Guest guest Posted January 19, 2000 Report Share Posted January 19, 2000 Hi , So glad to hear that you're doing well on this diet. > Lately I have been on an Atkins diet > very lo-carbohydrate and high protien. I have > noticed that my arthritis seems much better > while I am on it, and if I slip and > eat a high carb meal and lots of sugar I have a > corresponding increase in pain and inflamation. Don't know if I could eat that much meat, but love the veggies. Hope you continue to keep us up-dated on your progress. > I know a lot of my arthritis must be triggered > by food allergies as I am allergic to wheat, gluten Finally someone else who doesn't tolerate gluten!! It's a hard one to stay away from, isn't it? > ... all fish Even fresh water fish? Don't know what I'd do without the catfish my hubby brings home from the river. I've just begun a fish & veggie diet that's supposed to eliminate all the chemicals found in so much of our food today. I'm finding it hard to leave off the fruits and fruit juices. Hope you continue to improve, Patty Bacon in the springy Pineywoods of East Texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2000 Report Share Posted January 19, 2000 niklpn@... wrote: > From: niklpn@... > > Lately I have been on an Atkins diet very lo-carbohydrate and high > protien. I have > noticed that my arthritis seems much better while I am on it, and if I > slip and eat a high carb meal and lots of sugar I have a corresponding > increase in pain and inflamation. Has anyone else experienced this? I have noticed that if I " pig out " and eat stuff with a lot of fat and chocolate, and _especially_ if I do it several days in a row, I feel noticeably creakier with more joint pain; plus the P can be redder and more obnoxious. One day this week I had eaten two hamburg patties for dinner -- I don't eat much beef -- and the next morning I felt like I was having a bit of a PA flare. --Louise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2000 Report Share Posted July 28, 2000 MY FATHER IS ON THE ATKINS DIET. HE HAS DONE REAL REAL WELL. TINA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2000 Report Share Posted July 28, 2000 A friend is diabetic and she was able to get her insulin under control with "The Zone" diet. It looks kind of complicated to me but it was worth it to her. She no longer has to take glucotrol. Lee twest5601@... wrote: MY FATHER IS ON THE ATKINS DIET. HE HAS DONE REAL REAL WELL.TINA--------------------------------------------------------------------Search, Select and Save! FREE Quotes - Maid Services, Landscaping, Moving, Home Repair Services and More! ServiceLane has a network of reputable and reliable service pros for all your home service needs!1/7614/6/_/817445/_/964838340/--------------------------------------------------------------------|e>-The Being Sick CommunityChat RoomDaily Chat at # on IRC DALnethttp://www.elderwyn.com/members/chat.htmlMemorial Pagehttp://www.elderwyn.com/members/inlovingmemory.htmlMembers Lounge*FREE counselling via email*Daily Horoscopes*FREE psychic/tarot readings via email*Daily cartoons*Medical Resources and more....http://www.elderwyn.com/members Members Profiles, locations and birthdaysMessage Archivesmessages/Upload your PictureTo subscribe or unsubscribesubscribe/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~“Hold on to what is good, even if it's a handful of earth. Hold on to what you believe, even if it's a tree that stands by itself. Hold on to what you must do even, if it's a long way from here. Hold on to your life, even if it's easier to let go." - Pueblo Prayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2000 Report Share Posted July 29, 2000 In a message dated 7/28/00 10:25:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mydragon@... writes: << I know not alot of you on here have diabetes, but I wanted to know if anybody is on this Atkins thing? Melinda >> Hate to sound stupid but what is the Atkins diet? I have diabetes so I am wondering if this is a new treatment? Thanks Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2000 Report Share Posted July 29, 2000 oh gosh. Well its not really a " Diet " . But a way to eat better. My husbands coworker showed him this picture of him two years ago. He was really overweight, now he is this thin healthy looking guy. Said that he and his wife went on this " diet " and that she used to have diabetes. hehe i said what? well i guess she used to take insulin and pills for her diabetes and now 2 years later on this new style of living she doesnt have to take them anymore. go out and buy the book, its called Dr. Atkins new diet revolution good luck. i think we are going to try it and ill keep you updated if you want to know. melinda Re: Atkins Diet In a message dated 7/28/00 10:25:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mydragon@... writes: << I know not alot of you on here have diabetes, but I wanted to know if anybody is on this Atkins thing? Melinda >> Hate to sound stupid but what is the Atkins diet? I have diabetes so I am wondering if this is a new treatment? Thanks