Vice Principle-No knowledge of Autism

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Hi,I had a conversation this am with my teens high school vice

principle. My son is being suspended agin..ughhh. Anyway I asked the

vp what he knew about autism,pdd spectrum and students social

challenges ect. He says he knows " nothing really " in regards to

autism spectrum. Nothing about student stress,social

challenges,meltdowns or difficulties faced by kids pertaining to

autism or stimming behaviors. I can't believe this! Anyway my son is

having social difficulties at school. Now he is suspended agin, for 1

week. He is having all kinds of problems this year. I asked if my son

was CAUGHT spitting. He was not. My son does spit. He says he did not

spit on someones coat. He spits in garbage cans,sinks and outdoors.

He's always spit. He was seen in the vicinity of the persons coat.

The kids claimed my son had spit on it. The vp says he will take

their{students} word. I told him my son was not there on the

accusation day. He said it did not matter what day it was. He also

told me about state laws and fines that are filed against my son too.

Spitting is against the law. A few days ago my son was also with

another teen who had tobacco. My son is getting fined{state law} and

suspended for this write up. It took place out of town at a hs

football game my son attended. Guilt by association. My son is

getting a state fine for this also. The vp told me if my son is

having academic problems because of all the attendance issues from

suspensions that he could have an iep. He said thats all the school

has to offer. My son was not eligible for the iep because of high

test scores. They gave him the wasl test. I am stressed into overtime

dealing with the schools. Now state fines. I have not met a single

school professional in our small town schools who will make provision

or allowance for behaviors that go hand in hand with the autism

spectrum or know anything about the autism spectrum. I mentioned to

the vp that he may want to talk to someone who knows about autism or

read something online. He did not say he would. I think I made him

mad with my advice. It was not my intent. I may end up homeschooling/

ged with all of my children agin. Now I have to pay state fines.

Needless to say,my children are not excused under the law. Its so

dang hard parenting through all theese issues.

I have had so many years of this! too many.

Tishanne

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Hi Tishanne,

The math program I was telling you about is now uploaded on my www.hiyah.net site.

Sara

Vice Principle-No knowledge of Autism

Hi,I had a conversation this am with my teens high school vice principle. My son is being suspended agin..ughhh. Anyway I asked the vp what he knew about autism,pdd spectrum and students social challenges ect. He says he knows "nothing really" in regards to autism spectrum. Nothing about student stress,social challenges,meltdowns or difficulties faced by kids pertaining to autism or stimming behaviors. I can't believe this! Anyway my son is having social difficulties at school. Now he is suspended agin, for 1 week. He is having all kinds of problems this year. I asked if my son was CAUGHT spitting. He was not. My son does spit. He says he did not spit on someones coat. He spits in garbage cans,sinks and outdoors. He's always spit. He was seen in the vicinity of the persons coat. The kids claimed my son had spit on it. The vp says he will take their{students} word. I told him my son was not there on the accusation day. He said it did not matter what day it was. He also told me about state laws and fines that are filed against my son too. Spitting is against the law. A few days ago my son was also with another teen who had tobacco. My son is getting fined{state law} and suspended for this write up. It took place out of town at a hs football game my son attended. Guilt by association. My son is getting a state fine for this also. The vp told me if my son is having academic problems because of all the attendance issues from suspensions that he could have an iep. He said thats all the school has to offer. My son was not eligible for the iep because of high test scores. They gave him the wasl test. I am stressed into overtime dealing with the schools. Now state fines. I have not met a single school professional in our small town schools who will make provision or allowance for behaviors that go hand in hand with the autism spectrum or know anything about the autism spectrum. I mentioned to the vp that he may want to talk to someone who knows about autism or read something online. He did not say he would. I think I made him mad with my advice. It was not my intent. I may end up homeschooling/ged with all of my children agin. Now I have to pay state fines. Needless to say,my children are not excused under the law. Its so dang hard parenting through all theese issues.I have had so many years of this! too many.Tishanne

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((((((((Tishanne & Family)))))))))))

To: AutismBehaviorProblems Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:45:48 PMSubject: Vice Principle-No knowledge of Autism

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Thank you Sara!

- In AutismBehaviorProblems , " Sara "

wrote:

>

> Hi Tishanne,

> The math program I was telling you about is now uploaded on my

www.hiyah.net site.

>

> Sara

>

> Vice Principle-No knowledge of Autism

>

>

> Hi,I had a conversation this am with my teens high school vice

> principle. My son is being suspended agin..ughhh. Anyway I asked

the

> vp what he knew about autism,pdd spectrum and students social

> challenges ect. He says he knows " nothing really " in regards to

> autism spectrum. Nothing about student stress,social

> challenges,meltdowns or difficulties faced by kids pertaining to

> autism or stimming behaviors. I can't believe this! Anyway my son

is

> having social difficulties at school. Now he is suspended agin,

for 1

> week. He is having all kinds of problems this year. I asked if my

son

> was CAUGHT spitting. He was not. My son does spit. He says he did

not

> spit on someones coat. He spits in garbage cans,sinks and

outdoors.

