Re: valkion and The Health Light (Lyme tests and treatments)

[Guest guest]

Repost Averill's email: susanaverill @ naturx.net. (Remove space.)

I am not able to compare the testing/screening and treatments of Dr. K and

Dr. C for you. I have been doing Dr. C's protocol (LED + herbs) since last

July and had consulted with him directly, but I had only read online

information about Dr. K's treatments for the past 2 years and recently

attended his presentation at the LIA conference. I have not consulted with

Dr. K or implemented his protocol yet. It is difficult for me to compare.

I hope others who have done both can chim in.

If a person has Lyme + Babesia + Bartonella combo, Babesia/Bartonella should

be treated first or at the same time with Lyme. If I were you who wanted to

treat multiple infections (maybe Lyme, maybe not) without testing upfront,

yes, I would go ahead to use Allicin, HH, and Circ. P. Both Allicin and HH

are anti-fungal, and Allicin also helps chelating metals. Both HH and Circ.

P are helpful for treating Bartonella. Circ. P also helps enhancing blood

circulation and reduces inflammation. With these three herbal products, at

least I would get Bartonella covered. After I were on these for a month or

two, either I saw improvement or not, I would still look into tests. I

would do IGeneX panel 6050 for Lyme, and if I were you who live in Hong

Kong, I would not do coinfector test with IGeneX, and instead I would test

Bartonella and Babesia with Fry Labs. IGeneX tests for Babesia macroti, a

strain of Babesia prevailing in the US but might not be relevant to people

in Asia. Fry Labs blood smear test will look for physical evidence of

Bartonella and Babesia in red blood cells.

Hope this helps a little.

Limin

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Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 08:02

To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

Subject: Re: valkion and The Health

Light

> Hi Limin,

>

> Thanks a lot for the feedback.

>

> You mentioned the test about Dr K & Dr C, which one would you

> recommend.

>

> Averill's email address is truncated in your post, do you mind

> post it again with space in between the " @ " . TIA.

>

> You mentioned about flowchart in Zhang's book, it this the same that

> found in the following website :

> http://www.steveclarknd.com/LymeDisease.htm

>

> Actually my initail plan is to follow Zhang's protocol & assume my

> son does not have Babesiosis & jump straight in Zhang's Standard

> protocol. Does this make sense.

>

> xl_mum

>

>

>> >> >

>> >> > Well say, Kristie.

>> >> >

>> >> > Kathy,

>> >> >

>> >> > You have all my respects. I feel honored to be in the same

>> >> community with

>> >> > moms like you. I haven't tried Valkion and The Health Light

>> >> either. But

>> >> > others in this group have started. Sharing and learning,

>> > together

>> >> we will

>> >> > figure out effective treatments and new possibilities.

> Welcome

>> >> aboard.

>> >> >

>> >> > Limin

>> >> >

>> >> > --------------------------------------------------

>> >> > From: " extraordinaryboyilove " <aaron2kristie@>

>> >> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 20:15

>> >> > To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

>> >> > Subject: Re: valkion and

>> > The

>> >> Health

>> >> > Light

>> >> >

>> >> > > Kathy

>> >> > > I haven't tried either just wanted to say you're my hero!

> Still

>> >> > > believing and hoping and pressing on! God bless ya!

>> >> > >

>> >> > > Kristie

>> >> > >

>> >> > >

>> >> > > ------------------------------------

>> >> > >

>> >> > >

[Guest guest]

For the cost of seeing Dr. Cowden, you can look up Dawnmarie's post. She

posts under the name of " tastorfamily " . She just recently visited Dr.

Cowden in Phoenix and gave a detailed, appreciated account for her

experience. There have been several people posted how much they spent on

LED treatments, including Rita and Kristie. Rita also summarized the costs

of LED from coast to coast and posted at her WA group.

I spent $1500 to consult with Dr. Cowden and got my son screened via Asyra.

I did not do LED with his technician. I did LED locally for $150 per

treatment. This is not cheap at all. By far, Dr. 's charge is

most reasonable. You can check on this with Corinna, who just recently saw

Dr. E.

Usually if a person has both Bartonella and Babesia, if the same person

treat Babesia without treating Bartonella at the same, Bartonella symptoms

get worsen, but not the other way around. Since Dr. Zhang's standard

protocol will at least get Bartonella covered, so it should be OK to go

ahead and use the herbs as starting points. Be sure to introduce one at the

time, and observe and manage any herxing reactions. If you've got a CBS kid

or SUOX kid, I would start with Circ. P. If sulfur is not an issue, I would

start with Allisin first to keep yeast at bay, before the attempt of killing

Bartonella.

Limin

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Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 09:38

To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

Subject: Re: valkion and The Health

Light (Lyme tests and treatments)

> Hi Limin,

>

> Thank you so much again, I really appreciate your help.

>

> I need to digest more about the test.

>

> Sorry I still have some questions, as said I assume my son does not

> have Babesiosis & skip such treatment & go straight to standard

> one. What if he does have Babesiosis, will this downgrade the

> standard treatment if I bypass Babesiosis. Any idea.

>

> Based on your experience, do you know roughly how much I need to

> spend if I were to proceed Dr C's LED treatment. TIA.

>

> xl_mum

>

>

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Well say, Kristie.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Kathy,

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > You have all my respects. I feel honored to be in the same

>> >> >> community with

>> >> >> > moms like you. I haven't tried Valkion and The Health

> Light

>> >> >> either. But

>> >> >> > others in this group have started. Sharing and learning,

>> >> > together

>> >> >> we will

>> >> >> > figure out effective treatments and new possibilities.

>> > Welcome

>> >> >> aboard.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Limin

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > --------------------------------------------------

>> >> >> > From: " extraordinaryboyilove " <aaron2kristie@>

>> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 20:15

>> >> >> > To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

>> >> >> > Subject: Re: valkion

> and

>> >> > The

>> >> >> Health

>> >> >> > Light

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > > Kathy

>> >> >> > > I haven't tried either just wanted to say you're my hero!

>> > Still

>> >> >> > > believing and hoping and pressing on! God bless ya!

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> > > Kristie

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> > > ------------------------------------

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Limin,

Thank you very much for your time & advice.

xl_mum

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Well say, Kristie.

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Kathy,

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > You have all my respects. I feel honored to be in the

same

> >> >> >> community with

> >> >> >> > moms like you. I haven't tried Valkion and The Health

> > Light

> >> >> >> either. But

> >> >> >> > others in this group have started. Sharing and

learning,

> >> >> > together

> >> >> >> we will

> >> >> >> > figure out effective treatments and new possibilities.

> >> > Welcome

> >> >> >> aboard.

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Limin

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > --------------------------------------------------

> >> >> >> > From: " extraordinaryboyilove " <aaron2kristie@>

> >> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 20:15

> >> >> >> > To:

<BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

> >> >> >> > Subject: Re:

valkion

> > and

> >> >> > The

> >> >> >> Health

> >> >> >> > Light

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > > Kathy

> >> >> >> > > I haven't tried either just wanted to say you're my

hero!

> >> > Still

> >> >> >> > > believing and hoping and pressing on! God bless ya!

> >> >> >> > >

> >> >> >> > > Kristie

> >> >> >> > >

> >> >> >> > >

> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------

> >> >> >> > >

> >> >> >> > >