Jo The Being Sick Community Chat Room Daily Chat at # on IRC DALnet http://www.elderwyn.com/members/chat.html Memorial Page http://www.elderwyn.com/members/inlovingmemory.html Members Lounge *FREE counselling via email *Daily Horoscopes *FREE psychic/tarot readings via email *Daily cartoons *Medical Resources and more.... http://www.elderwyn.com/members Members Profiles, locations and birthdays Message Archives messages/ Upload your Picture To subscribe or unsubscribe subscribe/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ “Hold on to what is good, even if it's a handful of earth. Hold on to what you believe, even if it's a tree that stands by itself. Hold on to what you must do even, if it's a long way from here. Hold on to your life, even if it's easier to let go. " - Pueblo Prayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2000 Report Share Posted July 30, 2000 "i think we are going to try it and ill keep you updated if you want to know." Dear Melinda, There are many people here with Diabetes so I am sure that they would love to be updated on how it helps you. And of course we want to be updated on how you are anyhow!! So how are you? *grin* Love and hugs Aisha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2000 Report Share Posted July 30, 2000 "Though I am aware that the Atkins diet has helped many people, peoplewith known or suspected mitochondrial or metabolic diseases need to beVERY careful when attempting to adjust your diet... the results can bedeadly. Please, please (ma hen, back me up here!! lol) consult your doctorbefore attempting any manipulations like this!" Absolutely. Before you begin any diet you should talk to your doctor about it first and make sure that they monitor your progress. It is vital that you tell your doctor because if changes start occurring and it makes you sick, your doctor wont know why. So please, before you start ANYTHING new like a diet or fitness regime, see your doctor and keep them informed. This is a critical thing to do for anyone, regardless of them having an illness/condition or not. Love Aisha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2000 Report Share Posted July 31, 2000 Hi all... I just have to throw my .02 worth in here... Though I am aware that the Atkins diet has helped many people, people with known or suspected mitochondrial or metabolic diseases need to be VERY careful when attempting to adjust your diet... the results can be deadly. Please, please (ma hen, back me up here!! lol) consult your doctor before attempting any manipulations like this! love, Aisha Elderwyn wrote: > " i think we are going to try it and ill keep you updated if you want > to know. " Dear Melinda, There are many people here with Diabetes so I > am sure that they would love to be updated on how it helps you. And of > course we want to be updated on how you are anyhow!! So how are you? > *grin* Love and hugsAisha. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > The Being Sick Community > > Chat Room > Daily Chat at # on IRC DALnet > http://www.elderwyn.com/members/chat.html > > Memorial Page > http://www.elderwyn.com/members/inlovingmemory.html > > Members Lounge > *FREE counselling via email > *Daily Horoscopes > *FREE psychic/tarot readings via email > *Daily cartoons > *Medical Resources and more.... > http://www.elderwyn.com/members > > Members Profiles, locations and birthdays > > > Message Archives > messages/ > > Upload your Picture > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe > subscribe/ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > “Hold on to what is good, even if it's a handful of earth. Hold on to > what you believe, even if it's a tree that stands by itself. Hold on > to what you must do even, if it's a long way from here. Hold on to > your life, even if it's easier to let go. " - Pueblo Prayer > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2000 Report Share Posted July 31, 2000 Well thanks for asking Aisha. :)Im doing ok. Tired. Today is the frist actual day on this diet. I am very hopeful. The first 2 weeks are going to be the hardest for me. You can have 0 carbs. Thats to break you of your habbit. And boy i can feel it already. They said that you might even go thru withdrawl even. ACK. But im hoping this will help my sugars. i will try to keep you updated with the results. :)Hope everybody is doing well today. Melinda Re: Atkins Diet " i think we are going to try it and ill keep you updated if you want to know. " Dear Melinda, There are many people here with Diabetes so I am sure that they would love to be updated on how it helps you. And of course we want to be updated on how you are anyhow!! So how are you? *grin* Love and hugs Aisha.The Being Sick CommunityChat RoomDaily Chat at # on IRC DALnethttp://www.elderwyn.com/members/chat.htmlMemorial Pagehttp://www.elderwyn.com/members/inlovingmemory.htmlMembers Lounge*FREE counselling via email*Daily Horoscopes*FREE psychic/tarot readings via email*Daily cartoons*Medical Resources and more....http://www.elderwyn.com/members Members Profiles, locations and