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>Bethanne--

>Depending on where you are in southern VT, Shelburne

>MA may be closer than wherever you're getting your raw

>milk. I'd look at a map and see. I can pass on the

>farm's phone # if MA ends up a better option.

>

>Lierre

>

I am a few hours from the MA border (takes me an hour and a half just

to get as far as Bennington Vermont) . I am in Poultney which is

between Rutland and Manchester. I am right next to the NY border.The

irony is that I am surrounded by what I call the herbicide farmers.

They destroy the land with their chemicals and grow corn and take up

the grass to put their cows in the mud with these feed things. Poor

cows. They look so frail.

Will be a couple of years before i am ready to build a small barn and

have a cow and a goat and some chickens of my own so in the meantime

need to find a good resource for milk.

--

Warm Regards,

Bethanne Elion

Volhard Nutrition List Owner

Poultney, Vermont

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Bethanne,

Just a thought, but if you find that there are others in your area that are

interested getting real milk, you might be able to expedite your plans to

get your own livestock by entering into milk-share type program with them.

A single cow these days generally produces a lot of milk when she's

lactating, but then there's a lot of time when she's not lactating too.

Providing consistent milk for yourself *might* actually be easier if you

have multiple cows in rotating lactation and some people to share the excess

milk as well as the setup costs with.

I'm really hyper about the idea of milk-share programs right now, so I might

just be overzealous...

Just brainstorming...

Minneapolis (farm boy in exile :-) )

-----Original Message-----

From: Bethanne Elion [mailto:knitnewf@...]

Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:42 AM

Subject: Re: raw milk and diapers

>Bethanne--

>Depending on where you are in southern VT, Shelburne

>MA may be closer than wherever you're getting your raw

>milk. I'd look at a map and see. I can pass on the

>farm's phone # if MA ends up a better option.

>

>Lierre

>

I am a few hours from the MA border (takes me an hour and a half just

to get as far as Bennington Vermont) . I am in Poultney which is

between Rutland and Manchester. I am right next to the NY border.The

irony is that I am surrounded by what I call the herbicide farmers.

They destroy the land with their chemicals and grow corn and take up

the grass to put their cows in the mud with these feed things. Poor

cows. They look so frail.

Will be a couple of years before i am ready to build a small barn and

have a cow and a goat and some chickens of my own so in the meantime

need to find a good resource for milk.

--

Warm Regards,

Bethanne Elion

Volhard Nutrition List Owner

Poultney, Vermont

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>Bethanne,

>

>Just a thought, but if you find that there are others in your area that are

>interested getting real milk, you might be able to expedite your plans to

>get your own livestock by entering into milk-share type program with them.

>A single cow these days generally produces a lot of milk when she's

>lactating, but then there's a lot of time when she's not lactating too.

>Providing consistent milk for yourself *might* actually be easier if you

>have multiple cows in rotating lactation and some people to share the excess

>milk as well as the setup costs with.

>

>I'm really hyper about the idea of milk-share programs right now, so I might

>just be overzealous...

Hello ,

Thank-you for your brain storming. I love thinking minds! There is

more involved than just having cows for me. I feel that my soil needs

to be upgraded and I need to have some testing done to be sure I am

not getting any run off from the two farms - one next door and one

down the way. I shouldn't be by how the water flows but i have

learned never to assume anything. As I am sitting here in my

upstairs loft room i am watching one of these farmers break the law

by putting out that liquid manure onto one of the fields. Here in

Vermont they are not allowed to do that until the Spring run off.

I have 10.1 acres here and some of it was used to grow corn for 15 or

so years. That field needs to be brought back to life. This may

sound odd but somehow I feel like I was given this land to do just

that. Breathe life back into it. It is a very pretty piece of land

and some is doing very well.

--

Warm Regards,

Bethanne Elion

Volhard Nutrition List Owner

Poultney, Vermont

http://www.barkingbear.com

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One more thought then...

Seeding a good mixture of legumes and native grasses and putting a couple of

weaned calves and kids out to graze it is a very good first step toward

restoring most land... If it's really depleted of minerals, it will need

additional help. The amount of organic material and fixed nitrogen in the

topsoil is going to be critical no matter what though, and that should be

able to be addressed with the legume grass mixture...especially with a

couple of cute critters out there encouraging it to keep growing by chewing

it up, breaking it down and dropping it back onto the soil. Supplement

their minerals by offering them plenty of kelp meal and you might even

succeed in putting some minerals back into the soil as you go too...

All right, I'll go switch to decaf for awhile now...

Minneapolis

-----Original Message-----

From: Bethanne Elion [mailto:knitnewf@...]

Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:08 AM

Subject: RE: raw milk and diapers

>Bethanne,

>

>Just a thought, but if you find that there are others in your area that are

>interested getting real milk, you might be able to expedite your plans to

>get your own livestock by entering into milk-share type program with them.

>A single cow these days generally produces a lot of milk when she's

>lactating, but then there's a lot of time when she's not lactating too.

>Providing consistent milk for yourself *might* actually be easier if you

>have multiple cows in rotating lactation and some people to share the

excess

>milk as well as the setup costs with.

>

>I'm really hyper about the idea of milk-share programs right now, so I

might

>just be overzealous...

Hello ,

Thank-you for your brain storming. I love thinking minds! There is

more involved than just having cows for me. I feel that my soil needs

to be upgraded and I need to have some testing done to be sure I am

not getting any run off from the two farms - one next door and one

down the way. I shouldn't be by how the water flows but i have

learned never to assume anything. As I am sitting here in my

upstairs loft room i am watching one of these farmers break the law

by putting out that liquid manure onto one of the fields. Here in

Vermont they are not allowed to do that until the Spring run off.

I have 10.1 acres here and some of it was used to grow corn for 15 or

so years. That field needs to be brought back to life. This may

sound odd but somehow I feel like I was given this land to do just

that. Breathe life back into it. It is a very pretty piece of land

and some is doing very well.

--

Warm Regards,

Bethanne Elion

Volhard Nutrition List Owner

Poultney, Vermont

http://www.barkingbear.com

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