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Tishanne -- the below idea about the punching bag is a great idea...just one thought about stimming (your other email)...my 23 month baby, bites his right hand, HARD....he does this only when excited...he has visual stimming when bored, nervous, tired, etc. Now that we are going sensory integration stuff with him, he does ALL of that less. So much less that the little callouses on his hand are not as bad...nor are there as many broken capillary veins.

We do lots of deep pressure...spinning, we are beginning brushing therapy. We do lots of "tug of war" with him....the punching bag will be a great idea for my little man someday too, as it is not only a punching thing but a deep pressure pushing thing....'s sensory "diet" is as follows (right now it is informal until the OT get the other one to me...but this is the jest (I know you child is older, bigger, and may be on a different part of the spectrum then mine, but I'm throwing it out just in case

We spin first on a spinning board. It is one he lies on....we spin gently, and rotate from clockwise to counter clock wise (it's called vestibular, but you can do too much of this, so you need to be careful).....we do this for about 5 minutes.

Then we immediately do some deep pressure to get him "grounded" again. (we do deep hugs, or roll a big exercise ball on him for pressure...he cracks up)

Then we do some trampoline jumping

Then we end with another type of deep pressure.....holding hands while singing row row row your boat....I'm pulling him/him me.

End with more hugs, and squeezes.

He is calm for a couple of hours with this...and if not we'll do it again right before I see the signs.

I know that each child is different....some don't like to swing or spin. So check with your OT, and or pediatrician. However, I do think that a good diet would be good for your son too...as well as Omega 3.

You probably have done all this, but I thought I would pass it along

God love you tishanne...you work so hard with all this.

e

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Thank you ...did you have growing pains at 23 months? This is interesting...I will watch for that. Our son's OT is going to introduce me to the brushing therapy....and she has also mentioned listening therapy. I'm always a little reluctant to try something when I don't know anyone else who has.......I love what you say about the bond...YES we are finding that the more we do with him, that is hand's on...like sensory stuff. It does bond. It is a very special time...a time of almost constant engagement...and then to see him for a couple of hours afterwords, it's amazing.

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Tishanne I can relate so well! is the experimental type too! How old is your son again? is only 5! StacieSent via BlackBerry by AT&TDate: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:51:42 -0000To: <AutismBehaviorProblems >Subject: Re: Life on the bridge Hi ,a punching dummie with lights is a great idea. Punching,kicking the couch is something I offered him. He seems to gravitate to the loudest things,like the pantry closet doors,doors and walls ect. I had a big scare from him last evening. He was in the pantry closet holding a fork on the white of his open eye,I bumped him nearly pushing it further into his eye,I didnt know he was in there, let alone with a fork. He likes to hide and not answer. He puts things in his throat/mouth,ears. He tries jabbing things into his body. Its a never ending battle for safety checks and monitoring his every action. I caught him about to drink laundry soap. I read about a sub-type of autism thats the expermenting type and is dangerous to their self and families in compulsions. The description fit him in almost everyway. I am very worried. He sneaks out. He got my car started a couple weeks ago and was blarring the horn and pressing the gas full throttle. Thank god I had the emergency brake pulled tight and he never got in gear. When I made it into the car he quit the horn and attacked me instead. I got bit really bad,hit and kicked while I was pinning him. I keep checking the car locks,hiding keys ect. I feel so sad as his mom learning to and pinning him but sometimes I have to. Keeping my other children on high alert is so hard on them. I asked our social worker about the domestic violence needs of my other children. Its not considered DV when there is autism involved. This basically started last December,the SIB and aggression. Its taken a huge toll on my family and goes against all my years of teaching them non-violence. Its being a hypocrite that I have a hard time with. I have so many concerns for him if this behavior continues. Best wishes, Tishanne -- In AutismBehaviorProblems , " Fitzgerald " wrote: > > Hi Tishanne, > > A thought occurs..have you ever tried to redirect his violence to > something that is meant for such things...a punching bag..sounds like > a heavy bag is probably about right. > > Maybe one of those punching dummies that light up when you hit it to > redirect his attention? > > I didn't pick up on how old he is. > > Our son, age 11, is GFCF, no processed sugar, we even keep the red > apples down as they have a higher sugar content then that of others. > As a result he is very healthy, so we are fortunate that the > aggressive behavior doesn't take the form of hitting or truly SIB > (Self-Injurious Behavior..for those of you that don't know) > > That being said ya never know whats around that puberty > corner..especially with boys. One of our major concerns is the > recent increase in attention to his privates and the subsequent > interest in watching the girls run at school..as I have been informed > today appears to be a recent interest of his. 8-) > > He has attempted to get attention by slapping his head with his > hand..but we were able to get it under control pretty quickly, and he > never did any actual tissue damage. > > The recommendation that I make about redirecting the attack is more > from my own experience of being a frustrated youth at some point in > my life and would generally try to find something inanimate to hit > when the levels went too high. Actually I have had to think in those > terms again due to our recent battles with the local school > district...but that is a novel for another time. > > Is there anything at all that he has such a fascination with that you > can leverage it to your advantage? > It sounds like you have removed some meds from the equation, and > since I have limited experience with meds for the purpose of > decreasing aggression I dont have much to offer there. > > On a final note, I know you love him, but remember to ensure that you > and your daughter are safe if he is able to do you harm. If for no > other reason than the fact that you won't be able to help him if your > laid up from an injury. > In our case I am large enough to be able to restrain our son if it > were necessary..well maybe for another year or so, but restraint > isn't the answer anyway in my view..at least as it relates to our son. > > From your writing it sounds like your doing better than many would > given the same situation. > > Take care > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,I am at my wits end. My son has been in his meltdowns all > day. > > > He > > > > just fell asleep with his best mood of the day,eve and night. > My > > > > other children finally came upstairs to reheat pizza and get > ice > > > > cream from the half hiding safety of their rooms. I am really > > > losing > > > > my ability to reach my son. Words,talking are bothering him. He > > is > > > > overly concerned with what or what nots of family life. He gets > > > angry > > > > at every little thing anyone else is doing or not doing > according > > > to > > > > his notions. Its like he wants to have an orchestrated family > > life > > > > and us to be paper dolls he can put in certain places. I was > able > > > to > > > > redirect him twice today and he was calm for about half an hour > > > then > > > > went right back to hyper irritated. He fainted once. Hes been > > doing > > > > that. From what the Dr.s say is adreneline dumping causing him > to > > > > hyperventilate and faint in his anger. He is so stuck in his > > > thought > > > > patterns,angry ones. He can't even play because everything has > to > > > be > > > > just right. No one can be close to him or talk to him although > he > > > can > > > > yell,cry or babble and be close to us. I offered him some > things > > he > > > > could destroy,like pizza box's and paper. I've tried it all > > today. > > > He > > > > did really pound,punch and tear them up. He has been pounding > on > > > > walls,doors,cupboards. Kicking at things and head banging. My > > > husband > > > > says we are hostage in our own home,in a sad way he's right. No > > one > > > > can relax or drop their guard. Our house is in the shambles,no > > > > vaccuum sounds could be tolerated today. It really brings us > all > > > into > > > > dysfunction. Its sad but it does help if no one else interacts > > with > > > > him save for me or just one of us,usually me. I feel like we > need > > > two > > > > houses so my family can go eat pizza and hang out. My 14 year > old > > > > said " Mom,I am reading a book about autism " with a hopeful > smile. > > > She > > > > puts a small couch against her bedroom door. A door we fixed a > > few > > > > times because my son charged it down when she was his target. > > He's > > > a > > > > bull in the china shop. Sometimes he looks at us and just sees > > red. > > > > I'm building a bridge with the intent of getting > closer,connected > > > and > > > > it feels like he's on an island thats floating away, just out > of > > my > > > > reach. I just keep building and this span of bridge is our life > > > span. > > > > We live on the bridge now and look back at the land ever hoping > > to > > > > visit the island. Where's a good troll when you need one? LOL. > > All > > > > you parents and families going through this know the troll got > > out > > > of > > > > dodge. > > > > Still building, > > > > Tishanne > > > > > > > > > >

