Massage

[Guest guest]

This is especially helpful if followed with a massage for parents as well!

Joan

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I thought this was cute, even though my daughter is not a toddler, I wish I

knew this back then. Maybe some other parents can give it a try. I took

this off a site I was surfing through on autism:

" Massage comes in many forms, including Swedish, Shiatsu (which resembles

acupressure in some ways), and more. It's relaxing and enjoyable, and one

study at the University of Miami School of Medicine's Touch Research

Institute showed that autistic toddlers who received a thirty-minute massage

two times a week for five weeks showed socialization and imitation

improvement by objective measures, as compared with a control group of

children who were held by a teacher while playing instead. "

Hope this helps someone, Becca

[Guest guest]

My son takes evening primrose oil. You can buy it in capsule or oil form.

But when I first started looking for it, I could only find the oil form.

His DAN! dr said massaging the oil on his skin would be okay. My son now

requests AND expects his massage every night before going to bed. It's an

enjoyable time for both of us. He told me he does not like it when Dad

gives him a massage! Dad wasn't too hurt by this! After the day we have

had today, I am looking forward to our massage time tonight (feeling a

little guilty as I think the PediaCare I gave him this morning did not agree

with him).

Pam Novak

Mother to -age 5 dx PDD

[ ] Massage

> I thought this was cute, even though my daughter is not a toddler, I wish

I

> knew this back then. Maybe some other parents can give it a try. I took

> this off a site I was surfing through on autism:

>

> " Massage comes in many forms, including Swedish, Shiatsu (which resembles

> acupressure in some ways), and more. It's relaxing and enjoyable, and one

> study at the University of Miami School of Medicine's Touch Research

> Institute showed that autistic toddlers who received a thirty-minute

massage

> two times a week for five weeks showed socialization and imitation

> improvement by objective measures, as compared with a control group of

> children who were held by a teacher while playing instead. "

> Hope this helps someone, Becca

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Pam:

If I may ask, where do you focus massage? My daughter's neck and shoulders are

very tight. Do you also work on arms and legs, feet, hands? Have you had any

training in massage? This sounds like a neat idea, very soothing at the end of

a day, so any suggestions or further information would be helpful.

Thanks.

Joan

[ ] Massage

> I thought this was cute, even though my daughter is not a toddler, I wish

I

> knew this back then. Maybe some other parents can give it a try. I took

> this off a site I was surfing through on autism:

>

> " Massage comes in many forms, including Swedish, Shiatsu (which resembles

> acupressure in some ways), and more. It's relaxing and enjoyable, and one

> study at the University of Miami School of Medicine's Touch Research

> Institute showed that autistic toddlers who received a thirty-minute

massage

> two times a week for five weeks showed socialization and imitation

> improvement by objective measures, as compared with a control group of

> children who were held by a teacher while playing instead. "

> Hope this helps someone, Becca

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Pam:

>

> If I may ask, where do you focus massage? My daughter's neck and

shoulders are very tight. Do you also work on arms and legs, feet, hands?

Have you had any training in massage? This sounds like a neat idea, very

soothing at the end of a day, so any suggestions or further information

would be helpful.

>

> Thanks.

> Joan

Joan,

I massage the oil on his back, neck, and shoulders. My son was very tight

in his neck. Actually, I take him to the chiropractor once a month and I

think this has helped him with relieving the pressure in his neck. My

chiropractor is in practice with his father. The father has had training in

Cranial Sacral (sp?) Therapy. My goal is to work up to that. But we are

still in the process of getting used to the chiropractic

adjustment--at first he was sacred of the table (it moves and makes noise)

but now he hopes on without a fuss(it took about 3 months to get him to use

the table). He now knows that if he does what he is suppose to, he will get

a sucker.

I don't have any massage training but I watch very closely what the

chiropractor does to him. One thing he does is apply gentle pressure to the

muscles in his neck so I try to do that.

His DAN! dr recommends 1/2 teaspoon of evening primrose oil so that is how

much oil I use. Sometimes I will tease my son and start to massage him

without the oil. He'll say, " Mom you need to use the oil! " . He will even

get the oil from the frig and bring it to me. So I know this is something

he really likes and looks forward to.

Thanks.

