Re:Bartonella, Speech, cod liver oil and Cumanda..Dr Zhang

September 12, 2008

http://www.steveclarknd.com/LymeDisease.htm

Lyme disease is a confusing, potentially chronic and debilitating

disease.

There is plenty of information regarding chronic Lyme disease

available for public access. One of the difficulties with respect to

treatment is that there are two standards of care. The Center for

Disease Control (CDC) and Infectious Disease Society recommend short

courses of antibiotics, and then assume the infections are treated

and resolved. In many cases, this is enough of a treatment for a

complete recovery. Other practitioners use a much longer antibiotic

approach, with integrative treatments. These groups include the

International Lyme and Associated Diseases Society (ILADS/Ilads.org),

of which I'm a member.

Unfortunately, there are some people who don't have complete recovery

from a short course of antibiotics. There may be many reasons for

this treatment failure. Most likely the problem is a combination of

inappropriate immune response and the Lyme organisms' (Borrelia)

ability to evade the antibiotic treatment, which it does by forming

cysts, hiding in your cells or changing forms. If the antibiotics

were enough to completely kill the infection, you should be symptom

free. If the antibiotics were not able to kill the infection

completely, your immune system responded incorrectly, or you have

multiple infections (called co-infections), and your Lyme disease

will become chronic which is an extremely difficult thing to treat.

To compound matters, testing for Lyme disease is controversial and

potentially inaccurate. It's estimated that 35% of Lyme disease cases

are missed with standard testing (www. Ilads.org, 4/16/06), and there

is NO follow-up test to determine if the treatment has been

successful. If you had the classic " bulls eye rash " (erythema

chronicum migrans), you can be certain you have been exposed to

Borrelia, but only 50% of people at most get the rash! Other

indicators include Bell's Palsy, migrating muscle and joint pains

especially when in concert with heart problems and neurological

problems. I strongly suggest getting appropriate testing, which

includes an IgG and IgM Western Blot test from IgeneX labs

(Igenex.com). Please keep in mind the testing isn't 100% accurate!

You should read more about testing on IgeneX's website on the

publication page.

I use natural treatments for most conditions, but I feel antibiotics

are an integral part of successful treatment for Lyme disease.

However, I do not believe antibiotics are enough for everyone. Some

cases of Lyme disease require longer courses of antibiotics and

supplemental treatments to facilitate the action of the antibiotic

and reduce the effects the Borrelia and co-infections. Most people

don't know what group they fall into, so I feel that aggressive

treatment is a good idea initially. Inappropriately short courses of

antibiotics, or other treatments like steroids, often drive Lyme into

defensive positions and cause chronic disease.

As I mentioned, I consider antibiotic use for Lyme critical, but I

also think there is MORE that needs to be done, at the same time, to

make sure the treatment is successful, especially if you've been

treating and living with chronic Lyme disease. Treating adrenal and

thyroid health, heavy metal toxicity, immune balance, nerve function,

heart health, mental function and many other aspects of the Lyme

complex is necessary to reduce and resolve your symptoms. I suggest

using a Lyme literate doctor, or better yet, a Lyme literate

Naturopath to help you with this complicated treatment. Referrals for

Lyme-literate physicians may be obtained by emailing

kimuffleman@... or from the Lyme Disease Association

(1.).

A common issue in treating Lyme is the Herxheimer reaction. This is a

phenomenon that happens when treating spirochetes (spiral-shaped

bacteria like Borrelia) and can be summed up thusly: you get worse

before you get better! Often symptoms get much worse in 3-week cycles

while treating Lyme. This is due to the organisms dying off and is

related to Borrelia's lifecycle. Whether you are treating Lyme

disease with antibiotics OR natural treatments, you should expect to

get worse in the process before you get better. What usually happens

is that people report they are feeling " the best they've felt in a

long time " for 3 weeks, then " the Herx reaction " hits and they feel

very poorly again. Often the Herx reactions come and go. One way to

know your treatment is done is that you don't have Herx reactions for

2-3 months. You may be treating yourself for 6 months to 1 year or

more before you get to this point.