birthdaysMessage Archivesmessages/Upload your PictureTo subscribe or unsubscribesubscribe/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~“Hold on to what is good, even if it's a handful of earth. Hold on to what you believe, even if it's a tree that stands by itself. Hold on to what you must do even, if it's a long way from here. Hold on to your life, even if it's easier to let go. " - Pueblo Prayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2000 Report Share Posted July 31, 2000 I actually agree with you too wendy. I dont know about any problems but i do agree, whatever you do dont start something different like this untill you speak with your doctor. Melinda Re: Atkins Diet >Hi all... >I just have to throw my .02 worth in here... >Though I am aware that the Atkins diet has helped many people, people >with known or suspected mitochondrial or metabolic diseases need to be >VERY careful when attempting to adjust your diet... the results can be >deadly. >Please, please (ma hen, back me up here!! lol) consult your doctor >before attempting any manipulations like this! > >love, > > > >Aisha Elderwyn wrote: > >> " i think we are going to try it and ill keep you updated if you want >> to know. " Dear Melinda, There are many people here with Diabetes so I >> am sure that they would love to be updated on how it helps you. And of >> course we want to be updated on how you are anyhow!! So how are you? >> *grin* Love and hugsAisha. >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> The Being Sick Community >> >> Chat Room >> Daily Chat at # on IRC DALnet >> http://www.elderwyn.com/members/chat.html >> >> Memorial Page >> http://www.elderwyn.com/members/inlovingmemory.html >> >> Members Lounge >> *FREE counselling via email >> *Daily Horoscopes >> *FREE psychic/tarot readings via email >> *Daily cartoons >> *Medical Resources and more.... >> http://www.elderwyn.com/members >> >> Members Profiles, locations and birthdays >> >> >> Message Archives >> messages/ >> >> Upload your Picture >> >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe >> subscribe/ >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> “Hold on to what is good, even if it's a handful of earth. Hold on to >> what you believe, even if it's a tree that stands by itself. Hold on >> to what you must do even, if it's a long way from here. Hold on to >> your life, even if it's easier to let go. " - Pueblo Prayer >> >> > > > > >The Being Sick Community > >Chat Room >Daily Chat at # on IRC DALnet >http://www.elderwyn.com/members/chat.html > >Memorial Page >http://www.elderwyn.com/members/inlovingmemory.html > >Members Lounge >*FREE counselling via email >*Daily Horoscopes >*FREE psychic/tarot readings via email >*Daily cartoons >*Medical Resources and more.... >http://www.elderwyn.com/members > >Members Profiles, locations and birthdays > > >Message Archives >messages/ > >Upload your Picture > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe >subscribe/ > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >“Hold on to what is good, even if it's a handful of earth. Hold on to what you believe, even if it's a tree that stands by itself. Hold on to what you must do even, if it's a long way from here. Hold on to your life, even if it's easier to let go. " - Pueblo Prayer > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2000 Report Share Posted July 31, 2000 I agree that you should check with your doctor but many are ignorant about diets, supplements, etc. It is great if you can find a professional who can help you with both traditional and non-traditional approaches to your illness. Lee Aisha Elderwyn <aisha@...> wrote: Absolutely. Before you begin any diet you should talk to your doctor about it first and make sure that they monitor your progress. It is vital that you tell your doctor because if changes start occurring and it makes you sick, your doctor wont know why. So please, before you start ANYTHING new like a diet or fitness regime, see your doctor and keep them informed. This is a critical thing to do for anyone, regardless of them having an illness/condition or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2000 Report Share Posted August 6, 2000 Pick up the book if you really wnat to find a diet that will take your weight off. The book will ease your fears and most likely get you excited to the point of KNOWING you can lose the weight. There are several clubs for low carb diets also.