Pam

Mother to -age 5 dx PDD

[Guest guest]

I can not wait to get a massage once I heal up without the toxic

bags. I don't know about you guys but it was soooooo uncomfy laying

on the table with those things in. I always said that someone should

come up with a massage table that has 2 holes in it so the breast

implanted women would feel more comfy. They would smash down to the

point where it hurt! LOL!

>

> Sis,

>

> The best massage for fibromyalgia is a deep theraputic

> massage . . . It can be very painful, but only for a

> moment. Then pain that has been there for ages is

> gone.

>

> You will need to give the therapist permission to go

> as deeply as possible. For the first few massages you

> may want to take something for pain BEFORE you go!

>

> With deep massage, the facia - tissue covering the

> muscle - is stretched. It hurts like crazy, at least

> initially . . . but the relief is wonderful!

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

My massage therapist says she has to arrange pillows

just right for one long-time implantee who refuses to

admit her implants are causing her any health

problems. This woman was married to a doctor . . .

follows a very strict diet and exercise routine, but

looks like death warmed over!

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene,

I'm sure it's just age setting in. You know we're supposed to feel like

garbage as we get older!

Kenda

> My massage therapist says she has to arrange pillows

> just right for one long-time implantee who refuses to

> admit her implants are causing her any health

> problems. This woman was married to a doctor . . .

> follows a very strict diet and exercise routine, but

> looks like death warmed over!

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed

> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>

>

[Guest guest]

Rogene

I just wanted to point out that we are all different when it comes

to massage also. I do not respond well to deep massage and neither

does my sister. This was after several times over a period of weeks

where I just got in more and more pain. In fact, I have seen

various books on fibromyalgia recommending against rolfing and other

types of deeper massage. I also tried craniosacral therapy and

myofascial release for three months and just got worse and had to

quit when the therapist decided that it couldn't still be a herx.

So I just want people to be aware that while it may work for them,

it also might not. I have absolutely no idea why some react

positively to trying certain things and others don't. But I am very

happy that the massages work so well for you. I certainly think we

should all give it a try and see if it works for us too---because

you never know unless you try something!

Hugs, kathy

>

> Sis,

>

> The best massage for fibromyalgia is a deep theraputic

> massage . . . It can be very painful, but only for a

> moment. Then pain that has been there for ages is

> gone.

>

> You will need to give the therapist permission to go

> as deeply as possible. For the first few massages you

> may want to take something for pain BEFORE you go!

>

> With deep massage, the facia - tissue covering the

> muscle - is stretched. It hurts like crazy, at least

> initially . . . but the relief is wonderful!

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah, I guess that's another question I've got - is there a certain

amount of time I should wait before I have a massage? Just had the

explant on 11/7. I haven't been on my stomach yet, so I'm not sure

if I'm ready for that - however I can definitely relate to laying on

my stomach with the implants (I'm trying to think of suitable names

for my implants, perhaps Sodom and Gamora?).

Sis

>

> I can not wait to get a massage once I heal up without the toxic

> bags. I don't know about you guys but it was soooooo uncomfy

laying

> on the table with those things in. I always said that someone

should

> come up with a massage table that has 2 holes in it so the breast

> implanted women would feel more comfy. They would smash down to

the

> point where it hurt! LOL!

>

>

> --- In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...>

wrote:

> >

> > Sis,

> >

> > The best massage for fibromyalgia is a deep theraputic

> > massage . . . It can be very painful, but only for a

> > moment. Then pain that has been there for ages is

> > gone.

> >

> > You will need to give the therapist permission to go

> > as deeply as possible. For the first few massages you

> > may want to take something for pain BEFORE you go!

> >

> > With deep massage, the facia - tissue covering the

> > muscle - is stretched. It hurts like crazy, at least

> > initially . . . but the relief is wonderful!

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I agree, Patty. I had several deep tissue massages while I had fibro and

felt terrible following each one. I did notice that I felt better if I

drank tons of water to help flush out the toxins that had been released but

never felt a positive benefit from any of the massages. I now enjoy a deep

massage but it has only been since I have been well that I have tolerated

them and actually enjoy them.

