RE: Re: digestion (was 3 or 4 meals)

February 3, 2002

I consider myself very lucky digestion-wise, because my second flush yielded

substantially fewer stones than my first. However, the all-raw foodists take

the position that cooked fats are the problem, even the " good " cooked fats,

which in turn cause the stones. I do agree that all raw is better, only based

on my own experience with eating almost all raw (for about a week) vs. eating

according to NT. However, I made the conscious choice to continue to eat cooked

foods, even though I felt much better on all raw, because it was too much of a

lifestyle change all at once, and I thought it would be too tough on my kids in

our society to maintain an all raw diet, which could cause rebellion later. I'm

at about 50-50 raw/cooked, right now and feeling fine, so I'll continue this

way.

----- Original Message -----

From: drmichaelmarasco

Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 1:28 PM

Subject: Re: digestion (was 3 or 4 meals)

Barb,

Makes an excellent point which was my attempt in the original

response. You can attempt to isolate one organ involved in

metabolism such as liver or gallbladder, however she still had

problems after nearly a dozen flushes. The problem is rarely as

simple as just flushing. Again you must first determine is the

digestion working well. Gas, bloating, belching, flatulence, stool

color,freq, and consistency are some good indicators. You can flush

gallbladders and livers and kidneys and colons all you want but if

the food is not high quality, not being chewed, not being broken down

and assimilated right the gallbladder, the liver, the colon, etc...

will continue to malfunction. This shotgun attempt is no different

than many of the myopic medical practices of giving drugs for

symptoms and never looking at the causes. ie. asprin for headache.

I have yet to see a headache caused by asprin deficiency and I have

yet to see a broken down gallbladder caused by a lack of flushing.

Flushing can be extremely healthy but is rarely addressing the root

level of what's happening. Barb said that Standard Process and

Homeopathy was helpful and combining that with some of the other

posts I've read of hers, I'll go out on a limb and say she probably

saught some professional guidance. It is a complicated road to

travel to reconstruct the digestive system function. Some are

simpler than others, take me for example it literally took me

combining with several top notch professionals to figure out the

marass I had made of my digestive system. However it was the most

important thing I ever did. By all means try some simple things on

your own but by the fact that we are interested enough to try

something to fix our digestion clearly says that there is help

needed. If your digestion is already struggling don't make it worse,

ask someone who is capable of helping you for help.

Sincerely,

DMM

> Also - regarding gall bladders and digestion. If you do a gall

bladder/liver flush/cleanse, follow it up with AF Betafood by

Standard Process (probably the best supplement for gall bladders) and

lots of fermented beets. If you don't like to make fermented

vegetables, Rejevanative foods makes a fermented product called Live

zing salad which is really good and had beets in it. Wild Oats

carries it...not sure about Whole Foods.

>

> Barb

>

February 3, 2002

Dr. Marasco -

Actually, now that you mention it, I was having some trouble before I cut my

carb intake. Now, I'm very regular (2X a day) and everything else is cool too.

I make sure to get some fermented drinks or foods in every day - that seems to

be a good key to well-being also.

Dana

----- Original Message -----

From: drmichaelmarasco

Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 2:13 PM

Subject: Re: digestion (was 3 or 4 meals)

Dana,

Provided you are doing well. And having 2 bowel movements per day

minimum that are of good consistency and color and your not having

any other symptoms, doesn't sound to me like anything needs to be

changed at all. I also see no problem with consuming some cooked

fats, I am not in agreement with the notion that the stones are from

the cooking, its a poor diet and or digestion issue. So just as you

stated I would say just keep doing what you're doing.

Sincerely,

Dr. Marasco, BS,DC

> > Also - regarding gall bladders and digestion. If you do a gall

> bladder/liver flush/cleanse, follow it up with AF Betafood by

> Standard Process (probably the best supplement for gall bladders)

and

> lots of fermented beets. If you don't like to make fermented

> vegetables, Rejevanative foods makes a fermented product called

Live

> zing salad which is really good and had beets in it. Wild Oats

> carries it...not sure about Whole Foods.

> >

> > Barb

> >

February 4, 2002

Thanks for all the replies! I did do 2 gallbladder flushes, but

continued to have problems as long as I ate wheat. Now I no longer have

attacks; but whether I still have stones or whether they are

disappearing without the constant insult of the offending food is not

the point. One can do multiple flushes, but new stones will be formed as

long as the offending food is being ingested. I have eliminated the

primary offender but I know that 34 years of eating SAD has screwed up

my digestion screwed and want to get it back on track.

>> However, the all-raw foodists take the position that cooked fats are

the problem, even the " good " cooked fats, which in turn cause the

stones. <<

I strongly disagree that fats are the problem at all. In my personal

experience, the doctors tried to scare me into surgery, saying " once

active gallstones, always active gallstones, " and telling me that fat

was the offender but I'd never know when I would have an attack:

sometimes I'd eat a fatty meal and not have one; other times I would eat

little fat and have a terrible attack. Long story short (see my website

if you want the long version) I discovered that the food I was sensitive

to (wheat, in my case), and NOT fat, caused the attacks. Fat causes the

gallbladder to contract, and so is the *immediate* cause of attacks, but

the food sensitivity sets it up and is the *ultimate* cause. If I was

eating wheat, even a couple pieces of bread a day, the smallest amount

of fat would give me an attack. When I avoided wheat, I could have a

jumbo plate of loaded nachos followed by an entire pint of Ben and

Jerry's finest and not have a blip on the screen. A crucial factor in

figuring all this out was Dr. Braly's book _Food Allergy and the

Nutrition Revolution_ where he cites one doctor who has not referred a

single patient for gallbladder surgery since he discovered food

allergies in the mid-70s.

On a related note, I had to avoid not only wheat but rye, barley, and

oats (which all have a component similar to gluten, my problem), and of

course spelt and kamut, which are related to wheat. Since discovering

NT, I now can have oatmeal again! Properly soaked, of course. I expect

to be able to add properly soaked spelt/kamut/wheat someday, when my

digestion has recovered a little more. Thank you Sally and Dr. Price!

~ Carma ~

To be perpetually talking sense runs out the mind, as perpetually

ploughing and taking crops runs out the land. The mind must be manured,

and nonsense is very good for the purpose. ~ Boswell

Carma's Corner: http://www.users.qwest.net/~carmapaden/

February 4, 2002

Again, the post to which he is replying is at the bottom. She is focusing a lot

on gall bladder problems which we don't have; but his answer is more general.

N

----- Original Message -----

From: drmichaelmarasco

Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 3:28 PM