Re: Re: Resveratrol, Cat's Claw and Samento/ Gayatri

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Sal,

Just a quick note that Dr. Bradstreet mentioned at the recent Autism One conference, if you continually have zero Lactobacillus on your labs, this is a good indication for Clostridia infections, which are known to cause leaky gut syndrome, and it is difficult to be detected via Comprehensive Stool Analysis.

Gayatri, this is quick note for you, too. For sometime we have been wondering why our kiddos continually have zero Lactobacillus, regardless of the high-potent, multiple strains of Lactobacillus which we have been supplemented them with.

Limin

Re: Resveratrol, Cat's Claw and Samento

I see doctor who uses mostly herbs and nutraceuticals. I am wondering what natural substance would bring the bartonella out for the cumanda to kill.....or what other abx will bring it out???? Anyone know?? My digestive tract is so messed up (almost zero beneficial flora and I was taking Theralac and a few other probiotics while on abx and mepron... an broke out in fungus patches right when started that my doc at the time did not take serously). My dd is positive exposure to Bb... and food allergies, possible leaky gut, so we are working on that first as she is not clinical lyme disease. My husband sees an allopathic LLMD and is to start mycobutin and zith for bartonella. Also positive Bb bands... so I guess/hope this will address both.Regarding Schallers book: I already bought it and paid too much for it for it to be black and white and esp if there is a color version coming out! The book is mostly all pictures and I feel a little ripped off.. not that pictures are a bad thing at all, but there is little text and the pics are hard to see. I have time to send this back to amazon.. is a colored print version coming out?I am tying to focus on supporting my body nutritional (the whole family)and addressing possible candida and returning to foods that contain animal and other healthy fats... few to now sugars, grains unless soaked. I have to believe that the terrain is as important at least or more than killing the bugs.As for tests, I almost give up. I supposedly have the dreaded gene as per Shoemaker, but my docs past and present do not believe in CSM for some reason. I've been using chlorella, pinella, burbur, too many supplements to name, detox fiber every now and then and unless my digestive problems are from toxin pile up, I think I am clearing unless the biaxin did not kill of Bb.Sal>> Sal, i'm new to this world to due to all the inaccurate testing etc....but it looks like WE ALL GOT IT too. Â At labcorp, the plebologist introduced me to ...has been a homerun for this mom! Â I have ALL her labs (she's got the PILE--Shaller runs everything) including her Fry labs and Babesia in particular hides really well in the red blood cells. Â She takes Ketek to pull it out and cumanda to kill it....she's done a pile of these labs and the counts have been all over the place. Â She sees Shaller in FL.> > > > The funniest thing (or i thought it was funny) is she showed up at my door 20 minutes after chatting with on the phone at labcorp--10 minutes after that she'd dropped her pants...within 30 seconds we were both comparing batonella veins, warts, moles....yuck. Â Anyway, Shaller just released a new Bartonella book...can't wait to get it tomorrow...color version will be out in 2 weeks if i'm not mistaken---color might be the ticket as he's loaded the book with pictures.> > > > > What a mess this all is....thank god we have the internet and groups like this to sort through the wreckage....when i think of all the tests that my little fella and i have been through to rule out other fancy dx's it makes me MAD...one doc even suggested that i give my older fella (who's had yet another crummy test---how many crappy tests do they use for lymes?) another pneummacoccal vaccination---at that point i ran from every doc in network forever (except the GI--he's starting to get it....)Â > > > > > where do you live and who do you see?> > > > > lisa>

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Im wondering if probiotics even make it to the Gut .....can anyone shed light on this....I have a ton of intestibnal issues although they have improved with treatmnet I am still no symptom free here....

Sal,

Just a quick note that Dr. Bradstreet mentioned at the recent Autism One conference, if you continually have zero Lactobacillus on your labs, this is a good indication for Clostridia infections, which are known to cause leaky gut syndrome, and it is difficult to be detected via Comprehensive Stool Analysis.

Gayatri, this is quick note for you, too. For sometime we have been wondering why our kiddos continually have zero Lactobacillus, regardless of the high-potent, multiple strains of Lactobacillus which we have been supplemented them with.

Limin

Re: Resveratrol, Cat's Claw and Samento

I see doctor who uses mostly herbs and nutraceuticals. I am wondering what natural substance would bring the bartonella out for the cumanda to kill.....or what other abx will bring it out???? Anyone know?? My

digestive tract is so messed up (almost zero beneficial flora and I was taking Theralac and a few other probiotics while on abx and mepron... an broke out in fungus patches right when started that my doc at the time did not take serously). My dd is positive exposure to

Bb... and food allergies, possible leaky gut, so we are working on that first as she is not clinical lyme disease. My husband sees an allopathic LLMD and is to start mycobutin and zith for bartonella. Also positive Bb bands... so I guess/hope this will

address both.Regarding Schallers book: I already bought it and paid too much for it for it to be black and white and esp if there is a color version coming out! The book is mostly all pictures and I feel a little

ripped off.. not that pictures are a bad thing at all, but there is little text and the pics are hard to see. I have time to send this back to amazon.. is a colored print version coming out?I am tying to focus on supporting my body nutritional (the whole

family)and addressing possible candida and returning to foods that contain animal and other healthy fats... few to now sugars, grains unless soaked. I have to believe that the terrain is as important at least or more than killing the bugs.