Kenda

>

> Rogene

> I just wanted to point out that we are all different when it comes

> to massage also. I do not respond well to deep massage and neither

> does my sister. This was after several times over a period of weeks

> where I just got in more and more pain. In fact, I have seen

> various books on fibromyalgia recommending against rolfing and other

> types of deeper massage. I also tried craniosacral therapy and

> myofascial release for three months and just got worse and had to

> quit when the therapist decided that it couldn't still be a herx.

> So I just want people to be aware that while it may work for them,

> it also might not. I have absolutely no idea why some react

> positively to trying certain things and others don't. But I am very

> happy that the massages work so well for you. I certainly think we

> should all give it a try and see if it works for us too---because

> you never know unless you try something!

> Hugs, kathy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>>

>> Sis,

>>

>> The best massage for fibromyalgia is a deep theraputic

>> massage . . . It can be very painful, but only for a

>> moment. Then pain that has been there for ages is

>> gone.

>>

>> You will need to give the therapist permission to go

>> as deeply as possible. For the first few massages you

>> may want to take something for pain BEFORE you go!

>>

>> With deep massage, the facia - tissue covering the

>> muscle - is stretched. It hurts like crazy, at least

>> initially . . . but the relief is wonderful!

>>

>> Hugs,

>>

>> Rogene

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed

> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mine were named Tom and Jerry... troublemakers! LOL

> > >

> > > Sis,

> > >

> > > The best massage for fibromyalgia is a deep theraputic

> > > massage . . . It can be very painful, but only for a

> > > moment. Then pain that has been there for ages is

> > > gone.

> > >

> > > You will need to give the therapist permission to go

> > > as deeply as possible. For the first few massages you

> > > may want to take something for pain BEFORE you go!

> > >

> > > With deep massage, the facia - tissue covering the

> > > muscle - is stretched. It hurts like crazy, at least

> > > initially . . . but the relief is wonderful!

> > >

> > > Hugs,

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Oh Kathy,

I'm sorry you herx so badly to massages . . . I've had

a few herxes . . . but they don't last longer than a

day. . . . There are times when I've felt sooooooo

spacey following a massage . . . But when that's over,

I feel wonderful!

My introduction to massage was after having muscle

spasms in my back for months. Finally, when I went in

for a massage, the therapist voluntarily worked on me

for over two hours! . . . I could hear the tissue

breaking loose around my shoulder blades . . . It

sounded just like a zipper! . . .

It hurt like crazy. But, I didn't need physical

therapy, muscle relaxers or pain pills after that. If

I didn't feel guilty about it, I'd get a massage at

least once a week.

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Mine were called dumb and dumber. LOL, I would wait a while before

you lay on your tummy for a massage. Maybe you can get a massage

laying on your back and have them do your shoulders, arms,

legs...etc. until you feel more comfy. i tried to sleep on my tummy

the other night and it just didn't feel right and it has been a

month for me. I don't think I am ready yet...

> > >

> > > Sis,

> > >

> > > The best massage for fibromyalgia is a deep theraputic

> > > massage . . . It can be very painful, but only for a

> > > moment. Then pain that has been there for ages is

> > > gone.

> > >

> > > You will need to give the therapist permission to go

> > > as deeply as possible. For the first few massages you

> > > may want to take something for pain BEFORE you go!

> > >

> > > With deep massage, the facia - tissue covering the

> > > muscle - is stretched. It hurts like crazy, at least

> > > initially . . . but the relief is wonderful!

> > >

> > > Hugs,

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe I'll just ask for a facial this time - this place gives

facials that put me into another dimension - I forget what they

actually call it but there's a name for this zone you go into.

Sis

--- In , Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@c...>

wrote:

>

> I agree, Patty. I had several deep tissue massages while I had

fibro and

> felt terrible following each one. I did notice that I felt better

if I

> drank tons of water to help flush out the toxins that had been

released but

> never felt a positive benefit from any of the massages. I now

enjoy a deep

> massage but it has only been since I have been well that I have

tolerated

> them and actually enjoy them.

>

> Kenda

>

> >

> > Rogene

> > I just wanted to point out that we are all different when it

comes

> > to massage also. I do not respond well to deep massage and

neither

> > does my sister. This was after several times over a period of

weeks

> > where I just got in more and more pain. In fact, I have seen

> > various books on fibromyalgia recommending against rolfing and

other

> > types of deeper massage. I also tried craniosacral therapy and

> > myofascial release for three months and just got worse and had to

> > quit when the therapist decided that it couldn't still be a herx.

