Re: Samento versus Cat's Claw

[Guest guest]

Heidi,

Thank you for sharing your experience. I wish my tough-nut kid can herx

easier so to give me a sign whether things have worked for him or not. He

is on alternating Cumanda and Banderol 30 drops twice a day, and has never

herxed ever since we started these herbs last December. He also does not

develop rash on LDM-100 like some kids could. I started Raintree Cat's Claw

a couple days ago. His stools change from loose to very firm almost

constipated to well-shaped, firm to loose stools again. It seems to me his

gut is going through rollercoaster. But I am not sure if it is directly

related to Cat's Claw.

Limin

Samento versus Cat's Claw

> Well, this is an early opinion, but let me share anyhow. I was

> taking Rain-tree Cat's Claw, 3 capsules twice a day. A couple of

> days ago, I switched to Nutramdedix Samento to compare. The herxes

> from both feel exactly the same. I was no longer herxing on the

> Cat's Claw since I had gotten use to that dose. I did herx on the

> Nutramedix when I upped the drops to 16 twice a day. Thus, 16 drops

> of Samento is herxing me, whereas 3 capsules of Cat's Claw were no

> longer. If you look at how much each costs and all, and go by equal

> amounts of herxing for doseage, I will have to say that Nutramedix

> gives more herxing for the dollar. Thus, its cheaper. I don't think

> one is more effective than the next at this point, but do feel that

> the Samento is cheaper to use. The only problem with Samento is that

> it has to be given in water, which is how I take it, or directly into

> the mouth. I normally give my littlest ones their herbs in juice,

> thus, I will have to change things up a bit to get them to take

> Samento, especially since two of them refuse to drink water.

>

> Well, that's my early assessment. Now, I imagine if I were to buy

> the Rain-tree Cat's Claw in bulk and capsule it myself, it might be

> cheaper than the Samento. Boy this recovery stuff is a lot of work.

> I think for now I will continue with the Samento. The herx is

> weird. Its like I feel better and worse at the same time. Its not

> bad, I mostly feel tired. I have my Burbur ready for when I want to

> rid the herx symptoms.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Limin:

Yes, my stools are doing the same thing from the Cat's Claw/Samento.

The good thing about herbs like Cat's Claw is that they have

properties built in to keep herxing down, thus some don't herx on

it. My herxing is mild. I tend to herx horrendously. I can't even

take things like grape seed extract, coconut oil, or garlic because I

just plain can not tolerate the herxing. Thus, if I am getting a

mild herx, that means many others may not herx at all.

Heidi N

>

> Heidi,

>

> Thank you for sharing your experience. I wish my tough-nut kid can

herx

> easier so to give me a sign whether things have worked for him or

not. He

> is on alternating Cumanda and Banderol 30 drops twice a day, and

has never

> herxed ever since we started these herbs last December. He also

does not

> develop rash on LDM-100 like some kids could. I started Raintree

Cat's Claw

> a couple days ago. His stools change from loose to very firm

almost

> constipated to well-shaped, firm to loose stools again. It seems

to me his

> gut is going through rollercoaster. But I am not sure if it is

directly

> related to Cat's Claw.

>

> Limin

>

>

[Guest guest]

The difference may be that Nutramedix Samento has "frequency" added to it. I think to support the detox pathways but I'm NOT totally sure. Nutramedix will be exhibiting at the conference so maybe Limin or I can ask them about this.

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Limin:Yes, my stools are doing the same thing from the Cat's Claw/Samento. The good thing about herbs like Cat's Claw is that they have properties built in to keep herxing down, thus some don't herx on it. My herxing is mild. I tend to herx horrendously. I can't even take things like grape seed extract, coconut oil, or garlic because I just plain can not tolerate the herxing. Thus, if I am getting a mild herx, that means many others may not herx at all.Heidi N>> Heidi,> > Thank you for sharing your experience. I wish my tough-nut kid can herx > easier so to give me a sign whether things have worked for him or not. He > is on alternating Cumanda and Banderol 30 drops twice a day, and has never > herxed ever since we started these herbs last December. He also does not > develop rash on LDM-100 like some kids could. I started Raintree Cat's Claw > a couple days ago. His stools change from loose to very firm almost > constipated to well-shaped, firm to loose stools again. It seems to me his > gut is going through rollercoaster. But I am not sure if it is directly > related to Cat's Claw.> > Limin> > Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.

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You're right Limin...I have a stupid question. What is TOA? I've seen this on the packaging but never researched to find out what that was.

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Also, Nutramedix Samento is TOA-free, which Dr. Cowden recommends. Dr. Buhner recommends the whole herb containing TOAs. Tami, this is why I think it is beneficial to arrange a panel for these great doctors to have a conversation...

You really have a awesome speaker list for the incoming LIA conference.

Limin

Re: Re: Samento versus Cat's Claw

The difference may be that Nutramedix Samento has "frequency" added to it. I think to support the detox pathways but I'm NOT totally sure. Nutramedix will be exhibiting at the conference so maybe Limin or I can ask them about this.