I've researched alternative therapies for Lyme for many years now.

I've come to the conclusion that it's essential to treat all aspects

of your ill health to get the greatest improvement. Since Borrelia

can take different forms in your body, I suggest using various

antibiotics that have the potential to access each of the defensive

positions of Lyme.

The Zhang formula, developed by Dr. Qincia Zhang, is a combination

modern Chinese medicine treatment protocol designed to kill Lyme and

its co-infections, as well as support various organ systems in

healing. Dr. Zhang is currently writing and publishing a book

regarding the treatment of Lyme disease with his formulas. Dr.

Zhang's protocol includes some of the steps I consider necessary to

treat Lyme disease. All of the information about the Zhang protocol

is adapted from Dr. Zhang's information. Please stay tuned, as the

book will be available soon!

Dr. Zhang's reported efficacy:

60% total resolution of Lyme disease

20% resolution only with continued treatment

20% no change in symptoms and no improvement

Please keep in mind that treating the infection as early as possible

is really what needs to happen. Antibiotics or the Zhang protocol (I

recommend both together) can be highly effective in the first few

weeks of the infection. But, during the first few weeks, the labs are

almost always negative, so you have to treat presumptively. Several

months of antibiotics and/or the Zhang protocol will resolve most

acute infections. Perhaps shorter courses of antibiotics or Zhang

will be equally effective, but I treat aggressively, because I want

to know the infection is gone before stopping the treatment.

The steps to treat Lyme disease include:

1) Using antimicrobials to kill Borrelia and the various co-

infections. This MUST include antimicrobials that can work inside and

outside cell membranes as well as against the various forms the Lyme

disease can take.

2) Reduce inflammation and immune related damage caused by

Borrelia's ability to alter your immune system

3) Increase circulation to infected areas, because inflammatory

modulators produced by Lyme disease reduce circulation to the

organism and render the antimicrobials less effective, simply because

they can't get where they are needed.

4) Balance the immune response, because inappropriate immune

cellular response triggered by Borrelia can cause severe damage.

5) Support and resolve side effects of Lyme disease to reduce

stress on your system, which in turns reduces your immune function

(see adrenal treatments)

6) Remove and treat any pathologies that were created during or

exaggerated by Lyme. This can include heavy metal toxicity, thyroid

damage, nerve damage…

7) Resolve fungal issues that occur with chronic antibiotic

treatments.

Zhang protocol treatments:

Please see the flow chart after this section to understand and

evaluate your treatment needs.

Treatment essentials for the infections:

Allicin: Allicin and HH are used together as a first line of

treatment. Allicin is a specific extract of garlic which has high

antimicrobial properties and can cross the Blood Brain Barrier. The

capsules contain Allitridi, which is metabolized to Allicin which is

chemically stable and won't last in capsule form. If you have a

sensitivity to garlic, do not use Allicin, instead use R-5081, Coptis

and HH. Allicin does make you smell exquisitely like garlic. You can

try a chlorophyll supplement to reduce this effect. If the odor is

disruptive to your life, then you should also use R-5081, HH and

Coptis (i.e. in place of Allicin).

HH Capsule: Used in combination with the Allicin capsule. This

capsule has wide spectrum antimicrobial effects and can be used

safely for long term treatments. HH is also anti-fungal and can

reduce the risk of Candida infection from long term anti-microbial

use.

Coptis: Used in combination with Allicin, HH, and R-5081, depending

on your protocol. Also a broad spectrum antimicrobial. Same

description as HH.

R-5081: This is a traditional Chinese medicine formula that has been

used to treat syphilis for hundreds of years. Since syphilis and

Borrelia are both spirochetes, the same treatment is employed. R-5081

can be up to 50% effective in syphilis even in chronic cases. R-5081

is also a broad spectrum antimicrobial, including antifungal. If you

can't use garlic (Allicin) replace those caps with R-5081 and Coptis.

