Re: A question for those outside the US

[Guest guest]

Here in the UK it is quite terrible and hard to get services as well. I think it helps to have free medical treatment on the NHS over here though.

A question for those outside the US

I apologize if this is an inappropriate question, but I was curious asto how treatment and education is handled in countries other than theUS. In the US, it can be a horrifying process to get services(Occupational, speech therapy, behavioral therapy) and educationservices are atrocious in many locations. We are homeschoolingbecause the public school is completely inappropriate and we cannotafford private school-or rather the schools we can afford (and we areso fortunate to have options) have extremely long waiting lists. Inmy area, "alternative" therapies-such as hippotherapy, music therapy,etc.- are mainly paid for by the families (with no or little taxreductions), or through non-profit organizations.I was just curious about the experiences of families from other countries.

[Guest guest]

I think it depends where you live in the US, childs diagnosis and

insurance plan. There are things I have had to fight for, but

overall my experience in the Dakotas has been good. We do have to

travel to the cities for some specialties. We will be taking a trip

to the Shriner's Hospital in Dec. for Cody's scolosis.

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> I apologize if this is an inappropriate question, but I was curious

as

> to how treatment and education is handled in countries other than

the

> US.

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> In the US, it can be a horrifying process to get services

> (Occupational, speech therapy, behavioral therapy) and education

> services are atrocious in many locations. We are homeschooling

> because the public school is completely inappropriate and we cannot

> afford private school-or rather the schools we can afford (and we

are

> so fortunate to have options) have extremely long waiting lists. In

> my area, " alternative " therapies-such as hippotherapy, music

therapy,

> etc.- are mainly paid for by the families (with no or little tax

> reductions), or through non-profit organizations.

>

> I was just curious about the experiences of families from other

countries.

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[Guest guest]

, My family is in India and there is not much awareness about the issue in that country. Even though they have recently been programming shows about what Autism is, parents of children on spectrum are very confused as to where to seek help. I know that school system does not provide everything our children needs but I am glad that he gets an opportunty to get in the school bus and go to school whereas in India people would just tag him Retarded and keep him aside in the house. Anshu

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

We lived in France and the drs. diagnosed my son with child psychosis at age 2 1/2 schezophenia?????. It's all because of the Freudian influence on psychology And had him going to an outpatient hospital for what I call nothing. Possibly observing him. My son did have one teacher who was his advocate over there and got an aid through the gov. while he went to day care and preschool. There are schools but in and around Paris and the waiting list is very very long. Mostly people struggle on their own. I was in the south of France and joined a support group. That support group said to me if you are American you'd be a lot better off going back to the U.S.

I don't regret it for my sons sake, but we would have struggled big time if we had stayed there! There is no such thing as a DAN dr. etc. nor all the therapies that are offered here HBOT, AIT. In France, I think they are now starting to talk a bit more about it but they are far behind the U.S.

We should all be thankful for this great country and the things that are offered here....even though you must have the money to pay for some of these wonderfully expensive services.

Take care,

Happy Thanksgiving!

Jane Rawlings

To: AutismBehaviorProblems From: steelady13@...Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:55:10 +0000Subject: A question for those outside the US

I apologize if this is an inappropriate question, but I was curious asto how treatment and education is handled in countries other than theUS. In the US, it can be a horrifying process to get services(Occupational, speech therapy, behavioral therapy) and educationservices are atrocious in many locations. We are homeschoolingbecause the public school is completely inappropriate and we cannotafford private school-or rather the schools we can afford (and we areso fortunate to have options) have extremely long waiting lists. Inmy area, "alternative" therapies-such as hippotherapy, music therapy,etc.- are mainly paid for by the families (with no or little taxreductions), or through non-profit organizations.I was just curious about the experiences of families from other countries. Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. Sign up today.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I live in the Netherlands, but wasn't diangosed till adulthood so am not

totally sure what's available to children. As far as I know, services are

spread out between mental health agencies, agencies for people with

developmental disabilities and general child/youth service agencies. For

diagnosis, most children will first go to either the family's general

practitioner or Bureau Youth Care, which is a provincial agency that refers

children/adolescents with any sort of developmental or psychological or

behavioral problem to appropriate agencies. They will likely be referred to

an autism team, which is a part of the mental health system that specializes

in diagnosing and treating autistics. There are different treatment

programs, but most have long waiting lists and the same goes for diagnosis.

Classic ABA is not too widespread here, but generally the programs

incorporate features from different methodologies, eg. ABA, TEACCH, speech

therapy, etc. However, only a limited number of children get intensive

therapy. In most cases, the parent will get training and the child will get

some therapies bu tnot many.

As far as I school goes, schooling for autistics is spread out between

regular schools with a visiting teacher, schools for children with

hearing/speech/language disabilities, schools for children with learning

disabilities and schools for children with behavioral disabilities. It is

hard to find appropriate placement and the worst is for people who have a

high IQ but cannot function in regular education, cause they generally will

not fit in with special ed classes. There is at least one school that offers

high-level education to special ed students, but as far as I know, this is

more of a form of guided homeschooling (hoemschooling is normally not

allowed here) than real specialized education. Many children as a result get

no education at all.

If the child needs residential services, oh my, it's even worse. I had to

stop watchng a tv show before I broke down, because the child couldn't be

placed anywhere because she has severe autism (cannot function in a group of

children at all) yet an IQ above 85. She was placed temporarily in an

institution for mentally retarded children, but had to leave there because

of her high IQ. This girl has finally found appropriate placement (or so it

seems), but there are a number who are constantly in crisis units or even

juvenile prisons *we have an extreme shortage of juvenile locked psychiatric

places).

And don't get me started on adult services... out-patient care is fairly

good, apart fromt he long waiting lists, but if you need more than a weekly

consultation with a psychiatric nurse and a support worker coming to your

hoem twice a week, well, if you have an IQ below 85, you're somewhat lucky,

but if you happen to have a high IQ, well... that's how I ended up in the

psychiatric hospital.

Astrid

astrid@...

http://www.astridvanwoerkom.com/

A question for those outside the US

I apologize if this is an inappropriate question, but I was curious as

to how treatment and education is handled in countries other than the

US.

In the US, it can be a horrifying process to get services

(Occupational, speech therapy, behavioral therapy) and education

services are atrocious in many locations. We are homeschooling

because the public school is completely inappropriate and we cannot

afford private school-or rather the schools we can afford (and we are

so fortunate to have options) have extremely long waiting lists. In

my area, " alternative " therapies-such as hippotherapy, music therapy,

etc.- are mainly paid for by the families (with no or little tax

reductions), or through non-profit organizations.

I was just curious about the experiences of families from other countries.

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