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> i was just prescribed darvocet for the passing of a kidney stone. has

> anyone on LDN taken it? it is a synthetic opiate known as an opioid.

> it is a narcotic pain reliever though. best to all,

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> joanna

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LDN can possibly lessen the effect of the darvocet and if darvocet is taken

during the time LDN is working the LDN could block all the effects of darvocet.

If you are only going to be using the darvocet for a day or two you might skip

two nights of LDN to get the full effect of the darvocet.

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Hi Joanna,

If you are also taking DLP, then you may wish to stop for a while as I think

you should not take it with opiates. (please correct me anyone, if that is

not correct).

Aletha

[low dose naltrexone] Re: pain medication

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> two you might skip two nights of LDN to get the full effect of the

> darvocet.

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Hi ,

I have tried and still do heat ect.. The Lidocaine patches I haven't.

How come the Lidocaine isn't blocked? I thought it was absorbed

through the skin into the blood stream? Or am thinking of something

else. I could be ya know! Lol!

Thanks

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After walking for a couple of hours my feet really start to get

painful.I am taking an Aleve gel cab with not much results. What each

can I use. Do any of you take prescrition pain meds for this condition?

Thanks for your help.

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hi i do i take " dilaudid " i started out at 2 mg tabs then weny up to 4 mg tabs

now im on 8 mg tabs i take up to 8 a day it is a narcotic pain medication but it

works wonders

Roxanne

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Isn't phenylalanine the same as aspartame? My daughter and I both

have many side effect from ingesting aspartame. I know it's a food

that's why it's in so many products and I do know that there are

health risks from taking aspartame.

I suffer from Dysmenorrhea and there's not much that can be done to

stop this kind of pain. Luckily it's not everyday. Since my exposure

my pain has intensified ten-fold. Before exposure I was able to take

Motrin 600mg and continue on with my day uninterrupted but after

exposure all the pain medications stopped working. I believe the

neurotransmitters in my system have been greatly affected by the

exposure and my nerves have been damaged so when I have this pain it

feels as if something is ripping inside my body. And since exposure

I've developed cysts and fibroids which only add to the pain and

problems.

I have sought treatment but there's not much that can be done except

try to control the pain or get rid of all the toxins and mycotoxins

in my system and that will be difficult because I'm consistently

being exposed and re-exposed.

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> > I am often in a " catch 22 " type of situation....

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No, its not at all.

Do a search for d, l-phenylalanine pain on PubMed

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

In my experience it has helped me with chronic kinds of pain, like

joint, muscle, hip and back pain..

Acupunct Electrother Res. 1982;7(2-3):157-72.

D-phenylalanine and other enkephalinase inhibitors as

pharmacological agents: implications for some important therapeutic

application.

Ehrenpreis S.

A number of compounds have been shown to inhibit the degradation

of enkephalins. As expected, these compounds produce naloxone

reversible analgesia and potentiate the analgesia produced by

enkephalins and by acupuncture. One of these, D-phenylalanine, is also

anti-inflammatory. D-phenylalanine has proven to be beneficial in many

human patients with chronic, intractable pain. It is proposed the

enkephalinase inhibitors may be effective in a number of human

" endorphin deficiency diseases " such as depression, schizophrenia,

convulsive disorders and arthritis. Such compounds may alleviate other

conditions associated with decreased endorphin levels such as opiate

withdrawal symptoms.

PMID: 6128872 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Prog Clin Biol Res. 1985;192:363-70.

Analgesic properties of enkephalinase inhibitors: animal and human studies.

Ehrenpreis S.

D-phenylalanine, bacitracin and puromycin produce long-lasting,

naloxone-reversible analgesia in mice. Analgesic potency parallels

potency of these compounds as inhibitors of met-enkephalin degradation

by mouse brain enzymes. D-phenylalanine potentiates acupuncture

analgesia in mice and humans and has been used to ameliorate a variety

of human chronic pain conditions.

Publication Types:

* Comparative Study

PMID: 2934746 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

AACN Clin Issues. 2005 Jul-Sep;16(3):291-301.

Related Articles, Links

Click here to read

The endogenous opioid system and clinical pain management.

Holden JE, Jeong Y, Forrest JM.

Department of Medical-Surgical Nursing, The University of Illinois

at Chicago, Illinois 60612-7350, USA. jeholden@...

The endogenous opioid system is one of the most studied innate

pain-relieving systems. This system consists of widely scattered

neurons that produce three opioids: beta-endorphin, the met- and

leu-enkephalins, and the dynorphins. These opioids act as

neurotransmitters and neuromodulators at three major classes of

receptors, termed mu, delta, and kappa, and produce analgesia. Like

their endogenous counterparts, the opioid drugs, or opiates, act at

these same receptors to produce both analgesia and undesirable side

effects. This article examines some of the recent findings about the

opioid system, including interactions with other neurotransmitters,

the location and existence of receptor subtypes, and how this

information drives the search for better analgesics. We also consider

how an understanding of the opioid system affects clinical responses

to opiate administration and what the future may hold for improved

pain relief. The goal of this article is to assist clinicians to

develop pharmacological interventions that better meet their patient's

analgesic needs.

Publication Types:

* Research Support, N.I.H., Extramural

* Research Support, U.S. Gov't, P.H.S.

* Review

PMID: 16082232 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:21 PM, gsgrl2000 <gsgrl2000@...> wrote:

> Isn't phenylalanine the same as aspartame? My daughter and I both

> have many side effect from ingesting aspartame. I know it's a food

> that's why it's in so many products and I do know that there are

> health risks from taking aspartame.

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I was just trying to understand the diferences between d-

phenylalanien, l- phenylalanine and aspartame (which contains

phenylalanine)...... I never suggested that you were telling me to take

aspartame...

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

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> What are you trying to say? I was never suggesting you use aspartame.

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I'm sorry, I guess that's what I thought you were impying.

Or that they were the same.

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:44 AM, gsgrl2000 <gsgrl2000@...> wrote:

> I was just trying to understand the diferences between d-

> phenylalanien, l- phenylalanine and aspartame (which contains

> phenylalanine)...... I never suggested that you were telling me to take

> aspartame...

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>> What are you trying to say? I was never suggesting you use aspartame.

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