> He's always spit. He was seen in the vicinity of the persons

coat.

> The kids claimed my son had spit on it. The vp says he will take

> their{students} word. I told him my son was not there on the

> accusation day. He said it did not matter what day it was. He

also

> told me about state laws and fines that are filed against my son

too.

> Spitting is against the law. A few days ago my son was also with

> another teen who had tobacco. My son is getting fined{state law}

and

> suspended for this write up. It took place out of town at a hs

> football game my son attended. Guilt by association. My son is

> getting a state fine for this also. The vp told me if my son is

> having academic problems because of all the attendance issues

from

> suspensions that he could have an iep. He said thats all the

school

> has to offer. My son was not eligible for the iep because of high

> test scores. They gave him the wasl test. I am stressed into

overtime

> dealing with the schools. Now state fines. I have not met a

single

> school professional in our small town schools who will make

provision

> or allowance for behaviors that go hand in hand with the autism

> spectrum or know anything about the autism spectrum. I mentioned

to

> the vp that he may want to talk to someone who knows about autism

or

> read something online. He did not say he would. I think I made

him

> mad with my advice. It was not my intent. I may end up

homeschooling/

> ged with all of my children agin. Now I have to pay state fines.

> Needless to say,my children are not excused under the law. Its so

> dang hard parenting through all theese issues.

> I have had so many years of this! too many.

>

> Tishanne

>

[Guest guest]

(((((Tishanne)))))

I feel so bad for you. I wish we lived closer, I would " love " to have

a " chat " with this vp.

Honestly, you need to talk to the closest disability center about a

lawyer, or find one that would love to take this on pro-bono. It's

totally wrong.

Sorry no other thoughts on this.

>

> Hi,I had a conversation this am with my teens high school vice

> principle. My son is being suspended agin..ughhh. Anyway I asked

the

> vp what he knew about autism,pdd spectrum and students social

> challenges ect. He says he knows " nothing really " in regards to

> autism spectrum. Nothing about student stress,social

> challenges,meltdowns or difficulties faced by kids pertaining to

> autism or stimming behaviors. I can't believe this! Anyway my son

is

> having social difficulties at school. Now he is suspended agin, for

1

> week. He is having all kinds of problems this year. I asked if my

son

> was CAUGHT spitting. He was not. My son does spit. He says he did

not

> spit on someones coat. He spits in garbage cans,sinks and outdoors.

> He's always spit. He was seen in the vicinity of the persons coat.

> The kids claimed my son had spit on it. The vp says he will take

> their{students} word. I told him my son was not there on the

> accusation day. He said it did not matter what day it was. He also

> told me about state laws and fines that are filed against my son

too.

> Spitting is against the law. A few days ago my son was also with

> another teen who had tobacco. My son is getting fined{state law}

and

> suspended for this write up. It took place out of town at a hs

> football game my son attended. Guilt by association. My son is

> getting a state fine for this also. The vp told me if my son is

> having academic problems because of all the attendance issues from

> suspensions that he could have an iep. He said thats all the school

> has to offer. My son was not eligible for the iep because of high

> test scores. They gave him the wasl test. I am stressed into

overtime

> dealing with the schools. Now state fines. I have not met a single

> school professional in our small town schools who will make

provision

> or allowance for behaviors that go hand in hand with the autism

> spectrum or know anything about the autism spectrum. I mentioned to

> the vp that he may want to talk to someone who knows about autism

or

> read something online. He did not say he would. I think I made him

> mad with my advice. It was not my intent. I may end up

homeschooling/

> ged with all of my children agin. Now I have to pay state fines.

> Needless to say,my children are not excused under the law. Its so

> dang hard parenting through all theese issues.

> I have had so many years of this! too many.

>

> Tishanne

>

[Guest guest]

I consistently love your thoughts on stuff like this...you are a marvelous defender even if only through email...., I wish you lived close to all of us You are so willing to stroll in and speak...I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need some of what you have!!!!

J

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------I feel so bad for you. I wish we lived closer, I would "love" to have. A "chat" with this VP.

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the kind words.

I took criminal justice courses over 10 years ago.

Before I took the classes I thought that things worked out the right

way.

Boy was I naive.

I've learned that the old saying that mom always quoted is right. The

squeaky wheel gets the oil.

I have also learned that if I can't get an answer on the phone from

someone, that I " magically " appear in their waiting area. It is much

easier to get rid of someone on the phone, not as easy when they are

sitting in the waiting area. So far, I have usually gotten what I

want, or at least a good start to getting it.

I only hope that my words, though not posted that often can help make

it easier for others.

>

> I consistently love your thoughts on stuff like this...you are a

marvelous defender even if only through email...., I wish you

lived close to all of us   You are so willing to stroll in and

speak...I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I need some of what you have!!!!

>  

> J

>  

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

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> I feel so bad for you. I wish we lived closer, I would " love " to

have.

> A " chat " with this VP.