> > So I just want people to be aware that while it may work for

them,

> > it also might not. I have absolutely no idea why some react

> > positively to trying certain things and others don't. But I am

very

> > happy that the massages work so well for you. I certainly think

we

> > should all give it a try and see if it works for us too---because

> > you never know unless you try something!

> > Hugs, kathy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...>

wrote:

> >>

> >> Sis,

> >>

> >> The best massage for fibromyalgia is a deep theraputic

> >> massage . . . It can be very painful, but only for a

> >> moment. Then pain that has been there for ages is

> >> gone.

> >>

> >> You will need to give the therapist permission to go

> >> as deeply as possible. For the first few massages you

> >> may want to take something for pain BEFORE you go!

> >>

> >> With deep massage, the facia - tissue covering the

> >> muscle - is stretched. It hurts like crazy, at least

> >> initially . . . but the relief is wonderful!

> >>

> >> Hugs,

> >>

> >> Rogene

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

health care

> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> > http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hello Everyone!

I have been getting deep tissue massages, and I notice after them, my hands

are worse. Does anyone know of a good massage technique, that we should be

using?

Thank you for you help.

Kay ~ Seaside Oregon

[Guest guest]

Can I suggest something? If you are open to massages for detoxifying you should

try energy work. I have been getting Jin Shin for the last 4 years or so and it

has made a tremendous difference in the speed of recovery. It detoxifies by

getting all the bad stuff moving out of your body.

Also baths (salt or peroxide (which I use) helps alot.

Surella

>

> I was just wondering what results people have had with massage? I have been

studying it for a couple of months now and am so amazed at the way it effects

the entire body, not the least of which is by detoxifying it. I have issues

with toxins. I am wondering if anyone has employed either professional massages

or self-massages as a part of their healing process.

>

[Guest guest]

Diane,

That has been my experience with massage also. I've learned when (usually!) to

not have a massage either because of too much external exposure or my body can't

handle an increase in internal exposure.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

(fm my Blackberry)

[] Re: Massage

You have to be careful with massage if you do not detox well. I had a few

massages before I knew what I was ill from, and honestly they made me feel much

worse. The best massage that you can do is lymphatic as it helps the toxins to

leave the body. But, even with that, you have to take it slow and easy as you

will feel ill from it if you stir up more toxins than your body can rid itself

of. D

>

> I was just wondering what results people have had with massage? I have been

studying it for a couple of months now and am so amazed at the way it effects

the entire body, not the least of which is by detoxifying it. I have issues

with toxins. I am wondering if anyone has employed either professional massages

or self-massages as a part of their healing process.

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah acupuncture doesn't work for me either. However, sometimes the natural

stuff takes time. Having said that, the very first time I had Jin Shin therapy,

I went home exhausted and woke up the next day feeling almost normal. I felt

GREAT!. It was crazy but I knew it would work for me. It took a year to get me

back to functioning but every week was better and Jin Shin saved my life.

There is this amazing thing out there that saved me when I was sinking fast and

I wish everyone would research it and try it.

>

> I tried acupuncture but tit didn't do anything

>

>

> In a message dated 12/19/2010 12:04:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> surellabaer@... writes:

>

> Can I suggest something? If you are open to massages for detoxifying you

> should try energy work. I have been getting Jin Shin for the last 4 years or

> so and it has made a tremendous difference in the speed of recovery. It

> detoxifies by getting all the bad stuff moving out of your body.

> Also baths (salt or peroxide (which I use) helps alot.

> Surella

>

> -

>

[Guest guest]

I agree on this!! NEVER NEVER get a deep tissue massage, if you cannot detox

efficiently. Swedish massages have been fine ( for me) A massage and then a

colonic works well too. The colonics saved me at a time I was getting giant

hives every time I ate. They disappeared after two colonics.....

Kathi

>

> Diane,

>

> That has been my experience with massage also. I've learned when (usually!) to

not have a massage either because of too much external exposure or my body can't

handle an increase in internal exposure.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

> (fm my Blackberry)

>

>