Circulation P: This is a must for all Lyme treatments because it

increases blood flow to cells, and helps to repair inflammation-

damaged tissues. It also helps your immune cells clean up the

inflammatory proteins that settle and cause more damage.

Arteminisin: Artemisia is an anti-malarial herbal treatment that has

efficacy toward Babesiosis (one of the common co-infections). You

should treat Babesiosis for at least 2-3 months with Arteminisin. The

antibiotic treatment for Babesiosis should be atovaquone and

azithromycin or clindamycin and oral quinine. If present, Babesiosis

must be treated or the Lyme treatment will not be effective. The most

common symptom of babesiosis is night sweats, sweats in general,

fever, chills, fatigue, headaches, muscle pain and anemia. Keep in

mind that you must be diagnosed correctly, since cancer can also

cause night sweats. You should always be working with a Lyme literate

practitioner.

Supplemental treatments to help with symptoms:

AI #3: An immune suppressive treatment that reduces the symptoms of

muscle aches, joint pain, fibromyalgia, skin rashes, allergies,

vasculitis, severe Herxheimer reactions, Raynaud's, Sjrogren's and

autoimmune antibody production. The max dose is 5 caps/day. Once the

symptoms subside the dose is reduced to 1 cap 3X/day. When symptoms

are relieved, then AI#3 should be discontinued. AI#3 should not be

used for more than 3 months.

Cordyceps: Fatigue is a chronic problem in people with Lyme.

Cordyceps mushroom helps improve energy level, increases circulation

and enhances immunity. Cordyceps has an interesting history.

Previously it was only found above 10,000 feet, in the snow, on the

back of a caterpillar. This made Cordyceps the treatment of kings,

due to its rarity and cost. Now Cordyceps is grown in culture and can

bring wonderful healing to us peasants!

Puerarin: Increases brain function and helps with the brain fog some

patients experience.

HerbSom: A natural, gentle, effective and non-addictive sleep aid

which doesn't cause drowsiness in the morning.

The flow chart for the Zhang formula (from Dr. Zhang):

VII-1: Herbal Remedies Developed by and Used in the Zhang Clinic

Herbal Formula Intake Guide

AI #3 Capsule

One capsule three times a day with meals; or for higher dosage, two

in the morning, one at noon, and two in the evening.

Caution: This capsule should only be used for reducing the severity

of Herxheimer's reaction, or for joint pain, skin rash, autoimmune

reactions, and allergies. It should be stopped after these symptoms

are no longer present. The treatment course with this herbal remedy

should be limited to three months. If treatment must be resumed, wait

at least one months before resuming use.

Allicin Capsule

Two to three capsules (dependent on body weight, 2mg of

allitridi/kg/day) three times a day, with meals. * see below

Artemisia Capsule

One capsule three times a day before meals.

Circulation P

Capsule

One capsule three times a day before meals.

Coptis Capsule

Two capsules three times a day before meals.

Cordyceps Capsule

Two capsules three times a day before meals.

R-5081 Capsule

Two capsules three times a day before meals.

HerbSom Capsule

Two capsules at bedtime.

HH Capsule

One capsule three times a day before meals.

Puerarin Capsule

Two capsules three times a day before meals.

Allicin dosage by body weight

Weight in pounds

Morning

Afternoon

Evening

Less than 120

2

121-140

2

3

2

141-160

2

3

161-180

3

181-200

3

4

201-220

3

4

Greater than 220

4

Note: I commonly recommend combining Allicin with R-5081 and Coptis.

In which case 2 caps 3X/day of the Allicin regardless of weight, and

then follow the recommendations for the other treatments.

Keep in mind that Doctor does schedule phone appointments. You

may want to have a phone appointment before starting your integrative

Lyme treatment.

Ordering info:

We are accepting phone and fax orders, paid for by credit card.

Please call the office for alternative arrangements. Our fax line is

secure.

Phone:

Fax: . Including mailing address, credit card number,

order details (product and quantity), phone number.

