Re: Irish moss vs. carrageenan

[Guest guest]

>Does anyone know if the negative effects of carrageenan also pertain to

>Irish moss taken as I described above? How closely does carrageenan

>compare to Irish moss?

Carrageenan is actually used to create ulcerative cholitis in lab animals,

so I'd highly recommend avoiding it. There may well be beneficial

components in Irish moss, but I expect their impact is more than outweighed

by the harm done by the carrageenan.

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[Guest guest]

Lynn, The carageenan in Ray Peat's article is " degraded " meaning

partially hydrolyzed. Some speculate that similar degraded carageenan

may occur during digestion. Harm has not yet been proven to my

knowledge.

As for iron supplementation. You say you are eating what should be an

adequate supply. Are you eating sources of heme iron (meat source)?

Iron in vegetables is poorly absorbed. Also, do you have a chronic

infection of some kind? The body will limit blood iron to avoid

feeding the infection or diverting the immune system from it. Is your

hemoglobin in normal range? Is your ferritin in low normal range? If

so, you may want to leave it alone (protective against cancer). The

supplement you are taking is notorious for causing constipation due to

poor absorption. You may want to try significantly lower doses of

iron glycinate (or bis-glycinate) instead, or combine your iron

supplement with vitamin C. Else, eat some liver.

Perhaps a doctor on this list has other ideas and/or will correct me

if I'm wrong.

Portland, OR

> A Traditional Chinese Medicine practitioner recommended that I take

Irish moss (chondrus crispus) as a detoxifying agent and a good

nutritional source. I was directed to add 1 oz. of the dried Irish

moss to about a quart of boiling water and simmer it until the moss

had softened. I consume that quantity in one week.

>

> In Ray Peat's article " Food-Junk and Some Mystery Ailments " , a

Newsletter on Nutrition found at his web site www.efn.org/~raypeat/ ,

he states that carrageenan causes inflammatory bowel damage and should

be avoided. Carrageenan is an extract of Irish moss and is in the

gums family. I don't know how refined it is compared to Irish moss.

>

> Does anyone know if the negative effects of carrageenan also pertain

to Irish moss taken as I described above? How closely does

carrageenan compare to Irish moss? I find that the Irish moss really

helps with the constipation I have from iron supplementation I take

for very low serum ferritin. After 7 months, the iron supplementation

(27 g. ferrous sulfate daily) hasn't helped any. According to the

DWIDP diet planner, I get plenty of iron in my diet, from

non-fortified and unprocessed food sources. Any ideas on how to boost

my serum ferritin?

>

> Lynn

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

As is often the case Ray is right again on this one. Your bowels

move because it is so irritating. This is not a recommended practice.

As for your serum ferritin I obviously have not seen your blood

values and if the iron supp is what i think, you absolutely

positively need to find something else right fast. If you need

further discussion on this email me.

DR. MICHAEL MARASCO,BS,DC

CINCINNATI, OH

> A Traditional Chinese Medicine practitioner recommended that I take

Irish moss (chondrus crispus) as a detoxifying agent and a good

nutritional source. I was directed to add 1 oz. of the dried Irish

moss to about a quart of boiling water and simmer it until the moss

had softened. I consume that quantity in one week.

>

> In Ray Peat's article " Food-Junk and Some Mystery Ailments " , a

Newsletter on Nutrition found at his web site www.efn.org/~raypeat/ ,

he states that carrageenan causes inflammatory bowel damage and

should be avoided. Carrageenan is an extract of Irish moss and is in

the gums family. I don't know how refined it is compared to Irish

moss.

>

> Does anyone know if the negative effects of carrageenan also

pertain to Irish moss taken as I described above? How closely does

carrageenan compare to Irish moss? I find that the Irish moss really

helps with the constipation I have from iron supplementation I take

for very low serum ferritin. After 7 months, the iron

supplementation (27 g. ferrous sulfate daily) hasn't helped any.

According to the DWIDP diet planner, I get plenty of iron in my diet,

from non-fortified and unprocessed food sources. Any ideas on how to

boost my serum ferritin?

>

> Lynn

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lynn,

Liver sounds like a great way to supplement your iron levels, but, in case

it helps, I will say that, before I met NT, I was able to boost my

blood-iron levels during my first pregnancy by taking a yellow dock

tincture, which you can easily get at the health food store.

" Lynn McGaha "

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According to the DWIDP diet planner, I get plenty of iron in my diet, from

non-fortified and unprocessed food sources. Any ideas on how to boost my

serum ferritin?

Lynn

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