<br><br>Whatever you choose to do, best of luck to you. It is not easy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2000 Report Share Posted October 20, 2000 hi Aisha and all... re: the atkins diet...I'd be leery about it because it is a fad diet....truth is most fad diets works...sad part about the truth is losing the weight is often not the problem...it's regaining it that is. I have a friend whose Dr. refused her to go on a diet because she didn't have an excercise program in place. Often, without an exercise program in place the person will gain more back when they stop the fad diet than they originally weighed before they started...therefore better not to diet...it's best to change lifestyle habits of eating and add in an exercise program. the body needs to have metabolism burning the foods you consume. proper eating is essential for health...cells need to be nourished with over 50 nutrients per day...if you are not getting something ,even if it's a minute amount of a micronutrient, smaller than the size of a head on a straight pin...over time you could develop a deficiency disease as a result....we are over nourished and underfed in this society...meaning we get lots to eat...but not enough nutrients...over processed foods loaded with chemicals and preservatives that we can't even read let alone pronounce (I'm speaking for myself there...lol) are basically killing us....along with our daily exposure to toxins and pollutants from air and water.....many people are unaware of the toxins that we are exposed to daily...such as dioxins and xenoestrogens (hormone changing fake estrogens) ...I have tried many diets....some worked some didn't...since I became a Nutritional Consultant, I have talked to many people about diets and what works...there are 7 keys....they make sense....they work...I have had great results and many others have too... The mind, body and spirit have to be in balance for true health.....L.E.A.N. program combines them all.. Regarding the health aspects of the plan below...it's a great program because it shows people the myths, the reasons for eating as they do....there are great tapes that go along with it...topics include: why diets and traditional approaches fail, the psychology of weight control, the mind as an important part of the digestive system, what opra winfrey taught us about dieting, the myth of america as a healthy nation, the truth about fatness, the myth of the fitness boomm the truth about miracle cures, the myth of high protein diets, the truth about nutrients in food, the myth about eating les, the truth about calorie burning, ...that was just cassettte one..... there are 12 cassettes in all....others talk about habits,the four corner stones of change,setting yourself free,action tips for positive habit formation, practice makes permanent, postive self awareness, limits vs limitations, the woman from arizonia won by losing, who's controlling your self image, the visualization of victory, seeing is beliving or vice versa, the four legs of self esteem, the single most important human quality, mirror ,mirror on the wall, self-centered vs value centered individuals, 10 ways to build self esteem, how to take control of your thoughts and lifestyle, the 5 powers of purpose, secret of champions, turning negatives into positives, 10 self-affirming beliefs, foods that make us sick, empty foods full of fat, the RDa is not enough, confessions of a couch potato, why we need to drastically change our eating habits, how physical exercise prevents disease, building relationships-self talk, goal acheivement, eating right-self talk, financial security self talk, winners work out self talk,LlEAN team principles, the"right" way to exercise, etc..they are great tapes...as well as the program is awesome because it all blends together and makes so much sense.Check out the link below... principles and the diffference sections... http://www.leanlifelong.com/team/ it's good for people with most existing health probs ...you should contact your Dr. to be sure. It's great for those who are diabetic (because they concentrate on low gycemic carbs...ones that dont spike insulin to cause rapid blood sugar reactions) ......the focus is on balance of macronutrients (carbs, protein, and proper essential fats...not high amounts of saturated fats) and micronutrients (vitamins, minerals and antioxidants), adequate fiber in both forms soluble and insoluble, and pure water. We all need carbs...it's just that we need proper sources of carbs...we need all need protein...we just dont need tons of it...and certain forms of it if undigested can cause inflammation within the body...fats...there are definitely good fats and bad fats ...we all should be taking essential fattty acids on a daily basis...a quick lil story about essential fats...lately tessa's fingers tips have been peeling...i asked about it on another list...someone said it's a characteristic of kids with A>D.D....she's 3 yrs old...she doesn't have that but....many A.D.D, kids are lacking in essential fats ....our bodies don't make them so we have to add them in...normally i add them into a high protein shake for Tessa but havent for over a month or more because she's been eating lots of protein...i totally forgot about the essential fats aspect of why i give her that drink...so she's back on it today....and i bet that clears it up! As for the LEAN program, which stands for lifestyle, education, activity and nutrition...i love it...it is part of the supplements that i promote....i do get paid for promoting them if someone purchases products if they use my referral id number...I'm not telling you about this program for a sale..i dont do this line of work for money..i do it because i enjoy helping