Zhang protocol supplies and cost for 30 days:

Standard protocol:

Allicin: 3 bottles: #60/bottle $33 each X

3 bottles = $99

HH: 1 bottle #45/bottle $27 each

X 2 bottles = $54

Circ P: 1 bottle #45/bottle $28 each

X 2 bottles = $56

Total $209 + S & H

Non-garlic protocol:

R5081: 4 bottles #45/bottle $33/bottle

X 4 bottles =$132

Coptis: 2 bottles #90/bottle

$30/bottle X 2 bottles =$60

HH: 1 bottle #45/bottle

$27/bottle X 2 bottles =$54

Circ. P: 1 bottle #45/bottle

$28/bottle X 2 bottles =$56

Total $302 + S & H

Additional treatment for Babesiosis:

Artemisiae: 3 bottles #30/bottle $29/bottle

X 3 bottles =$87

Optional symptomatic treatment as needed basis:

Puerarian: mental

function #90/bottle

$27 each

Herb Som

Sleep

#60/bottle $26 each

AI #3 Immune suppressant/Herx reactions

#50/bottle $33 each

webmaster@...

September 12, 2008

How I love this group! Thank you, Kristie.

Does anyone has a link to purchase Dr. Zhang's herbal products at a discount

price?

Limin

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Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 11:07

To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

Subject: Re:Bartonella, Speech, cod

liver oil and Cumanda..Dr Zhang

> http://www.steveclarknd.com/LymeDisease.htm

>

> Lyme disease is a confusing, potentially chronic and debilitating

> disease.

>

> There is plenty of information regarding chronic Lyme disease

> available for public access. One of the difficulties with respect to

> treatment is that there are two standards of care. The Center for

> Disease Control (CDC) and Infectious Disease Society recommend short

> courses of antibiotics, and then assume the infections are treated

> and resolved. In many cases, this is enough of a treatment for a

> complete recovery. Other practitioners use a much longer antibiotic

> approach, with integrative treatments. These groups include the

> International Lyme and Associated Diseases Society (ILADS/Ilads.org),

> of which I'm a member.

>

> Unfortunately, there are some people who don't have complete recovery

> from a short course of antibiotics. There may be many reasons for

> this treatment failure. Most likely the problem is a combination of

> inappropriate immune response and the Lyme organisms' (Borrelia)

> ability to evade the antibiotic treatment, which it does by forming

> cysts, hiding in your cells or changing forms. If the antibiotics

> were enough to completely kill the infection, you should be symptom

> free. If the antibiotics were not able to kill the infection

> completely, your immune system responded incorrectly, or you have

> multiple infections (called co-infections), and your Lyme disease

> will become chronic which is an extremely difficult thing to treat.

>

> To compound matters, testing for Lyme disease is controversial and

> potentially inaccurate. It's estimated that 35% of Lyme disease cases

> are missed with standard testing (www. Ilads.org, 4/16/06), and there

> is NO follow-up test to determine if the treatment has been

> successful. If you had the classic " bulls eye rash " (erythema

> chronicum migrans), you can be certain you have been exposed to

> Borrelia, but only 50% of people at most get the rash! Other

> indicators include Bell's Palsy, migrating muscle and joint pains

> especially when in concert with heart problems and neurological

> problems. I strongly suggest getting appropriate testing, which

> includes an IgG and IgM Western Blot test from IgeneX labs

> (Igenex.com). Please keep in mind the testing isn't 100% accurate!

> You should read more about testing on IgeneX's website on the

> publication page.

>

> I use natural treatments for most conditions, but I feel antibiotics

> are an integral part of successful treatment for Lyme disease.

> However, I do not believe antibiotics are enough for everyone. Some

> cases of Lyme disease require longer courses of antibiotics and

> supplemental treatments to facilitate the action of the antibiotic

> and reduce the effects the Borrelia and co-infections. Most people

> don't know what group they fall into, so I feel that aggressive

> treatment is a good idea initially. Inappropriately short courses of

> antibiotics, or other treatments like steroids, often drive Lyme into

> defensive positions and cause chronic disease.

