Re: Sanoviv clinic in Mexico

[Guest guest]

The method seems crude overall. I saw a NOVA program once where they

were injecting things with a needle into a woman's eye. There was some

improvement but it did not take her all the way. It was touted as the

next medical breakthrough but I never heard anything about it later.

It seemed to me that the method was replicating classical homeopathy

without taking into account the mental and emotional states of the

individual (that drive the physical state). As long as a treatment

modality is not targeting the mental and emotional states, it can only

take you so far. I do agree that at times you do need to get to a

better physical state too but IMO I would rather suffer that, than

have yet another needle with unknown contents get into my bloodstream

yet again.

Gayatri (whose family has been badly burned by vaccines)

> >> >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > ooo Tami that is very familiar to me and not getting any

> > better here

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > just noticed they treat lyme at Sanoviv

> >>> > >

> >

http://www.sanoviv.com/index.php?option=com_content & task=view & id=10 & Itemid=13

> >

<http://www.sanoviv.com/index.php?option=com_content & amp;task=view & amp;id=10 & a

> > mp;Itemid=13>

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > this is what they say on treating autoimmunity, very

intriguinig:

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Autoimmune Disease

> >>> > >

> >>> > > " Autoimmune " disorders are so-called because the immune

system is

> > reacting

> >>> > > against the body's own cells. Depending on which organ is under

> > attack will

> >>> > > determine which disease is present or will develop (i.e. Thyroid

> > cells will

> >>> > > develop thyroiditis or Graves disease; compromised pancreatic

> > cells can create

> >>> > > diabetes; skin cells can lead to psoriasis; an auto-immune

> > response to myelin

> >>> > > in neuronal axons leads to multiple sclerosis, and so on).

> >>> > >

> >>> > > The conventional medical approach is focused on symptom

care. For

> > example if

> >>> > > you have rheumatoid arthritis, in a conventional setting you may

> > be given

> >>> > > non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, steroidal

anti-inflammatory

> > drugs

> >>> > > (prednisone) and sometimes chemotherapeutic drugs to

suppress your

> > immune

> >>> > > system from attacking your body. Our approach is to identify the

> > different

> >>> > > underlying factors that contribute to the development of the

> > illness and

> >>> > > address these, in addition to seeking natural non-toxic

treatment

> > as an

> >>> > > alternative to the drugs.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Research now shows that many of these illnesses are

developed and

> > influenced

> >>> > > by different genetic, lifestyle, environmental (toxicity from

> > environment) and

> >>> > > psychological factors. Knowing this we offer a holistic approach

> > to illness

> >>> > > and also focus on the detoxification process during your

course of

> > treatment

> >>> > > at Sanoviv. This is the core of our philosophy.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Your course of treatment will be based on the results of the

> > Complete Health

> >>> > > Assessment (CHA) which you will undergo as part of the

> > Comprehensive Medical

> >>> > > Program. All of the treatments we prescribe work together

> > synergistically. One

> >>> > > very important aspect of our treatment for autoimmune

disease is a

> > vaccine

> >>> > > which we produce from the patient's own blood. We isolate

the auto

> > antibodies

> >>> > > (antibodies that are abnormal and attack the patient's own

cells)

> > and put them

> >>> > > through different physical and temperature changes to turn them

> > into proteins

> >>> > > (antigens) and re-inject them into the patient over a period of

> > weeks to

> >>> > > months. This vaccine makes these auto antibodies decrease or

> > disappear from

> >>> > > the blood after a few months.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > All of our treatment protocols are highly individualized and

> > depend on your

> >>> > > specific health assessment. In other words two people can

have the

> > same

> >>> > > illness and yet they may receive different treatment.

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Ooops...you guys just got a sneak peek into how my brain is

> >>> > > overloaded....Pramila said she was going to a clinic in

> > mexico...Natasa posts

> >>> > > about a clinic in mexico, must be the same one...DUH..as if

there

> > weren't many

> >>> > > in mexico. Sorry about that.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Pramila...just sending a reminder to fax me your paperwork for

> > June. Thanks!!

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Tami

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > In a message dated 12/29/08 14:32:07 Pacific Standard Time,

> >>> > > pramila_s@ writes:

> >>>> > >> Not this one Tami. I go to mexico to Dr Aguilar's clinic.

Thats in

> >>>> > >> Guadalajara and he does

> >>>> > >> fibroblast growth factor and other protein based therapies to

> > stimulate nerve

> >>>> > >> growth. He also does a great EEG assessment of how different

> > parts of the

> >>>> > >> brain are communicating.

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> I also go to Denver to 1sthealthcenters.com (Thats Dr

Melamed's

> > clinic) for

> >>>> > >> IVIG and other

> >>>> > >> immune workups.

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> So this is new to me.

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> Pramila

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> From: TamiDuncan <Tamiduncan@>

> >>>> > >> To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

> >>>> <mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism%40yahoogroups.com>

> >>>> > >> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 1:50:26 PM

> >>>> > >> Subject: Re: Sanoviv

clinic

> > in Mexico

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> I think Pramila goes there but not totally sure, maybe she can

> > comment.

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >> In a message dated 12/29/08 13:49:27 Pacific Standard Time,

> >>>> > >> nenodalmaholidays (DOT) co.uk writes:

> >>>>> > >>> There was a thread on this clinic a while ago on another

board,

> > it is one of

> >>>>> > >>> the few ­ or possibly the only?? - clinic that specifically

> > tests for

> >>>>> > >>> autoimmune pathology in chronic diseases and designs

specific

> > treatments

> >>>>> > >>> according to test results (amongst other tests and treatment

> > options there,

> >>>>> > >>> which include detox etc), but at that time only one adult on

> > that list had

> >>>>> > >>> visited them. Does anyone here have any experience or

has heard

> > testimonies

> >>>>> > >>> on this place?

> >>>>> > >>>

> >>>>> > >>> http://www.sanoviv. com/ <http://www.sanoviv.com/>

> >>>>> > >>>

> >>>>> > >>> Natasa

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >>

> >>>> > >>

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

This struck me as a bit odd too. The doctor I used to work for had

her patients's blood go through a the process to make it a homeopathic

remedy. Same end result I'm assuming but no danger involved.

I've made a bladder infection remedy out of urine. Works great and by

the end of it there's not a drop of actual urine in it. The body

contains all the information it needs to heal.

Sharon Hoehner

www.sharethecause.com/detoxqueen

>

> This concept of an individual's individual " vaccine " is what finding

> the simillimum in classical homeopathy is all about. Except I think

> classical homeopathy is more sophisticated. To me this adaptation of

> it seems very scary. JMHO.

>

> Gayatri

>

[Guest guest]

Test yourself to see which dilution works for you. Muscle test - but

make sure your regulation is open first.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ooo Tami that is very familiar to me and not getting any

> > > better here

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > just noticed they treat lyme at Sanoviv

> > > > >

> > > http://www.sanoviv.com/index.php?

> > option=com_content & task=view & id=10 & Itemid=13

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > this is what they say on treating autoimmunity, very

> > intriguinig:

> > > > >

> > > > > Autoimmune Disease

> > > > >

> > > > > " Autoimmune " disorders are so-called because the immune

system

> > is

> > > reacting

> > > > > against the body's own cells. Depending on which organ is

under

> > > attack will

> > > > > determine which disease is present or will develop (i.e.

> > Thyroid

> > > cells will

> > > > > develop thyroiditis or Graves disease; compromised

pancreatic

> > > cells can create

> > > > > diabetes; skin cells can lead to psoriasis; an auto-immune

> > > response to myelin

> > > > > in neuronal axons leads to multiple sclerosis, and so on).

> > > > >

> > > > > The conventional medical approach is focused on symptom

care.