others get well..i know what it's like to be and it sucks..i dont want anyone to not consider these products because i promote them....you could always order them from someone else. Whatever kind of program anyone tried for weight loss be sure to throughly check it out, ask lots of questions...don't do anything that will harm your body more. Any questions or more info feel free to ask me...I know quite a bit about it. Sheena;) Aisha Elderwyn wrote: I've been talking to people who are on a health fraud list about this Atkins diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2001 Report Share Posted November 16, 2001 In a message dated 11/16/2001 6:04:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, gmurphy@... writes: My question is this: Has anyone else had a similar experience after being on the Atkins or other high protein, low carb diet? Did you have a worsening of symptoms or first get diagnosed after the diet? The reason I ask is that I now believe this type of diet is extremely dangerous and would like to hear if others experienced the same thing so I can try to deter the people I know who are on it or thinking of doing so. Tammy, I had a similar experience on the Suzanne Sommers plan. She doesn't have the strict reduction of carbs; she does a food separation thing where you can eat protein/fat with veggies or carbs with veggies but no carbs with meat/fat. It worked really well for me for about three months. Then, suddenly, all the weight piled back on and the more strict I was with the diet plan, the more stubbornly the weight clung to my body. I upped my exercise and I still couldn't budge from my previous weight. In addition, I had a severe sweets craving even though I normally am a no sugar kind of gal. When I shifted to a more balanced eating plan--making sure I get five servings of vegetables per day and eating some lower glycemic carbs with each protein serving, I have felt much more satisfied and I don't have the extreme sugar cravings I used to have. I don't know about the Atkins diet being dangerous for everyone. My old thyroid doc was a stickler for it; he said EVERYONE needed to eat like that! But it sounds like it was dangerous in your case! Keep experimenting until you find an eating plan that works well for you and that makes you feel sane and healthy! Good luck! in LA "We are each responsible for our own life--no other person is or even *can* be." Oprah Winfrey http://geocities.com/llheinsohn/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2001 Report Share Posted November 16, 2001 Tammy Fuller wrote: My question is this: Has anyone else had a similar experience after being on the Atkins or other high protein, low carb diet? Did you have a worsening of symptoms or first get diagnosed after the diet? The reason I ask is that I now believe this type of diet is extremely dangerous Tammy, Dunno if the Atkins diet is dangerous, but it's certainly the most extreme... if you have friends who want to try a low-carb diet, you could steer them towards a more gentler one such as Sugar Busters! or Carbohydrate Addicts diet. Surely it's not unhealthy to get nutrition from grilled chicken and salads and loads of green peppers, cucumbers, mushrooms, onions, garlic, bok choy, strawberries, blueberries, etc. is it? (rather than relying on white flour & sugar for energy) If you think about it, low-carb diets have a lot in common with low-fat diets because many of the "diet staples" are the same, such as salad and tuna fish and cottage cheese. But of course, many are also different, such as unprocessed cheese and nuts. -- Mindy ----------------------- "...that they may be one..." - Jesus, 17:22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2001 Report Share Posted November 16, 2001 Mindy, I totally agree with you about diet. I struggle with hypoglycemia and cutting out the refined stuff makes a huge difference. I believe that low carb is the way to go but the danger with Atkins is the lure of staying on the induction phase (where the carbs are only 20 grams) for longer than 2 weeks. By the way, I like the way you sign your e-mails. God bless, Tammy Re: Atkins diet Tammy Fuller wrote: My question is this: Has anyone else had a similar experience after being on the Atkins or other high protein, low carb diet? Did you have a worsening of symptoms or first get diagnosed after the diet? The reason I ask is that I now believe this type of diet is extremely dangerous Tammy, Dunno if the Atkins diet is dangerous, but it's certainly the most extreme... if you have friends who want to try a low-carb diet, you could steer them towards a more gentler one such as Sugar Busters! or Carbohydrate Addicts diet. Surely it's not unhealthy to get nutrition from grilled chicken and salads and loads of green peppers, cucumbers, mushrooms, onions, garlic, bok choy, strawberries, blueberries, etc. is it? (rather than relying on white flour & sugar for energy) If you think about it, low-carb diets have a lot in common with low-fat diets because many of the "diet staples" are the same, such as salad and tuna fish