Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 A good friend of mine is having trouble conceiving. Dana Milmeister responded to my direct question to her (thanks, Dana!) but suggested I post to the group as well for additional advice. My friend has been trying to have a baby for four years. She was a vegetarian during her teenage years, but has not been for 10 years. Doctors think that although she ovulates, her uterine lining does not build up well enough to support implantation. They suggested hormone therapy. To make matters worse for her, she received her diagnosis in Costa Rica, but is now in Switzerland and they have a very stringent (2 years of testing/waiting) fertility policy. To let her body do its own work, I recommended she start off with EFA's, fish oils, etc, and organ meats. Dana remarked that once she quit wheat and lowered her carb intake she became pregnant shortly afterwards. Can any of you offer additional input? Thanks much! Best regards, Nita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 I'd also recommend seeing a good acupuncturist. Sometimes it works amazingly well for fertility problems. -----Original Message----- From: nita_stull [mailto:nita_stull@...] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 1:05 PM Subject: fertility problems A good friend of mine is having trouble conceiving. Dana Milmeister responded to my direct question to her (thanks, Dana!) but suggested I post to the group as well for additional advice. My friend has been trying to have a baby for four years. She was a vegetarian during her teenage years, but has not been for 10 years. Doctors think that although she ovulates, her uterine lining does not build up well enough to support implantation. They suggested hormone therapy. To make matters worse for her, she received her diagnosis in Costa Rica, but is now in Switzerland and they have a very stringent (2 years of testing/waiting) fertility policy. To let her body do its own work, I recommended she start off with EFA's, fish oils, etc, and organ meats. Dana remarked that once she quit wheat and lowered her carb intake she became pregnant shortly afterwards. Can any of you offer additional input? Thanks much! Best regards, Nita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 >> Dana remarked that once she quit wheat and lowered her carb intake she became pregnant shortly afterwards. << Ditto - after two babies conceived as soon as opportunity presented itself, I was puzzled that I didn't conceive for nearly 18 months when I started my cycle after #2 was born. Two WEEKS after starting the Atkins diet (induction phase with severely low carbs), I was pregnant again! ~ Carma ~ To be perpetually talking sense runs out the mind, as perpetually ploughing and taking crops runs out the land. The mind must be manured, and nonsense is very good for the purpose. ~ Boswell Carma's Corner: http://www.users.qwest.net/~carmapaden/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 We have heard so many similar reports of women changing their diets and getting pregnant after trying unsuccessfully all of the western medical approaches. You'd think word would get back to the docs. While of course diet should be the first thing for an infertile couple to change, I just got a back issue of Explore magazine from last year that has a fascinating article on geopathic stress and fertility. It discusses how people can be seriously adversely affected by improper positioning of their beds, bedrooms, or entire houses with respect to the landscape. The author, an ND from Germany, describes a study of infertile people which showed quite remarkable rises in fertility when geopathic stress in their homes was addressed. If anyone wants to look into it further, it is Vol. 10 #6. Cheers, > >> Dana remarked that once she > quit wheat and lowered her carb intake she became pregnant shortly > afterwards. << > > Ditto - after two babies conceived as soon as opportunity presented > itself, I was puzzled that I didn't conceive for nearly 18 months when I > started my cycle after #2 was born. Two WEEKS after starting the Atkins > diet (induction phase with severely low carbs), I was pregnant again! > > ~ Carma ~ > > To be perpetually talking sense runs out the mind, as perpetually > ploughing and taking crops runs out the land. The mind must be manured, > and nonsense is very good for the purpose. ~ Boswell > > Carma's Corner: http://www.users.qwest.net/~carmapaden/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 Dear Nita, Here's my two cents on this. Firstly all the responses you've gotten are excellent in their own right. In clinical practice I have been accused of getting more than several women pregnant. Obviously it's always tounge and cheek. I would say that it would be unusual to not alter fertility by radical dietary changes. However your friend poses a particular issue in being long time vegetarian, now I don't know exactly what that entailed for her however she runs the risk of being very deficient nutritionally, and you may rest assured if those reserves are not high enough her body will be smart enough not to reproduce. So more often than not in serious infertility cases supplementation along with the dietary changes are necessary. The supplementation is as necessary when the couple is not in a hurry. However if timing is a concern, supplementation will restore reserves much faster in addition to dietary issues. Bottom line is its about getting as much high quality food nutrients in her as quickly as possible to restore the reserves so her body is comfortable with the burden of reproduction. If you should have any further questions please feel free to email me or have your friend email me I'm happy to help any way I can. Sincerely, Dr. Marasco,BS,DC Cincinnati, Oh > A good friend of mine is having trouble conceiving. Dana Milmeister > responded to my direct question to her (thanks, Dana!) but suggested > I post to the group as well for additional advice. > > My friend has been trying to have a baby for four years. She was a > vegetarian during her teenage years, but has not been for 10 years. > Doctors think that although she ovulates, her uterine lining does not > build up well enough to support implantation. They suggested hormone > therapy. To make matters worse for her, she received her diagnosis > in Costa Rica, but is now in Switzerland and they have a very > stringent (2 years of testing/waiting) fertility policy. > > To let her body do its own work, I recommended she start off with > EFA's, fish oils, etc, and organ meats. Dana remarked that once she > quit wheat and lowered her carb intake she became pregnant shortly > afterwards. > > Can any of you offer additional input? Thanks much! > > Best regards, > Nita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 Is your friend charting her fertility signals? Some doctors mistakenly tell the couple to have sex 14 days after period, rather than the woman learning to chart her cycle and identifying her ovulation herself. Also, some doctors tell the woman to have sex on the day their temperature shifts - if she is charting her cycle. This is also incorrect, as usually, ovulation has already occurred. She should check out a book by Toni Weschler called Taking Charge of Your Fertility. Be sure and get the new, updated one. It has all the information one needs to learn how to chart one's ovulation cycle using basil body temperature, mucus signals and cervix placement. " Regular " Doctors and fertility seem to be me to be a very inexact science, to put it mildly. I can't tell you how many women have stories about doctors telling them various " facts " about their fertility impairment and a myriad of other issues (like " correct " levels of various hormones, etc., and all sorts of tests) only to be completely proven wrong and the woman becomes pregnant. To the best of her ability, she should take responsibility for her own fertility, chart, learn her ovulation signals and make sure she is timing sex correctly. If she hasn't been doing this, then she really doesn't know if she has any problems yet. Does this make sense? And also you say: > To make matters worse for her, she received her diagnosis > in Costa Rica, but is now in Switzerland and they have a very > stringent (2 years of testing/waiting) fertility policy. This could be good - fertility drugs are very dangerous and full of toxic effects. She could turn this around into a 2 year time to work on her own, on her fertility. Of course as someone else said, I don't know her age and that could be a factor. Lynne (P.S. I used to teach fertility awareness. If she has any questions I can answer, I'll be happy to do so. But the book is great!) > A good friend of mine is having trouble conceiving. Dana Milmeister > responded to my direct question to her (thanks, Dana!) but suggested > I post to the group as well for additional advice. > > My friend has been trying to have a baby for four years. She was a > vegetarian during her teenage years, but has not been for 10 years. > Doctors think that although she ovulates, her uterine lining does not > build up well enough to support implantation. They suggested hormone > therapy. To make matters worse for her, she received her diagnosis > in Costa Rica, but is now in Switzerland and they have a very > stringent (2 years of testing/waiting) fertility policy. > > To let her body do its own work, I recommended she start off with > EFA's, fish oils, etc, and organ meats. Dana remarked that once she > quit wheat and lowered her carb intake she became pregnant shortly > afterwards. > > Can any of you offer additional input? Thanks much! > > Best regards, > Nita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 >Is your friend charting her fertility signals? Some doctors >mistakenly tell the couple to have sex 14 days after period, rather >than the woman learning to chart her cycle and identifying her >ovulation herself. Yes, I know of someone who found out she ovulates during her menstral cycle!! Grace, a Augustine I wish you enough sun to keep your attitude bright. I wish you enough rain to appreciate the sun more. I wish you enough happiness to keep your spirit alive. I wish you enough pain so that the smallest joys in life appear much bigger. I wish you enough gain to satisfy your wanting. I wish you enough loss to appreciate all that you possess. I wish you enough ''Hello's " to get you through the final goodbye. --anonymous ----- Original Message ----- From: origins56 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:22 AM Subject: Re: fertility problems Also, some doctors tell the woman to have sex on the day their temperature shifts - if she is charting her cycle. This is also incorrect, as usually, ovulation has already occurred. She should check out a book by Toni Weschler called Taking Charge of Your Fertility. Be sure and get the new, updated one. It has all the information one needs to learn how to chart one's ovulation cycle using basil body temperature, mucus signals and cervix placement. " Regular " Doctors and fertility seem to be me to be a very inexact science, to put it mildly. I can't tell you how many women have stories about doctors telling them various " facts " about their fertility impairment and a myriad of other issues (like " correct " levels of various hormones, etc., and all sorts of tests) only to be completely proven wrong and the woman becomes pregnant. To the best of her ability, she should take responsibility for her own fertility, chart, learn her ovulation signals and make sure she is timing sex correctly. If she hasn't been doing this, then she really doesn't know if she has any problems yet. Does this make sense? And also you say: > To make matters worse for her, she received her diagnosis > in Costa Rica, but is now in Switzerland and they have a very > stringent (2 years of testing/waiting) fertility policy. This could be good - fertility drugs are very dangerous and full of toxic effects. She could turn this around into a 2 year time to work on her own, on her fertility. Of course as someone else said, I don't know her age and that could be a factor. Lynne (P.S. I used to teach fertility awareness. If she has any questions I can answer, I'll be happy to do so. But the book is great!) > A good friend of mine is having trouble conceiving. Dana Milmeister > responded to my direct question to her (thanks, Dana!) but suggested > I post to the group as well for additional advice. > > My friend has been trying to have a baby for four years. She was a > vegetarian during her teenage years, but has not been for 10 years. > Doctors think that although she ovulates, her uterine lining does not > build up well enough to support implantation. They suggested hormone > therapy. To make matters worse for her, she received her diagnosis > in Costa Rica, but is now in Switzerland and they have a very > stringent (2 years of testing/waiting) fertility policy. > > To let her body do its own work, I recommended she start off with > EFA's, fish oils, etc, and organ meats. Dana remarked that once she > quit wheat and lowered her carb intake she became pregnant shortly > afterwards. > > Can any of you offer additional input? Thanks much! > > Best regards, > Nita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 Do you know how she figured that out? mucus, charting or what? Lynne >ovulation herself. > > Yes, I know of someone who found out she ovulates during her menstral cycle!! > > Grace, > a Augustine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 She used an Ovulation tester from the doctor. Grace, a Augustine I wish you enough sun to keep your attitude bright. I wish you enough rain to appreciate the sun more. I wish you enough happiness to keep your spirit alive. I wish you enough pain so that the smallest joys in life appear much bigger. I wish you enough gain to satisfy your wanting. I wish you enough loss to appreciate all that you possess. I wish you enough ''Hello's " to get you through the final goodbye. --anonymous ----- Original Message ----- From: origins56 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 7:44 PM Subject: Re: fertility problems Do you know how she figured that out? mucus, charting or what? Lynne >ovulation herself. > > Yes, I know of someone who found out she ovulates during her menstral cycle!! > > Grace, > a Augustine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 LOL I'd like to find out how to position my furniture so I don't get pregnant. Marcella >From: " radlife2002 " <radiantlife@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: fertility problems >Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 22:44:25 -0000 > >We have heard so many similar reports of women changing their diets >and getting pregnant after trying unsuccessfully all of the western >medical approaches. You'd think word would get back to the docs. > >While of course diet should be the first thing for an infertile >couple to change, I just got a back issue of Explore magazine from >last year that has a fascinating article on geopathic stress and >fertility. It discusses how people can be seriously adversely >affected by improper positioning of their beds, bedrooms, or entire >houses with respect to the landscape. The author, an ND from >Germany, describes a study of infertile people which showed quite >remarkable rises in fertility when geopathic stress in their homes >was addressed. > >If anyone wants to look into it further, it is Vol. 10 #6. > >Cheers, > > > > > > >> Dana remarked that once she > > quit wheat and lowered her carb intake she became pregnant shortly > > afterwards. << > > > > Ditto - after two babies conceived as soon as opportunity presented > > itself, I was puzzled that I didn't conceive for nearly 18 months >when I > > started my cycle after #2 was born. Two WEEKS after starting the >Atkins > > diet (induction phase with severely low carbs), I was pregnant >again! > > > > ~ Carma ~ > > > > To be perpetually talking sense runs out the mind, as perpetually > > ploughing and taking crops runs out the land. The mind must be >manured, > > and nonsense is very good for the purpose. ~ Boswell > > > > Carma's Corner: http://www.users.qwest.net/~carmapaden/ > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Good Morning! I have a friend who is a DES daughter who has had a plethora of miscarriages. As for infertility...my husband and I have been " trying " for over 2 years to no avail. We agreed prior to marriage that we would not do anything " medical " to have babies...but are willing to try (almost) anything natural to conceive. Yes...infertitlity is heartbreaking.... 's Avery Conservative Christian Reading & More? http://www.dabscardsandmore.com Tupperware for Your Everyday http://my.tupperware.com/mrsbernstein Be Pampered in Your Kitchen! Email me about earning FREE Pampered Chef! --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1ยข/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 > > but are willing to try (almost) anything natural to conceive. > > Yes...infertitlity is heartbreaking.... > > 's Avery > > > Don't know if you have heard of Pope VI institute, but it is on the cutting edge of infertility issues. They are really about getting to the reason why you can't concieve as opposed to the drug route. They have a better success rate then conventional methods also. I personally do not have infertility problems, but women that I have talked to after going through the program can't recommend them highly enough. I have also heard Dr. Hilgers several times on the radio and he is incredibly knowledgable and well spoken. http://www.naprotechnology.com/infertility.htm HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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