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Yay ! We share a birthday huh? Cool.

Stacie

Hi StacieWe share a birthday, although I'm sure I'm older.Sorry I haven't answered any of these threads, I just don't have anything else to add.> > > > >> > > > > Hi,I am at my wits end. My son has been in his meltdowns all > > day. > > > > He > > > > > just fell asleep with his best mood of the day,eve and night. > > My > > > > > other children finally came upstairs to reheat pizza and get > > ice > > > > > cream from the half hiding safety of their rooms. I am really > > > > losing > > > > > my ability to reach my son. Words,talking are bothering him. > He > > > is > > > > > overly concerned with what or what nots of family life. He > gets > > > > angry > > > > > at every little thing anyone else is doing or not doing > > according > > > > to > > > > > his notions. Its like he wants to have an orchestrated family > > > life > > > > > and us to be paper dolls he can put in certain places. I was > > able > > > > to > > > > > redirect him twice today and he was calm for about half an > hour > > > > then > > > > > went right back to hyper irritated. He fainted once. Hes been > > > doing > > > > > that. From what the Dr.s say is adreneline dumping causing > him > > to > > > > > hyperventilate and faint in his anger. He is so stuck in his > > > > thought > > > > > patterns,angry ones. He can't even play because everything > has > > to > > > > be > > > > > just right. No one can be close to him or talk to him > although > > he > > > > can > > > > > yell,cry or babble and be close to us. I offered him some > > things > > > he > > > > > could destroy,like pizza box's and paper. I've tried it all > > > today. > > > > He > > > > > did really pound,punch and tear them up. He has been pounding > > on > > > > > walls,doors,cupboards. Kicking at things and head banging. My > > > > husband > > > > > says we are hostage in our own home,in a sad way he's right. > No > > > one > > > > > can relax or drop their guard. Our house is in the > shambles,no > > > > > vaccuum sounds could be tolerated today. It really brings us > > all > > > > into > > > > > dysfunction. Its sad but it does help if no one else > interacts > > > with > > > > > him save for me or just one of us,usually me. I feel like we > > need > > > > two > > > > > houses so my family can go eat pizza and hang out. My 14 year > > old > > > > > said "Mom,I am reading a book about autism" with a hopeful > > smile. > > > > She > > > > > puts a small couch against her bedroom door. A door we fixed > a > > > few > > > > > times because my son charged it down when she was his target. > > > He's > > > > a > > > > > bull in the china shop. Sometimes he looks at us and just > sees > > > red. > > > > > I'm building a bridge with the intent of getting > > closer,connected > > > > and > > > > > it feels like he's on an island thats floating away, just out > > of > > > my > > > > > reach. I just keep building and this span of bridge is our > life > > > > span. > > > > > We live on the bridge now and look back at the land ever > hoping > > > to > > > > > visit the island. Where's a good troll when you need one? > LOL. > > > All > > > > > you parents and families going through this know the troll > got > > > out > > > > of > > > > > dodge.> > > > > Still building,> > > > > Tishanne> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators.