Re: Questions re LDM, vaccines, viral infections.

December 3, 2008

Thanks to each of you for your responses.

I often give out printed info on vaccines to young women I know when

they become pregnant for the first time. I believe this has saved

some kids from a few problems!

My family has avoided vaccines for the most part. My mother never

trusted them, and thought they definitely should not be given to small

children (innate good sense- my mom).

I actually managed to survive measles, mumps, chicken pox, the flu,

and a few other dastardly diseases. My kids got few vaccines because

they were born before the vaccine schedule was so nuts, and we delayed

them. My youngest son was forced to get vax or they wouldn't accept

him in pre-school, and I had to work. Even then, I was very uneasy

about them, and this son has Crohn's. Dr. Wakefield was researching

crohn's, I think, when he found the MMR in the gut. When I researched

Crohn's, it was found that the year the MMR came out, IBD went up

something like four-fold. The children of many, many military people

seem to have IBD, and they're vaccinated to the max, and it often just

happens to come after the MMR.

We had a doctor years ago (alternative doctor who used the earliest

version of bio-energetic machine) who was against vaccines, had

researched them, planned to publish, but didn't get it done. He said

years ago -- vaccines weren't " clean " . And needed to go through

better filters. He also treated us for Epstein Barr with homeopathic

remedies that really worked.

The treatment was unusual, I've not found anyone else who does this,

but I have found it on the internet. He withdrew a small needle of

blood from a vein. Then he added that to the homeopathic remedy,

mixed it up, and then injected it into acupuncture points. It works

amazingly well. The Epstein Barr symptoms began clearing up within

three weeks. Treatment was usually 10 injections, one a week.

I've read of this being used on women with severe PMS, and a couple

other things. It works very well, but I don't know anyone anymore who

does it.

I believe babies, children, and teens and pretty much everybody should

avoid vaccines. Just, in some professions (like food, healthcare, the

military), vax are required or they won't let you work. I don't like

that, and I encourage EVERYONE not to vaccinate. Period.

I believe vaccines are really created to SPREAD diseases. HIV WAS

SPREAD in vaccines, purposely!! Other diseases as well.

There's an article on Mercola not too long ago, stating that vaccines

appear to have additives in them that are meant to cause infertility

in females, and these particular vaccines are forced on those

immigrating to the U.S. Looks like population control

~~~

Anyway, regarding Cytomegalovirus, it was found in my son ONLY by

accident. He developed a severe INTESTINAL infection which created an

abscess, which became a fistula. The fistula (infected tunnel) which

tunneled from the small intestine to the bladder... This happens in

Crohn's disease -- fistulas can go anywhere.

He developed a urinary tract infection. When the urine was tested, it

was found to have Cytomegalovirus and e-coli. He was a sick 16 year

old, and this situation required an intestinal re-section. (Cutting

out diseased part of intestine and re-connecting well parts.

When I researched cytomegalovirus (CMV) I found very interesting stuff

on pubmed. It is fairly common that CMV and EBV will cause intestinal

problems. GI doctors don't know this!! If they're not looking for

viral causes of IBD, they sure as heck won't find them. Instead they

put people on immune suppressants and prednisone, and that only

compounds the problems.

In some of these studies, they were treating with immune suppressants

and prednisone, and the patients got worse, and were in danger of

having whole colons removed. When the patient is put on antivirals

instead, guess what? They get better and get to keep their colons.

Sorry for length.

Thanks for your input.

Judy

December 3, 2008

Everyone,

Alot of people DO NOT know that legally by law none of your children have to be vaccinated. Schools will absolutely tell you they are required to have shot records but you need to ask childcare services/schools whoever that you do not vaccinate and request a waiver form. Schools HAVE NO CHOICE or say in the matter. Anyone who tells you differently is in VIOLATION of federal laws. You have to ask for a waiver either for "religous" reasons or a health condition. If you opt for reasons of a health issue you will need a doctor's signature, if you opt for "religour reasons that is the easiest way to go since you do not have to get any additional signatures. Alot of people do not know this and if you ask the administration or school nurse they will know exactly what you are talking about. Do NOT ever feel cornered on this, it is NOT THEIR CHOICE to make.

Kari

Subject: Re: Questions re LDM, vaccines, viral infections.To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 8:50 PM

Thanks to each of you for your responses.I often give out printed info on vaccines to young women I know whenthey become pregnant for the first time. I believe this has savedsome kids from a few problems! My family has avoided vaccines for the most part. My mother nevertrusted them, and thought they definitely should not be given to smallchildren (innate good sense- my mom). I actually managed to survive measles, mumps, chicken pox, the flu,and a few other dastardly diseases. My kids got few vaccines because they were born before the vaccine schedule was so nuts, and we delayedthem. My youngest son was forced to get vax or they wouldn't accepthim in pre-school, and I had to work. Even then, I was very uneasyabout them, and this son has Crohn's. Dr. Wakefield was researchingcrohn's, I think, when he found the MMR in the gut. When I researchedCrohn's, it was found that the year the

MMR came out, IBD went upsomething like four-fold. The children of many, many military peopleseem to have IBD, and they're vaccinated to the max, and it often justhappens to come after the MMR. We had a doctor years ago (alternative doctor who used the earliestversion of bio-energetic machine) who was against vaccines, hadresearched them, planned to publish, but didn't get it done. He saidyears ago -- vaccines weren't "clean". And needed to go throughbetter filters. He also treated us for Epstein Barr with homeopathicremedies that really worked. The treatment was unusual, I've not found anyone else who does this,but I have found it on the internet. He withdrew a small needle ofblood from a vein. Then he added that to the homeopathic remedy,mixed it up, and then injected it into acupuncture points. It worksamazingly well. The Epstein Barr symptoms began clearing up withinthree weeks.

Treatment was usually 10 injections, one a week. I've read of this being used on women with severe PMS, and a coupleother things. It works very well, but I don't know anyone anymore whodoes it. I believe babies, children, and teens and pretty much everybody shouldavoid vaccines. Just, in some professions (like food, healthcare, themilitary), vax are required or they won't let you work. I don't likethat, and I encourage EVERYONE not to vaccinate. Period. I believe vaccines are really created to SPREAD diseases. HIV WASSPREAD in vaccines, purposely!! Other diseases as well. There's an article on Mercola not too long ago, stating that vaccinesappear to have additives in them that are meant to cause infertilityin females, and these particular vaccines are forced on thoseimmigrating to the U.S. Looks like population control ~~~Anyway, regarding Cytomegalovirus, it was found in my

son ONLY byaccident. He developed a severe INTESTINAL infection which created anabscess, which became a fistula. The fistula (infected tunnel) whichtunneled from the small intestine to the bladder... This happens inCrohn's disease -- fistulas can go anywhere. He developed a urinary tract infection. When the urine was tested, itwas found to have Cytomegalovirus and e-coli. He was a sick 16 yearold, and this situation required an intestinal re-section. (Cuttingout diseased part of intestine and re-connecting well parts. When I researched cytomegalovirus (CMV) I found very interesting stuffon pubmed. It is fairly common that CMV and EBV will cause intestinalproblems. GI doctors don't know this!! If they're not looking forviral causes of IBD, they sure as heck won't find them. Instead theyput people on immune suppressants and prednisone, and that onlycompounds the problems. In some of

these studies, they were treating with immune suppressantsand prednisone, and the patients got worse, and were in danger ofhaving whole colons removed. When the patient is put on antiviralsinstead, guess what? They get better and get to keep their colons. Sorry for length. Thanks for your input.Judy

December 4, 2008

great post Judy and I have nothing to add it, just maybe re CMV – it is very hard to treat, but I remember reading about some Chinese clinical trials a while ago where they had very good success with intravenous allicin (or something similar-sounding from garlic).

Natasa