Re: Any other ex-vegetarians here?

[Guest guest]

,

My Name is Dr. Marasco

and I too am a former veg. :-)))

As far as advising your veg friends,

usually at some point the rubber hits the

road and that nutritional profile does not

provide insulation from illness and breakdown.

So be a good friend don't preach too much, a little

is ok :-)))) and you may rest assured you'll

have plenty of opportunities to help. If you

really want to look forward to helping lots of

people try making friends with a bunch of vegans,

They will need you sooner than later.

Sincerely,

Dr. Marasco,BS,DC

Cincinnati, Oh

> I was your classic VUG - vegetarian until graduation. I never read

> anything about health or nutrition, but the dogma of the time was

> that pasta and high carb foods were good for sports performance. I

> never paid any attention at all to 'cholesterol clogging your

> arteries', I guess scientists had flip-flopped enough that it

wasn't

> worth paying attention to. But I did feel that eating fat made you

> fat and carbs were good, potent energy sources. I had a few

> vegetarian friends and they seem to have a certain kind of pride

> about their lifestyle, so I decided to do it to.

>

> I was pesco-vegetarian (read: phony vegetarian) and even though I

ate

> a *lot* of tunafish sandwidches (somehow the fact that tuna with

mayo

> was higher in fat than red meat or chicken escaped me) I still got

> meat craving, so I would go through guilty phases where I cheated,

> sometime pretty regularly (but I never told anyone).

>

> Anyone else here like that?

>

> The cool thing about being an ex-vegetarian is that even before

> reading about nutrition and WAP, is that I tease my veggie friends

> about how silly their diet is instead of thinking deep down that

> maybe they were right. Now that I'm into nutrition I have to let

the

> subject drop, because I'd come across as preaching. I made the

> mistake of lecturing one friend about soy and she was not pleased

to

> hear it (fortunately she tries to avoid processed foods). I think

> vegetarians enjoy having the upper hand on nutritional matters!

>

>

[Guest guest]

:

Dr. M is right: sooner or later your friends will have a problem and contact

you (or think of you). The same thing has happened to me. People who thought

I was out of my mind when I gave lectures about animal protein being

necessary in the diet have contacted me over the years and said they found

out the hard way that I was right.

And as for your thought that vegetarians like to have the upper hand in

nutritional matters, you're absolutely right. They do NOT like being

challenged. Actually, they can't believe that someone is actually

challenging them and their beliefs because they are so used to having it

" their way " in the media. Also, don't forget that the emotional factor

enters in, too. 99% of the nasty letters I've gotten from vegetarians have

simply been emotional outbursts about what an evil person I am, how I've

been paid off by the meat industry, how I hate animals, how I'm a disgrace

to the health profession, etc., etc. Try to focus on the intellectual issues

and don't get caught up in the extras as it will leave you exhausted

and.....without any more veggie friends.

All the best,

Byrnes, PhD, RNCP

http://www.PowerHealth.net

>From: " justinbond " <justin_bond@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Any other ex-vegetarians here?

>Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 07:25:22 -0000

>

>I was your classic VUG - vegetarian until graduation. I never read

>anything about health or nutrition, but the dogma of the time was

>that pasta and high carb foods were good for sports performance. I

>never paid any attention at all to 'cholesterol clogging your

>arteries', I guess scientists had flip-flopped enough that it wasn't

>worth paying attention to. But I did feel that eating fat made you

>fat and carbs were good, potent energy sources. I had a few

>vegetarian friends and they seem to have a certain kind of pride

>about their lifestyle, so I decided to do it to.

>

>I was pesco-vegetarian (read: phony vegetarian) and even though I ate

>a *lot* of tunafish sandwidches (somehow the fact that tuna with mayo

>was higher in fat than red meat or chicken escaped me) I still got

>meat craving, so I would go through guilty phases where I cheated,

>sometime pretty regularly (but I never told anyone).

>

>Anyone else here like that?

>

>The cool thing about being an ex-vegetarian is that even before

>reading about nutrition and WAP, is that I tease my veggie friends

>about how silly their diet is instead of thinking deep down that

>maybe they were right. Now that I'm into nutrition I have to let the

>subject drop, because I'd come across as preaching. I made the

>mistake of lecturing one friend about soy and she was not pleased to

>hear it (fortunately she tries to avoid processed foods). I think

>vegetarians enjoy having the upper hand on nutritional matters!

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Yes, but I was only veggie for about 6 months. I did

it mainly because I have ethical problems with the way

animals are treated in factory farming operations. I

think we should take spiritual responsibility for the

life taken or used in order to feed us, and that

method of raising animals for food abdicates the

responsibility completely, by not giving any

consideration to the quality of the animal's life. I

was also concerned about the healthfulness of eating

meat or milk from such an artificial, chemical

environment. I didn't realize products from

properly-raised animals were available (short of

raising it yourself), and it seemed a better choice to

forego animal products entirely. Luckily, I continued

to do research, and realized I was headed in the wrong

direction.

Sally, I want to thank you specifically for what you

say about this on p. 30 of NT. Reading that was a

lightbulb moment for me in my struggle to reconcile

the issue of using animals for food.

Aubin

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[Guest guest]

I was a vegetarian for 24 years!!! I went back and forth on being a

vegan, but mostly I was a lacto-ovo veggie and tried to eat very

little dairy and eggs. In the lsst few years, I started reading alot

about fats and was convinced that the low fat fad was crazy. I

started adding alot of flax oil into my diet. But now...what a turn

around! I'm sold on the NT way of eating. I feel so much better.

Gianine

[Guest guest]

Dear Aubin,

Yes, I really struggled mentally with this section of NT. Sally

> Sally, I want to thank you specifically for what you

> say about this on p. 30 of NT. Reading that was a

> lightbulb moment for me in my struggle to reconcile

> the issue of using animals for food.

>

> Aubin

>

>