Re: Stimmy, Stimmy, Stimmy

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen,usually undigested food in the gut causes the yeast over

growth. The yeast feed on the undigested food. The best way to bring

yeast under control is by eating smaller meals,splitting

meals,juicing and drinking fresh raw juices and eating raw

foods,fuits and veggies to increase enzymes. Cooking or heat destroys

the natural enzymes occuring in foods. You may need to have a

digestive enzyme supplement. Check with your nutritionist or health

food store. Clostridia lives in the large bowel. Most young children

have it present in their large bowel without problems. Certain

bacterias in the bowel keep it in check. If your son was on an

antibiotic it may upset the colistridia. Sometimes stopping the

antibiotic helps the balance return. There is a couple of differant

antibiotics for treating colstridia. You should ask your Dr. about

trying a differant one. Starting and stopping antibiotics is never a

good idea. Fever,gas,bloating and diarreah with adominal pain are

possible symptoms of clostridia. Its contagious nature makes it easy

for others and self to transfer it back and forth and get reinfected.

I would have it followed closely,especially because of the

involvement of the colon. Have you tried a sensory diet to help

modify some of the stimming behaviors? Gut issues can be painful or

uncomfortable. It may be he is stimming more because of how he feels.

Papaya fruit has an enzyme{papain} that is known to support digestion

and help reduce drooling spit. Digestive enzymes will help with the

gut/yeast.

It may take a week or more to notice a differance in your sons

stimming after dietary changes if its related to yeast/digestion

issues. keep a little diet journal and note his behaviors. Be

patient,most of our kids need to stim for neuro sensory control. My

son always had a tapping stim while he was small. Sometimes they self

regulate sensory input and balance by stimming. When they have such a

short attention span redirecting them is a challenge. Hang in there!

You are such an aware Mom. When he gets a comfey tummy it should make

a differance. It sounds like some of his stimming is related to how

he feels inside.

Best wishes,

Tishanne

>

> My son is generally happy, but he is constantly stimmy, tapping on

> everything, putting everyting in the mouth, spitting and playing

with

> his saliva. He can not focus and pay attention to learning tasks

due

> to his frequent stims.

>

> His recent urine organic test shows that he has a mild yeast

> overgrowth (arabinose 52.45 with reference 0 - 47) and he had a

> clostridia infection(HPHPA 495.55 with reference 0 - 150). He took

> vancomycin and diflucon for about 4 days that has made him very

> miserable, moody, extra stimmy and crazy. I stopped the medications

> and he is happy again. He is now taking lots of probiotics, caprylic

> acid, and olive leaf extract.

>

> We also tried low dose concerta for two weeks. He was more calm and

> less stimmy. However, it triggerred his stuttering and less appetite

> and we had to stop the medication.

>

> What's going on in his little body? How can I help him

biomedically,

> medically, behavioraly, and educationally? Any ideas are greatly

> appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Jen

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tishanne, Thanks for your time and ideas. My son had been on GF/CF

diet for four years and we have recently introduced gluten. He has

been very stimmy even on diet. He has also taken enzymes and lots of

probiotics. I am at the wit's end.

Thanks for sharing,

Jen

>

> Hi Jen,usually undigested food in the gut causes the yeast over

> growth. The yeast feed on the undigested food. The best way to

bring

> yeast under control is by eating smaller meals,splitting

> meals,juicing and drinking fresh raw juices and eating raw

> foods,fuits and veggies to increase enzymes. Cooking or heat

destroys

> the natural enzymes occuring in foods. You may need to have a

> digestive enzyme supplement. Check with your nutritionist or health

> food store. Clostridia lives in the large bowel. Most young

children

> have it present in their large bowel without problems. Certain

> bacterias in the bowel keep it in check. If your son was on an

> antibiotic it may upset the colistridia. Sometimes stopping the

> antibiotic helps the balance return. There is a couple of differant

> antibiotics for treating colstridia. You should ask your Dr. about

> trying a differant one. Starting and stopping antibiotics is never

a

> good idea. Fever,gas,bloating and diarreah with adominal pain are

> possible symptoms of clostridia. Its contagious nature makes it

easy

> for others and self to transfer it back and forth and get

reinfected.

> I would have it followed closely,especially because of the

> involvement of the colon. Have you tried a sensory diet to help

> modify some of the stimming behaviors? Gut issues can be painful or

> uncomfortable. It may be he is stimming more because of how he

feels.

> Papaya fruit has an enzyme{papain} that is known to support

digestion

> and help reduce drooling spit. Digestive enzymes will help with

the

> gut/yeast.

> It may take a week or more to notice a differance in your sons

> stimming after dietary changes if its related to yeast/digestion

> issues. keep a little diet journal and note his behaviors. Be

> patient,most of our kids need to stim for neuro sensory control. My

> son always had a tapping stim while he was small. Sometimes they

self

> regulate sensory input and balance by stimming. When they have such

a

> short attention span redirecting them is a challenge. Hang in

there!

> You are such an aware Mom. When he gets a comfey tummy it should

make

> a differance. It sounds like some of his stimming is related to how

> he feels inside.

> Best wishes,

> Tishanne

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen,have you tried redirecting him with one of his favorite

things? Even if his attention span is short you might be able to

engage him with sight or sound. Tapping might be a sound sensory

issue and his mouth an oral sensory stim. Have you tried any similar

toys like drum tapping toys or sound machines? I would try some play

time fun that is close action to his stim behaviors. Maybe playing in

edible jello or edible finger paint pudding or yogurt and let him eat

with his fingers and dabble,mine loved half frozen gogurt sticks. Put

a plastic table cover down beneath his chair for easier cleanup. Even

if you get a minute of change,thats progress. How old is your son? I

know this sounds crazy and messy,lol but sometimes it works. Spitting

seems to be a very common experience in this groups posts. If he is

old enough you might give him an acceptable place to spit or a

container. Sometimes spitting stays with them,ughh.

Best wishes,

Tishanne

-- In AutismBehaviorProblems ,

" cxu2002 " wrote:

>

> My son is generally happy, but he is constantly stimmy, tapping on

> everything, putting everyting in the mouth, spitting and playing

with

> his saliva. He can not focus and pay attention to learning tasks

due

> to his frequent stims.

>

> His recent urine organic test shows that he has a mild yeast

> overgrowth (arabinose 52.45 with reference 0 - 47) and he had a

> clostridia infection(HPHPA 495.55 with reference 0 - 150). He took

> vancomycin and diflucon for about 4 days that has made him very

> miserable, moody, extra stimmy and crazy. I stopped the medications

> and he is happy again. He is now taking lots of probiotics, caprylic

> acid, and olive leaf extract.

>

> We also tried low dose concerta for two weeks. He was more calm and

> less stimmy. However, it triggerred his stuttering and less appetite

> and we had to stop the medication.

>

> What's going on in his little body? How can I help him

biomedically,

> medically, behavioraly, and educationally? Any ideas are greatly

> appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Jen

>