As for tests, I almost give up. I supposedly have the dreaded gene as per Shoemaker, but my docs past and present do not believe in CSM for some reason. I've been using chlorella, pinella, burbur, too many

supplements to name, detox fiber every now and then and unless my digestive problems are from toxin pile up, I think I am clearing unless the biaxin did not kill of Bb.Sal>> Sal, i'm new to this world to due to all the inaccurate testing etc....but it looks like WE ALL GOT IT too. Â At labcorp, the plebologist introduced me to ...has been a homerun for this mom!

 I have ALL her labs (she's got the PILE--Shaller runs everything) including her Fry labs and Babesia in particular hides really well in the red blood cells.  She takes Ketek to pull it out and cumanda to

kill it....she's done a pile of these labs and the counts have been all over the place. Â She sees Shaller in FL.> > > > The funniest thing (or i thought it was funny) is she showed up at

my door 20 minutes after chatting with on the phone at labcorp--10 minutes after that she'd dropped her pants...within 30 seconds we were both comparing batonella veins, warts, moles....yuck. Â Anyway, Shaller just released a new Bartonella book...can't wait to get it

tomorrow...color version will be out in 2 weeks if i'm not mistaken---color might be the ticket as he's loaded the book with pictures.> > > > > What a mess this all is....thank god we have the internet and

groups like this to sort through the wreckage....when i think of all the tests that my little fella and i have been through to rule out other fancy dx's it makes me MAD...one doc even suggested that i give

my older fella (who's had yet another crummy test---how many crappy tests do they use for lymes?) another pneummacoccal vaccination---at that point i ran from every doc in network forever (except the GI--he's starting to get it....)Â

> > > > > where do you live and who do you see?> > > > > lisa>

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The company which makes Bio-K+ CL1285 claims that this probiotic product well survives the stomach acid, and 86% of people who takes it daily has fewer Clostridia infections.

http://www.retailing.org/new_site/documents/govaffairs/ERSP_Findings/bio-k_decision.doc

My son started taking a bottle daily, but we have not done any CSA to monitor. It contains 50 billion of live and active L. Acidophilus and L. Casei. It is however expensive - about $4.50 a bottle. My son is taking the GFCF version made from fermented soy.

Limin

Re: Resveratrol, Cat's Claw and Samento

I see doctor who uses mostly herbs and nutraceuticals. I am wondering what natural substance would bring the bartonella out for the cumanda to kill.....or what other abx will bring it out???? Anyone know?? My digestive tract is so messed up (almost zero beneficial flora and I was taking Theralac and a few other probiotics while on abx and mepron... an broke out in fungus patches right when started that my doc at the time did not take serously). My dd is positive exposure to Bb... and food allergies, possible leaky gut, so we are working on that first as she is not clinical lyme disease. My husband sees an allopathic LLMD and is to start mycobutin and zith for bartonella. Also positive Bb bands... so I guess/hope this will address both.Regarding Schallers book: I already bought it and paid too much for it for it to be black and white and esp if there is a color version coming out! The book is mostly all pictures and I feel a little ripped off.. not that pictures are a bad thing at all, but there is little text and the pics are hard to see. I have time to send this back to amazon.. is a colored print version coming out?I am tying to focus on supporting my body nutritional (the whole family)and addressing possible candida and returning to foods that contain animal and other healthy fats... few to now sugars, grains unless soaked. I have to believe that the terrain is as important at least or more than killing the bugs.As for tests, I almost give up. I supposedly have the dreaded gene as per Shoemaker, but my docs past and present do not believe in CSM for some reason. I've been using chlorella, pinella, burbur, too many supplements to name, detox fiber every now and then and unless my digestive problems are from toxin pile up, I think I am clearing unless the biaxin did not kill of Bb.Sal>> Sal, i'm new to this world to due to all the inaccurate testing etc....but it looks like WE ALL GOT IT too. Â At labcorp, the plebologist introduced me to ...has been a homerun for this mom! Â I have ALL her labs (she's got the PILE--Shaller runs everything) including her Fry labs and Babesia in particular hides really well in the red blood cells. Â She takes Ketek to pull it out and cumanda to kill it....she's done a pile of these labs and the counts have been all over the place. Â She sees Shaller in FL.> > > > The funniest thing (or i thought it was funny) is she showed up at my door 20 minutes after chatting with on the phone at labcorp--10 minutes after that she'd dropped her pants...within 30 seconds we were both comparing batonella veins, warts, moles....yuck. Â Anyway, Shaller just released a new Bartonella book...can't wait to get it tomorrow...color version will be out in 2 weeks if i'm not mistaken---color might be the ticket as he's loaded the book with pictures.> > > > > What a mess this all is....thank god we have the internet and groups like this to sort through the wreckage....when i think of all the tests that my little fella and i have been through to rule out other fancy dx's it makes me MAD...one doc even suggested that i give my older fella (who's had yet another crummy test---how many crappy tests do they use for lymes?) another pneummacoccal vaccination---at that point i ran from every doc in network forever (except the GI--he's starting to get it....)Â > > > > > where do you live and who do you see?> > > > > lisa>