> > For

> > > example if

> > > > > you have rheumatoid arthritis, in a conventional setting

you

> > may

> > > be given

> > > > > non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, steroidal anti-

> > inflammatory

> > > drugs

> > > > > (prednisone) and sometimes chemotherapeutic drugs to

suppress

> > your

> > > immune

> > > > > system from attacking your body. Our approach is to

identify

> > the

> > > different

> > > > > underlying factors that contribute to the development of the

> > > illness and

> > > > > address these, in addition to seeking natural non-toxic

> > treatment

> > > as an

> > > > > alternative to the drugs.

> > > > >

> > > > > Research now shows that many of these illnesses are

developed

> > and

> > > influenced

> > > > > by different genetic, lifestyle, environmental (toxicity

from

> > > environment) and

> > > > > psychological factors. Knowing this we offer a holistic

> > approach

> > > to illness

> > > > > and also focus on the detoxification process during your

> > course of

> > > treatment

> > > > > at Sanoviv. This is the core of our philosophy.

> > > > >

> > > > > Your course of treatment will be based on the results of the

> > > Complete Health

> > > > > Assessment (CHA) which you will undergo as part of the

> > > Comprehensive Medical

> > > > > Program. All of the treatments we prescribe work together

> > > synergistically. One

> > > > > very important aspect of our treatment for autoimmune

disease

> > is a

> > > vaccine

> > > > > which we produce from the patient's own blood. We isolate

the

> > auto

> > > antibodies

> > > > > (antibodies that are abnormal and attack the patient's own

> > cells)

> > > and put them

> > > > > through different physical and temperature changes to turn

them

> > > into proteins

> > > > > (antigens) and re-inject them into the patient over a

period of

> > > weeks to

> > > > > months. This vaccine makes these auto antibodies decrease or

> > > disappear from

> > > > > the blood after a few months.

> > > > >

> > > > > All of our treatment protocols are highly individualized and

> > > depend on your

> > > > > specific health assessment. In other words two people can

have

> > the

> > > same

> > > > > illness and yet they may receive different treatment.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Ooops...you guys just got a sneak peek into how my brain is

> > > > > overloaded....Pramila said she was going to a clinic in

> > > mexico...Natasa posts

> > > > > about a clinic in mexico, must be the same one...DUH..as if

> > there

> > > weren't many

> > > > > in mexico. Sorry about that.

> > > > >

> > > > > Pramila...just sending a reminder to fax me your paperwork

for

> > > June. Thanks!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Tami

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > In a message dated 12/29/08 14:32:07 Pacific Standard Time,

> > > > > pramila_s@ writes:

> > > > >> Not this one Tami. I go to mexico to Dr Aguilar's clinic.

> > Thats in

> > > > >> Guadalajara and he does

> > > > >> fibroblast growth factor and other protein based therapies

to

> > > stimulate nerve

> > > > >> growth. He also does a great EEG assessment of how

different

> > > parts of the

> > > > >> brain are communicating.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> I also go to Denver to 1sthealthcenters.com (Thats Dr

> > Melamed's

> > > clinic) for

> > > > >> IVIG and other

> > > > >> immune workups.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> So this is new to me.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Pramila

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >> From: TamiDuncan <Tamiduncan@>

> > > > >> To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

> > > > >> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 1:50:26 PM

> > > > >> Subject: Re: Sanoviv

> > clinic

> > > in Mexico

> > > > >>

> > > > >> I think Pramila goes there but not totally sure, maybe she

can

> > > comment.

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >> In a message dated 12/29/08 13:49:27 Pacific Standard Time,

> > > > >> nenodalmaholidays (DOT) co.uk writes:

> > > > >>> There was a thread on this clinic a while ago on another

> > board,

> > > it is one of

> > > > >>> the few ­ or possibly the only?? - clinic that specifically

> > > tests for

> > > > >>> autoimmune pathology in chronic diseases and designs

specific

> > > treatments

> > > > >>> according to test results (amongst other tests and

treatment

> > > options there,

> > > > >>> which include detox etc), but at that time only one adult

on

> > > that list had

> > > > >>> visited them. Does anyone here have any experience or has

> > heard

> > > testimonies

> > > > >>> on this place?

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> http://www.sanoviv. com/ <http://www.sanoviv.com/>

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> Natasa

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>