Tami DuncanPresident and Co-Founderwww.liafoundation.orgHelp the LIA Foundation with it's mission by ordering Gluten Free / Casein Free Meals online and delivered right to your door! GFmeals donates a % back to LIAF from the purchases. http://www.gfmeals.com/?Click=351

In a message dated 6/5/2008 9:13:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Ambitionn01aol writes:

Limin:Yes, my stools are doing the same thing from the Cat's Claw/Samento. The good thing about herbs like Cat's Claw is that they have properties built in to keep herxing down, thus some don't herx on it. My herxing is mild. I tend to herx horrendously. I can't even take things like grape seed extract, coconut oil, or garlic because I just plain can not tolerate the herxing. Thus, if I am getting a mild herx, that means many others may not herx at all.Heidi N>> Heidi,> > Thank you for sharing your experience. I wish my tough-nut kid can herx > easier so to give me a sign whether things have worked for him or not. He > is on alternating Cumanda and Banderol 30 drops twice a day, and has never > herxed ever since we started these herbs last December. He also does not > develop rash on LDM-100 like some kids could. I started Raintree Cat's Claw > a couple days ago. His stools change from loose to very firm almost > constipated to well-shaped, firm to loose stools again. It seems to me his > gut is going through rollercoaster. But I am not sure if it is directly > related to Cat's Claw.> > Limin> >

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Yes..I think there is some kind of energetic frequency added for detox support. I need to find out more though.

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Tami, what do you mean by "frequency?" Is it potentized or energized?Gayatri> >> > Heidi,> > > > Thank you for sharing your experience. I wish my tough-nut kid can > herx > > easier so to give me a sign whether things have worked for him or > not. He > > is on alternating Cumanda and Banderol 30 drops twice a day, and > has never > > herxed ever since we started these herbs last December. He also > does not > > develop rash on LDM-100 like some kids could. I started Raintree > Cat's Claw > > a couple days ago. His stools change from loose to very firm > almost > > constipated to well-shaped, firm to loose stools again. It seems > to me his > > gut is going through rollercoaster. But I am not sure if it is > directly > > related to Cat's Claw.> > > > Limin> > > >> > > > > > > > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with > Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4? & NCID=aolfod00030000000002)> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.

[Guest guest]

Also, Nutramedix Samento is TOA-free, which Dr. Cowden recommends. Dr. Buhner recommends the whole herb containing TOAs. Tami, this is why I think it is beneficial to arrange a panel for these great doctors to have a conversation...

You really have a awesome speaker list for the incoming LIA conference.

Limin

Re: Re: Samento versus Cat's Claw

The difference may be that Nutramedix Samento has "frequency" added to it. I think to support the detox pathways but I'm NOT totally sure. Nutramedix will be exhibiting at the conference so maybe Limin or I can ask them about this.

Tami DuncanPresident and Co-Founderwww.liafoundation.orgHelp the LIA Foundation with it's mission by ordering Gluten Free / Casein Free Meals online and delivered right to your door! GFmeals donates a % back to LIAF from the purchases. http://www.gfmeals.com/?Click=351

Limin:Yes, my stools are doing the same thing from the Cat's Claw/Samento. The good thing about herbs like Cat's Claw is that they have properties built in to keep herxing down, thus some don't herx on it. My herxing is mild. I tend to herx horrendously. I can't even take things like grape seed extract, coconut oil, or garlic because I just plain can not tolerate the herxing. Thus, if I am getting a mild herx, that means many others may not herx at all.Heidi N>> Heidi,> > Thank you for sharing your experience. I wish my tough-nut kid can herx > easier so to give me a sign whether things have worked for him or not. He > is on alternating Cumanda and Banderol 30 drops twice a day, and has never > herxed ever since we started these herbs last December. He also does not > develop rash on LDM-100 like some kids could. I started Raintree Cat's Claw > a couple days ago. His stools change from loose to very firm almost > constipated to well-shaped, firm to loose stools again. It seems to me his > gut is going through rollercoaster. But I am not sure if it is directly > related to Cat's Claw.> > Limin> >

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[Guest guest]

Tami, what do you mean by " frequency? " Is it potentized or energized?

Gayatri

> >

> > Heidi,

> >

> > Thank you for sharing your experience. I wish my tough-nut kid

can

> herx

> > easier so to give me a sign whether things have worked for him

or

> not. He

> > is on alternating Cumanda and Banderol 30 drops twice a day, and

> has never

> > herxed ever since we started these herbs last December. He also

> does not

> > develop rash on LDM-100 like some kids could. I started Raintree

> Cat's Claw

> > a couple days ago. His stools change from loose to very firm

> almost

> > constipated to well-shaped, firm to loose stools again. It seems

> to me his

> > gut is going through rollercoaster. But I am not sure if it is

> directly

> > related to Cat's Claw.

> >

> > Limin

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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>

> **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking

with

> Tyler Florence " on AOL Food.

> (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?

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>

[Guest guest]

Yes. Samento is potenicized with co-infections, etc.

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> > > Heidi,

> > >

> > > Thank you for sharing your experience. I wish my tough-nut kid

> can

> > herx

> > > easier so to give me a sign whether things have worked for him

> or

> > not. He

> > > is on alternating Cumanda and Banderol 30 drops twice a day,

and

> > has never

> > > herxed ever since we started these herbs last December. He

also

> > does not

> > > develop rash on LDM-100 like some kids could. I started

Raintree

> > Cat's Claw

> > > a couple days ago. His stools change from loose to very firm

> > almost

> > > constipated to well-shaped, firm to loose stools again. It

seems

> > to me his

> > > gut is going through rollercoaster. But I am not sure if it is

> > directly

> > > related to Cat's Claw.

> > >

> > > Limin

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> **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking

with

> Tyler Florence " on AOL Food.

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