RE: Study: Gum disease and general health link

[Guest guest]

What about brushing teeth?

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From: Kroyer

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Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:05 PM

Subject: Study: Gum disease and general health link

I ran across a health headline today that I thought would be of interest to

many on this list. The study found that the bacterial populations of the

gums are capable of releasing endotoxins into the bloodstream. This release

of toxins increases if the gums are disturbed. For the purposes of the

study, they used chewing gum to disturb the gums of the participants.

I thought this was interesting for a couple of reasons: the link between

oral health and general health, and a possible indictment of gum chewing as

an unhealthy activity.

Here's the link to the article:

http://dailynews./h/nm/20020207/hl/gums_1.html

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Name: Kroyer

Phone: 651-637-3260

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[Guest guest]

I suspect it's less important to avoid disturbing your gums than it is to

reduce the baceria being harbored in your gums.

-----Original Message-----

From: a Augustine [mailto:professionalmommy@...]

Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: Study: Gum disease and general health

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What about brushing teeth?

Grace,

a Augustine

I wish you enough sun to keep your attitude bright.

I wish you enough rain to appreciate the sun more.

I wish you enough happiness to keep your spirit alive.

I wish you enough pain so that the smallest joys in life appear much bigger.

I wish you enough gain to satisfy your wanting.

I wish you enough loss to appreciate all that you possess.

I wish you enough ''Hello's " to get you through the final goodbye.

--anonymous

----- Original Message -----

From: Kroyer

' '

Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:05 PM

Subject: Study: Gum disease and general health link

I ran across a health headline today that I thought would be of interest

to

many on this list. The study found that the bacterial populations of the

gums are capable of releasing endotoxins into the bloodstream. This

release

of toxins increases if the gums are disturbed. For the purposes of the

study, they used chewing gum to disturb the gums of the participants.

I thought this was interesting for a couple of reasons: the link between

oral health and general health, and a possible indictment of gum chewing

as

an unhealthy activity.

Here's the link to the article:

http://dailynews./h/nm/20020207/hl/gums_1.html

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Name: Kroyer

Phone: 651-637-3260

Email: skroyer@...

[Guest guest]

>and a possible indictment of gum chewing as

>an unhealthy activity.

I wish gum chewing were healthy, but there are other reasons it's not too

-- it stimulates digestive juices and processes when there's nothing to digest.

I don't know how much weight to put on the bacteria angle, though -- I

mean, I'd imagine you'd get the same effect from eating, right? Though

maybe you just get lots more of it from chewing gum too.

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[Guest guest]

> I don't know how much weight to put on the bacteria angle, though -- I

> mean, I'd imagine you'd get the same effect from eating, right? Though

> maybe you just get lots more of it from chewing gum too.

No, you're absolutely correct about chewing gum vs food. The study wasn't

actually about the chewing gum. They were attempting to show that the

toxins produced in the mouth can make their way into the bloodstream.

Showing that they could do so is a new thing. It's long been suspected, but

it hadn't been shown experimentally until now. Chewing gum was just one of

the many potential methods they could have used to stimulate the subjects'

gums.

The underlying issue from a Weston Price/NT standpoint, I think, is that a

properly nourished body does a much better job at fending off the bacteria

that take up residence in our mouths. Someone consuming a proper diet that

supposedly confers near immunity to dental disease probably just isn't going

to have the same level of bacterial invasion in their gums.

It also suggests that some of the theories that Price had about chronic

infections related to dental work may start getting closer to mainstream

acceptance. If it can be shown that basic gum disease can exacerbate or

trigger inflammation by leaking toxins into the bloodstream, is it really

such a stretch to believe that various other dental problems can do much

worse things via similar mechanisms?

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

>>They were attempting to show that the

toxins produced in the mouth can make their way into the bloodstream. Showing

that they could do so is a new thing.<<

I'm not sure if this is exactly the same thing you're describing, but the fact

that bacteria from the mouth can cause systemic infection, is well accepted in

mainstream dentistry and medicine. That's why people who have heart murmurs or

leaky valves are given antibiotics before dental procedures that cause bleeding.

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[Guest guest]

I don't think this is quite the same thing. The difference is that in this

study, it wasn't the bacteria itself that entered the bloodstream, it was

the toxins produced by the bacteria. So a doctor looking for a systemic

infection to explain a particular systemic disease state wouldn't find

evidence of a systemic infection.

-----Original Message-----

From: [mailto:R@...]

Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:03 PM

Subject: Re: Study: Gum disease and general health

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Hi ,

>>They were attempting to show that the

toxins produced in the mouth can make their way into the bloodstream.

Showing that they could do so is a new thing.<<

I'm not sure if this is exactly the same thing you're describing, but the

fact that bacteria from the mouth can cause systemic infection, is well

accepted in mainstream dentistry and medicine. That's why people who have

heart murmurs or leaky valves are given antibiotics before dental procedures

that cause bleeding.

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[Guest guest]

>It also suggests that some of the theories that Price had about chronic

>infections related to dental work may start getting closer to mainstream

>acceptance.

I don't know about that. My girlfriend has a bunch of old root canals and

is heading for more when she can afford them. I told her about the

alternative view -- fostered by Price's landmark view -- and lickety-split

she found out that he'd long since been thoroughly " discredited " . The root

canal industry and the rest of mainstream dentistry is *not* going to take

it sitting down.

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[Guest guest]

My own experience re: tooth/gum health:

I'm really lucky - I have one " cavity " which is really just a little bit of

decay on the outside of one of my teeth in back. No filling.

But the one thing I have noticed since I've been eating NT is I now have no

plaque, which was a big problem for me. I used to have really horrible cleaning

experiences (I can't stand the scraping) but now I don't even need the

cleanings.

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From: Idol

Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:40 PM

Subject: RE: Study: Gum disease and general health link

>It also suggests that some of the theories that Price had about chronic

>infections related to dental work may start getting closer to mainstream

>acceptance.

I don't know about that. My girlfriend has a bunch of old root canals and

is heading for more when she can afford them. I told her about the

alternative view -- fostered by Price's landmark view -- and lickety-split

she found out that he'd long since been thoroughly " discredited " . The root

canal industry and the rest of mainstream dentistry is *not* going to take

it sitting down.

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