>

[Guest guest]

,the squeaky wheel is my dads quote too,lol. Boy were they ever

right! I worked as an advocate in the past for human rights,special

needs and some other grass root foundations. Moving things through

the legal system is like hitting the brick wall,over and over. It

amounts to a small fish in a giant fish bowl taking up lots of space.

Most would rather dump the bowl,flush the fish and redecorate. If you

choose to enjoy the fish and care for its needs and feed it,that

would be ethics, at its best. To bad ethics are on the other side of

the brick wall,lol.

You are one of the few who scale it,lol.

Hugs,high fives,

Tishanne

- In AutismBehaviorProblems ,

" karenrichard2000 " wrote:

>

> Thank you for the kind words.

>

> I took criminal justice courses over 10 years ago.

>

> Before I took the classes I thought that things worked out the

right

> way.

>

> Boy was I naive.

>

> I've learned that the old saying that mom always quoted is right.

The

> squeaky wheel gets the oil.

>

> I have also learned that if I can't get an answer on the phone from

> someone, that I " magically " appear in their waiting area. It is

much

> easier to get rid of someone on the phone, not as easy when they

are

> sitting in the waiting area. So far, I have usually gotten what I

> want, or at least a good start to getting it.

>

> I only hope that my words, though not posted that often can help

make

> it easier for others.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > I consistently love your thoughts on stuff like this...you are a

> marvelous defender even if only through email...., I wish you

> lived close to all of us   You are so willing to stroll in and

> speak...I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I need some of what you

have!!!!

> >  

> > J

> >  

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------

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> ------------

> > I feel so bad for you. I wish we lived closer, I would " love " to

> have.

> > A " chat " with this VP.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you again for the kind words.

I sometimes feel like I am beating my head against that brick wall,

but I know the door is there somewhere, so I keep on looking.

I also refuse to take no for an answer. I now know what needs to be

done and come he!! or high water it will get done.

My current battle is s hand writing. It is not getting any

better, if he's anything like me, it'll be years before it does.

My concern is he's in 4th grade and there are major tests coming up.

I want him to be tested on his knowledge not his handwriting. He is

allowed extra time and a scribe, but I would prefer him being able to

type his answers if possible, so we are going throuhj the bs about

testing for it.

I always nake sure I have a mental end date, where if what I want

isn't done, the gloves come off.

I'm giving them until the end of November, then I call for an

emergency CSE (committee on special education) meeting, sign the 5

day waiver, and get it expedited.

I'll make sure and keep all informed.

> > >

> > > I consistently love your thoughts on stuff like this...you are

a

> > marvelous defender even if only through email...., I wish

you

> > lived close to all of us   You are so willing to stroll in and

> > speak...I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I need some of what you

> have!!!!

> > >  

> > > J

> > >  

> > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------

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> --

> > ------------

> > > I feel so bad for you. I wish we lived closer, I would " love "

to

> > have.

> > > A " chat " with this VP.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Tishanne,I am so sorry! How could this VP know nothing about Autism! He should get edjucated on it and fast! That is just terrible! I feel so bad for all you are going through and everything you have been through! I am so sorry and will continie to pray for you and your family!StacieSent via BlackBerry by AT&TDate: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:45:48 -0000To: <AutismBehaviorProblems >Subject: Vice Principle-No knowledge of Autism Hi,I had a conversation this am with my teens high school vice principle. My son is being suspended agin..ughhh. Anyway I asked the vp what he knew about autism,pdd spectrum and students social challenges ect. He says he knows " nothing really " in regards to autism spectrum. Nothing about student stress,social challenges,meltdowns or difficulties faced by kids pertaining to autism or stimming behaviors. I can't believe this! Anyway my son is having social difficulties at school. Now he is suspended agin, for 1 week. He is having all kinds of problems this year. I asked if my son was CAUGHT spitting. He was not. My son does spit. He says he did not spit on someones coat. He spits in garbage cans,sinks and outdoors. He's always spit. He was seen in the vicinity of the persons coat. The kids claimed my son had spit on it. The vp says he will take their{students} word. I told him my son was not there on the accusation day. He said it did not matter what day it was. He also told me about state laws and fines that are filed against my son too. Spitting is against the law. A few days ago my son was also with another teen who had tobacco. My son is getting fined{state law} and suspended for this write up. It took place out of town at a hs football game my son attended. Guilt by association. My son is getting a state fine for this also. The vp told me if my son is having academic problems because of all the attendance issues from suspensions that he could have an iep. He said thats all the school has to offer. My son was not eligible for the iep because of high test scores. They gave him the wasl test. I am stressed into overtime dealing with the schools. Now state fines. I have not met a single school professional in our small town schools who will make provision or allowance for behaviors that go hand in hand with the autism spectrum or know anything about the autism spectrum. I mentioned to the vp that he may want to talk to someone who knows about autism or read something online. He did not say he would. I think I made him mad with my advice. It was not my intent. I may end up homeschooling/ ged with all of my children agin. Now I have to pay state fines. Needless to say,my children are not excused under the law. Its so dang hard parenting through all theese issues. I have had so many years of this! too many. Tishanne