and cottage cheese. But of course, many are also different, such as unprocessed cheese and nuts. -- Mindy ----------------------- "...that they may be one..." - Jesus, 17:22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2001 Report Share Posted November 16, 2001 Tammy, I'm not an expert on the Atkin's Diet but I do know that it is a really low-carb plan. I think you can still keep the carbs at a minimal level without going that low. For my low-carb eating, I get most of my carbs from vegetables, nuts, oatmeal, plain yogurt, and fruit (although I try not to go overboard with the fruit). For protein, I try to stick with fish, eggs, and chicken and keep the red meat to 2-3 times a month. I also try to eat a little bit of carb with every protein--really evens out the blood sugar. One benefit I've noticed with staying away from carbs like flour and sugar is that my mood is much more even. I don't have the extreme mood swings. Whether any of this will affect my TSH levels and thyroid I'm not sure. I just want to know that I've tried all possible routes before going on medication. I have heard that low-carb eating is suggested for other ailments as well, such as lupus and arthritis. Not sure on the validity of any of that either! Anyone else heard of that??? >>> tfuller@... 11/15/01 03:19PM >>> Hi everyone, I have a question but before I ask I need to give a little background. I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism in September but believe I've had a problem for years. Prior to six years ago I was beyond exhausted to the point of hurting, had headaches, irregular periods, got sick constantly and had allergy problems. I found that all of the symptoms went away when I started on a fantastic liquid supplement, with the exception of a weight issue. However, I think the weight issue was really just unrealistic expectations because 3 1/2 years ago I was a size 8-10. I decided to go on the Atkins diet. Initially I was successful and lost 18 pounds and kept most of it off for a year and a half. Then I started to gain it back and every time I'd try to lose again going back on Atkins I had no success. Then not only could I not lose but I started to gain uncontrollably despite watching calories and exercise. It was the uncontrolled weight gain that finally led me to a diagnosis of hypothyroidism even though the extreme fatigue and other symptoms didn't return. My question is this: Has anyone else had a similar experience after being on the Atkins or other high protein, low carb diet? Did you have a worsening of symptoms or first get diagnosed after the diet? The reason I ask is that I now believe this type of diet is extremely dangerous and would like to hear if others experienced the same thing so I can try to deter the people I know who are on it or thinking of doing so. Thanks! Tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2001 Report Share Posted November 17, 2001 My thyroid problem seemed to get worse when I tried a Zone style diet. However, I tried the vegetarian version, which utilizes tons of soy. Soy has been found to adversely affect the thyroid. I believe this is the reason my thyroid problem got worse, not necessarily the fact that I was eating more protein. Many of the high-protein foods, including Atkins diet products contain soy. I wonder if perhaps you were eating a lot of soy? This may be the root of the problem. I have switched back to a more balance diet- very high in fruits and veggies. I also eat some whole grains and dairy. I'm attempting to be a vegetarian again and have found that wheat gluten is a good source of protein and a nice alternative to soy, although they are not readily available (a health food store, or ordering from a catalog are where I have found wheat gluten products). If you are going to use high protein supplements, I would recommend trying ones made with whey protein or wheat gluten. Good luck! --- annah1149@... wrote: > In a message dated 11/16/2001 6:04:48 AM Pacific > Standard Time, > gmurphy@... writes: > > > > My question is this: Has anyone else had a similar > experience after being on > > the Atkins or other high protein, low carb diet? > Did you have a worsening > > of symptoms or first get diagnosed after the diet? > The reason I ask is that > > I now believe this type of diet is extremely > dangerous and would like to > > hear if others experienced the same thing so I can > try to deter the people > > I know who are on it or thinking of doing so. > > > > Tammy, > > I had a similar experience on the Suzanne Sommers > plan. She doesn't have the > strict reduction of carbs; she does a food > separation thing where you can eat > protein/fat with veggies or carbs with veggies but > no carbs with meat/fat. > It worked really well for me for about three months. > Then, suddenly, all the > weight piled back on and the more strict I was with > the diet plan, the more > stubbornly the weight clung to my body. I upped my > exercise and I still > couldn't budge from my previous weight. In addition, > I had a severe sweets > craving even though I normally am