>

> As I mentioned, I consider antibiotic use for Lyme critical, but I

> also think there is MORE that needs to be done, at the same time, to

> make sure the treatment is successful, especially if you've been

> treating and living with chronic Lyme disease. Treating adrenal and

> thyroid health, heavy metal toxicity, immune balance, nerve function,

> heart health, mental function and many other aspects of the Lyme

> complex is necessary to reduce and resolve your symptoms. I suggest

> using a Lyme literate doctor, or better yet, a Lyme literate

> Naturopath to help you with this complicated treatment. Referrals for

> Lyme-literate physicians may be obtained by emailing

> kimuffleman@... or from the Lyme Disease Association

> (1.).

>

> A common issue in treating Lyme is the Herxheimer reaction. This is a

> phenomenon that happens when treating spirochetes (spiral-shaped

> bacteria like Borrelia) and can be summed up thusly: you get worse

> before you get better! Often symptoms get much worse in 3-week cycles

> while treating Lyme. This is due to the organisms dying off and is

> related to Borrelia's lifecycle. Whether you are treating Lyme

> disease with antibiotics OR natural treatments, you should expect to

> get worse in the process before you get better. What usually happens

> is that people report they are feeling " the best they've felt in a

> long time " for 3 weeks, then " the Herx reaction " hits and they feel

> very poorly again. Often the Herx reactions come and go. One way to

> know your treatment is done is that you don't have Herx reactions for

> 2-3 months. You may be treating yourself for 6 months to 1 year or

> more before you get to this point.

>

> I've researched alternative therapies for Lyme for many years now.

> I've come to the conclusion that it's essential to treat all aspects

> of your ill health to get the greatest improvement. Since Borrelia

> can take different forms in your body, I suggest using various

> antibiotics that have the potential to access each of the defensive

> positions of Lyme.

>

> The Zhang formula, developed by Dr. Qincia Zhang, is a combination

> modern Chinese medicine treatment protocol designed to kill Lyme and

> its co-infections, as well as support various organ systems in

> healing. Dr. Zhang is currently writing and publishing a book

> regarding the treatment of Lyme disease with his formulas. Dr.

> Zhang's protocol includes some of the steps I consider necessary to

> treat Lyme disease. All of the information about the Zhang protocol

> is adapted from Dr. Zhang's information. Please stay tuned, as the

> book will be available soon!

>

> Dr. Zhang's reported efficacy:

>

> 60% total resolution of Lyme disease

>

> 20% resolution only with continued treatment

>

> 20% no change in symptoms and no improvement

>

> Please keep in mind that treating the infection as early as possible

> is really what needs to happen. Antibiotics or the Zhang protocol (I

> recommend both together) can be highly effective in the first few

> weeks of the infection. But, during the first few weeks, the labs are

> almost always negative, so you have to treat presumptively. Several

> months of antibiotics and/or the Zhang protocol will resolve most

> acute infections. Perhaps shorter courses of antibiotics or Zhang

> will be equally effective, but I treat aggressively, because I want

> to know the infection is gone before stopping the treatment.

>

> The steps to treat Lyme disease include:

>

> 1) Using antimicrobials to kill Borrelia and the various co-

> infections. This MUST include antimicrobials that can work inside and

> outside cell membranes as well as against the various forms the Lyme

> disease can take.

>

> 2) Reduce inflammation and immune related damage caused by

> Borrelia's ability to alter your immune system

>

> 3) Increase circulation to infected areas, because inflammatory

> modulators produced by Lyme disease reduce circulation to the

> organism and render the antimicrobials less effective, simply because

> they can't get where they are needed.

>

> 4) Balance the immune response, because inappropriate immune

> cellular response triggered by Borrelia can cause severe damage.

>

> 5) Support and resolve side effects of Lyme disease to reduce

> stress on your system, which in turns reduces your immune function

> (see adrenal treatments)

>

> 6) Remove and treat any pathologies that were created during or

> exaggerated by Lyme. This can include heavy metal toxicity, thyroid

> damage, nerve damage.

