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Kim, Heidi,

I cannot agree more with Heidi's statement below. I generally do not like a

blend of different dietary supplements, as it is difficult to evaluate what

actually works. When a bad reaction occurs, it is hard to tell what causes

it. Plus, it limits the freedom to play around with the dosage of

individual ingredients. I am passionate towards biomed interventions to

recover our kids, but conservative in choosing appropriate supplements.

DHLA is not totally new to the market. Life Extension has a similar product

called " R " -Dihydro-Lipoic Acid

(http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00683.html). I think you might be

able to get Andy Cutler to comment on DHLA Nano-plex, if you post your query

on " Autism-Mercury " group. There is a large number of parents who are

believers, experts of lipoic acid in that group. I would be curious to

learn about their comments as well as Cutler's. In the past Cutler

commented that R-ALA (the pure, natural form of lipoic acid) is of marketing

hype and does not work better than ALA, which consists of the R " natural "

and S " synthetic " form in a 50/50 ratio. I could not believe in this

comment, as I am a big fan of the naturals and believe that our body

recognizes and utilizes the natural nutrients better than the synthetic

ones. I used R-ALA to replace ALA in my chelation mix and run 3 UTMs over

the course of two months. I found that Cutler was right. The level of my

son's metal excretion in urine was just about the same, when using R-ALA.

ALA and R-ALA make no difference at least from the prespective of metal

chelation. I am now back to use ALA again, because it is cheaper.

DHLA Nano-plex is not a 100% natural product as claimed, because it contains

some S form (synthetic) lipoic acid. It does look very interesting from

this product info:

http://www.healthproductsusa.net/30nano-dhlainfo_health.htm. It seemingly

sounds promising. However, I would be cautious as most of the studies cited

for the health benefits quoted there are done on ALA as powerful antioxidant

not on DHLA. There are also online reports of DHLA acting as a pro-oxidant

under certain circumstances. I feel that more studies are needed to

understand DHLA's chemical action and if there is any are potential

side-effect.

Limin

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> Kim:

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> (Limin, why don't you jump in and give some thoughts as well.)

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> I am honored that you value my opinion. Without doing much research,

> let me give some thoughts that come to mind. I really don't like

> mixes of products. I have used them in the past, but I was not

> happy. I like using as natural as I can get, and avoid fancy

> formulas. I get nervous when I think about man doing all these

> things to nature. Sometimes its a good thing, but sometimes not. I

> guess I really trust that God made us good herbs, and its up to us to

> find them. I have even had luck with consuming cinnamon to rid an

> ulcer in three days. Thus, I really think answers to problems are

> easy, we just need to find them. Thus, I like taking turmeric,

> resveratrol, and others in the whole herb form. I would also be

> willing to take them in an energy form that homeopathic integrative

> docs use. Two of the probiotics in this formula, Enterococcus

> Species and Streptcoccus are known to cause allergic reactions in

> some. Some in my family can not take probiotics with these in them.

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> The product makes great claims, and they may even be accurate, and it

> may even be a good product, but I like taking things in natural

> form. If there were lots of postings by parents saying they took it

> for years and it worked, then that would be interesting to me. I

> like to use things that I can find studies about, history about and

> lots of testimonies on various independent forums, as well as reports

> by doctors reporting patients' experiences with a product. Thus, I

> guess I really like to research stuff before I use it. I think this

> is a new product and does not have much to support it right now. I

> like playing it safe, and so I am sticking to the classics.

>

> Thus, this may be great product, and is sure is making lots of

> claims, but I am too cautious of a person to use it. You're wise to

> seek knowledge about products you are considering.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

> - In BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism , " Kim GIll "

> wrote:

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>> Heidi: Quick question. What does Resveratrol do? Is it an anti-

>> inflammatory? Anti-bacterial? Just curious....

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>> I would love your opinion on a certain product, if you have time to

>> look it up. It is called DHLA Nano-plex. It sounds very

>> impressive to me, and it contains a small amount of this

> Resveratrol

>> stuff. I heard of it first by researching this DHLA product, then

>> from you, so it must be great? Let me know what you think.

>>

>> Thanks to you and others about this lyme stuff. I think I am

> going

>> to keep doing my very basic DAN stuff, but include Cat's Claw into

>> the mix and see what we get. I have to start somewhere!

>>

>> Kim

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Heidi and Limin: Thank you so much for your honest opinions of this

product. I agree with you both, especially about being very

conservative about supplements I use for my son - and I LOVE the

history and testimonials to back up the decision before giving it to

my son. I am very leery of the " sales and marketing " people out

there that claim to have the magic ingredient or magic supplement.

I bought into that concept when we first started biomed - and

learned the hardway that there is NO magic supplement. How I wish

there was! I have bags full of " Stuff " that didnt work, both

reputable and " magical " .

Sometimes I feel a little desparate - desparate enough to believe

what I read, such as the info on the DHLA Nano Plex. I dont feel

that I have done enough to help my son (I am not as aggressively

treating him as others do), because even though I want recovery, I

am so afraid of the negative side effects that sometimes cause

regression. Unfortunately, the time keeps ticking away, and now my

son is 8 years old and still the same. I am envious of those

parents who really jump into biomed and see those improvements. I

have never jumped into anything - I am way too cautious. That is

why I love the fact that parents can describe to people on these

groups what they are doing, how their kids responded, and it is

actual accounts of what happened - not some sales person talking.

Thanks again - I wish you all the best!

Kim

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