a no sugar kind of > gal. > > When I shifted to a more balanced eating > plan--making sure I get five > servings of vegetables per day and eating some lower > glycemic carbs with each > protein serving, I have felt much more satisfied and > I don't have the extreme > sugar cravings I used to have. > > I don't know about the Atkins diet being dangerous > for everyone. My old > thyroid doc was a stickler for it; he said EVERYONE > needed to eat like that! > But it sounds like it was dangerous in your case! > Keep experimenting until > you find an eating plan that works well for you and > that makes you feel sane > and healthy! > > Good luck! > in LA > " We are each responsible for our own life--no other > person is or even *can* > be. " Oprah Winfrey > > http://geocities.com/llheinsohn/index.html > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2001 Report Share Posted November 17, 2001 I have been a vegetarian for about 8 years. No meat (beef, chicken, fish, milk). I eat soy products, and haven't noticed my thyroid fluctuate. I have heard that most soy now is genetically engineered, and too much soy can deplete some of your minerals, so we try to balance that. Seems that when we find something is good for us, we find that it isn't so good for us. It is SO hard!! ) PS Thyroid can be effected by stress, depression, etc. Happy Holidays!!! Love, Reneé and Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 In a message dated 6/19/02 11:47:55 AM Central Daylight Time, bigbird3969@... writes: You're right, I have not read his books, an yes I knew he was a cardiologist, but so is Dean Ornish and he's had significant improvements in people going in a completely ifferent direction than Atkins! I have also read Dean Ornish, and my take on it is multifold: 1) He probably does have success with the more vegetarian approach for people who do well on a vegetarian diet (back to the blood-typing diet, again. Type A, I think). 2) Dean Ornish goes way beyond changing your eating habits. People who are successful on his program must undergo radical lifestyle changes, which even Dean Ornish himself admits are very difficult to live with on a permanent basis in this world. 3) Dean Ornish is - and always has been - predisposed to vegetarianism, and openly admits that the diet alone is very tough to live with. Thank you, Steve, for admitting you had never read Atkins' books. That puts into context your opinions - pro and con - on the subject, and allows the reader to evaluate your comments in context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2003 Report Share Posted May 10, 2003 I know of a website you can try for diet that helped my candida. That is heatlhfree.com and rawfoods.com. They talk about raw foods and how the enzymes in raw foods help balance out the gut again. I use it and it is miraculous for me. There is a book called 12 steps to raw food and it has some great recipes in it for bread, muffins, and soups as well as salads etc. I fyou watch the carb effect on the muffin recipes you can eat some of it. also atkins has some low carb breads now as well as low carb deserts if you're going bonkers for food that won't add weight on to you. I hope this helps. rosemarie > > Hi there, > > I am new to your group but am sure not new to CANDIDIASIS!!! > > I am currently on DR. ATKIN'S DIET " INDUCTION " DIET; is any one in > > this group on Atkins, and if so, how do you find it for combating > > YEAST problems? > > > > I have tried the CANDIDIASIS diets but, still find them too high in > > carbohydrates for me; I am trying to loose the excess weight which > my > > Doctor says is " for the most part " caused by this > Condition/Illness, > > namely: CANDIDIASIS. Obviously there are some yeast type foods > which > > I have to eliminate on the Atkins Diet e.g. cheese, vinegar, > > mushrooms, and similar. > > > > Any advice and help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > God Bless, > > Mitzi's Mum (From NEW ZEALAND.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 >> It also felt counter-intuitive to me to be turning down fruits and whole grains in favor of artificial ingredients and fractionated products in the name of lowering carb intake. << But you don't have to do that on Atkins..... you NEVER have to eat artificial ingredients or fractionated products, EVER, and you only eschew fruits for two weeks! As for whole grains, you can, if you wish, add those back as you near your goal weight. Christie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 I've been doing Atkins for a couple of years now. It helped a lot mainly getting my weight down and taking the additional pressure off my feet. The only downside that I can really see is the high fat component of the diet but keeping away from animal sources of fat should minimize that. I also do calmag, lecithin, fish oil, and vitamin E religiously. I think it's helped, my father was wearing orthotics on both legs at my age, I'm still wobbling along without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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