>

> 7) Resolve fungal issues that occur with chronic antibiotic

> treatments.

>

> Zhang protocol treatments:

>

> Please see the flow chart after this section to understand and

> evaluate your treatment needs.

>

> Treatment essentials for the infections:

>

> Allicin: Allicin and HH are used together as a first line of

> treatment. Allicin is a specific extract of garlic which has high

> antimicrobial properties and can cross the Blood Brain Barrier. The

> capsules contain Allitridi, which is metabolized to Allicin which is

> chemically stable and won't last in capsule form. If you have a

> sensitivity to garlic, do not use Allicin, instead use R-5081, Coptis

> and HH. Allicin does make you smell exquisitely like garlic. You can

> try a chlorophyll supplement to reduce this effect. If the odor is

> disruptive to your life, then you should also use R-5081, HH and

> Coptis (i.e. in place of Allicin).

>

> HH Capsule: Used in combination with the Allicin capsule. This

> capsule has wide spectrum antimicrobial effects and can be used

> safely for long term treatments. HH is also anti-fungal and can

> reduce the risk of Candida infection from long term anti-microbial

> use.

>

> Coptis: Used in combination with Allicin, HH, and R-5081, depending

> on your protocol. Also a broad spectrum antimicrobial. Same

> description as HH.

>

> R-5081: This is a traditional Chinese medicine formula that has been

> used to treat syphilis for hundreds of years. Since syphilis and

> Borrelia are both spirochetes, the same treatment is employed. R-5081

> can be up to 50% effective in syphilis even in chronic cases. R-5081

> is also a broad spectrum antimicrobial, including antifungal. If you

> can't use garlic (Allicin) replace those caps with R-5081 and Coptis.

>

> Circulation P: This is a must for all Lyme treatments because it

> increases blood flow to cells, and helps to repair inflammation-

> damaged tissues. It also helps your immune cells clean up the

> inflammatory proteins that settle and cause more damage.

>

> Arteminisin: Artemisia is an anti-malarial herbal treatment that has

> efficacy toward Babesiosis (one of the common co-infections). You

> should treat Babesiosis for at least 2-3 months with Arteminisin. The

> antibiotic treatment for Babesiosis should be atovaquone and

> azithromycin or clindamycin and oral quinine. If present, Babesiosis

> must be treated or the Lyme treatment will not be effective. The most

> common symptom of babesiosis is night sweats, sweats in general,

> fever, chills, fatigue, headaches, muscle pain and anemia. Keep in

> mind that you must be diagnosed correctly, since cancer can also

> cause night sweats. You should always be working with a Lyme literate

> practitioner.

>

> Supplemental treatments to help with symptoms:

>

> AI #3: An immune suppressive treatment that reduces the symptoms of

> muscle aches, joint pain, fibromyalgia, skin rashes, allergies,

> vasculitis, severe Herxheimer reactions, Raynaud's, Sjrogren's and

> autoimmune antibody production. The max dose is 5 caps/day. Once the

> symptoms subside the dose is reduced to 1 cap 3X/day. When symptoms

> are relieved, then AI#3 should be discontinued. AI#3 should not be

> used for more than 3 months.

>

> Cordyceps: Fatigue is a chronic problem in people with Lyme.

> Cordyceps mushroom helps improve energy level, increases circulation

> and enhances immunity. Cordyceps has an interesting history.

> Previously it was only found above 10,000 feet, in the snow, on the

> back of a caterpillar. This made Cordyceps the treatment of kings,

> due to its rarity and cost. Now Cordyceps is grown in culture and can

> bring wonderful healing to us peasants!

>

> Puerarin: Increases brain function and helps with the brain fog some

> patients experience.

>

> HerbSom: A natural, gentle, effective and non-addictive sleep aid

> which doesn't cause drowsiness in the morning.

>

> The flow chart for the Zhang formula (from Dr. Zhang):

>

> VII-1: Herbal Remedies Developed by and Used in the Zhang Clinic

>

> Herbal Formula Intake Guide

> AI #3 Capsule

> One capsule three times a day with meals; or for higher dosage, two

> in the morning, one at noon, and two in the evening.

>

> Caution: This capsule should only be used for reducing the severity

> of Herxheimer's reaction, or for joint pain, skin rash, autoimmune

> reactions, and allergies. It should be stopped after these symptoms

> are no longer present. The treatment course with this herbal remedy

> should be limited to three months. If treatment must be resumed, wait

> at least one months before resuming use.

>

> Allicin Capsule

> Two to three capsules (dependent on body weight, 2mg of

> allitridi/kg/day) three times a day, with meals. * see below

>

> Artemisia Capsule

> One capsule three times a day before meals.

>

> Circulation P

> Capsule

> One capsule three times a day before meals.

>

> Coptis Capsule

> Two capsules three times a day before meals.

>

> Cordyceps Capsule

> Two capsules three times a day before meals.

>

> R-5081 Capsule

> Two capsules three times a day before meals.

>

> HerbSom Capsule

> Two capsules at bedtime.

>

> HH Capsule

> One capsule three times a day before meals.

>

> Puerarin Capsule

> Two capsules three times a day before meals.

>

> Allicin dosage by body weight

> Weight in pounds

> Morning

> Afternoon

> Evening

>

> Less than 120

> 2

>

> 121-140

> 2

> 3

> 2

>

> 141-160

> 2

> 3

>

> 161-180

> 3

>

> 181-200

> 3

> 4

>

> 201-220

> 3

> 4

>

> Greater than 220

> 4

>

> Note: I commonly recommend combining Allicin with R-5081 and Coptis.

> In which case 2 caps 3X/day of the Allicin regardless of weight, and

> then follow the recommendations for the other treatments.

>

> Keep in mind that Doctor does schedule phone appointments. You

> may want to have a phone appointment before starting your integrative

> Lyme treatment.

>

> Ordering info:

> We are accepting phone and fax orders, paid for by credit card.

> Please call the office for alternative arrangements. Our fax line is

> secure.

> Phone:

> Fax: . Including mailing address, credit card number,

> order details (product and quantity), phone number.

>

> Zhang protocol supplies and cost for 30 days:

>

> Standard protocol:

>

> Allicin: 3 bottles: #60/bottle $33 each X

> 3 bottles = $99

>

> HH: 1 bottle #45/bottle $27 each

> X 2 bottles = $54

>

> Circ P: 1 bottle #45/bottle $28 each

> X 2 bottles = $56

>

> Total $209 + S & H

>

> Non-garlic protocol:

>

> R5081: 4 bottles #45/bottle $33/bottle

> X 4 bottles =$132

>

> Coptis: 2 bottles #90/bottle

> $30/bottle X 2 bottles =$60

>

> HH: 1 bottle #45/bottle

> $27/bottle X 2 bottles =$54

>

> Circ. P: 1 bottle #45/bottle

> $28/bottle X 2 bottles =$56

>

> Total $302 + S & H

>

> Additional treatment for Babesiosis:

>

> Artemisiae: 3 bottles #30/bottle $29/bottle

> X 3 bottles =$87

>

> Optional symptomatic treatment as needed basis:

>

> Puerarian: mental

> function #90/bottle

> $27 each

>

> Herb Som

> Sleep

> #60/bottle $26 each

>

> AI #3 Immune suppressant/Herx reactions

> #50/bottle $33 each

>

> webmaster@...

>

> ------------------------------------

>

September 12, 2008

We need to all band together and try to get all products from all

alternative docs at discount rates. How can we do this? Anyone have an

ND on this board or DO and willing to help us out? Or do you have a

physician friend willing to help us out?

Kristie

September 12, 2008

I can probably help on this one. E-mail me privately at greenecobean

at cox dot net. I have a way to do this.

Jane

>

> We need to all band together and try to get all products from all

> alternative docs at discount rates. How can we do this? Anyone have an

> ND on this board or DO and willing to help us out? Or do you have a

> physician friend willing to help us out?

>

> Kristie

>

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