Re:Question again... Sorry!

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Some doctors believe in giving antivirals because they feel that reducing the viral load will allow one's own immune system to kick in and start doing its job. Well, this may be what's happening with your son. Anything you add to kill pathogens when he is already fighting them, may be too much. I guess everyone has their own style, but I like to ride things out when I feel the immune system in now kicking in. The usual procedure is when there is a plateau, then change things up. A plateau is like when they stop progressing and die-off is no longer apparent. Thus, keep an eye on him, see how things go. Is he having any improvements with these "sick symptoms"? My kids would get a mixture of improvements with die-off. But also, some worsening of symptoms. Its crazy trying to figure all this out. Its ok to treat for viruses first. None of us really know the answer. But, if something appears to be working, I stay with it and see what happens next. Hopefully, your doctor can help out with the reflux. I really don't have experience with Valtrex though, so I would ask around and see what other parents are seeing. There may be a pattern of die-off happening about 20 days in. My daughter is suppose to be starting Valtrex soon for Epstein Barr, so I guess I will get some experience in then.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

I have started this before my som is currently on Valtrex and the die-off is really knocking him out. I am sure there are now additional bacterial issues going on. He was amazing for the first 20+ days but all of a sudden things went south. He started having really bad die off, now keeps getting sick (had strep and ear infection), has a very acidic reflux, and complaining of a sore throat (but it's not red or swollen). I have been hearing so much about LDM-100 and talked to my son's DAN about it. I was inetersted in it because of its multiple healing properties (primarily the bacterial component). I sent him information on it and he was completely on board with it! Yeah!! But, he wants to Keep my son on the Valtrex as well. I am not so sure that's a good idea because of the severity of his die-off. He has not had he Valtrex for the past couple of days because I wanted to treat the die off. We have been doing charcoal twice daily to mop some of the stuff. I do not know if that was a good decision or not but I felt he needed a break.What is a good line a of denfense for bacteria and viruses.Anyway Heidi had mentioned order of healing is typically bacteria then viruses. Since we have already done OLE and Valtrex is the LDM-100 a good step or is there another antibacterial that would be better suited to a sensitive gut child. Also what are some good immune boosters?I am getting so many good suggestions but I get overwhelmed with so many different herbal sugggestions and I end up asking repeated so I am so sorry to keep bugging you guys! Just know that what I know and learn I pass on to other parents. I run a support group for autism alternatives in my state. I would love to get up to speed on this so I can pass it on. Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals!

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,

Please don't be sorry, and thank you for asking. It's best to ask

before you get in a bind. These treatments are so new and our kids

so sensitive that you need to ask a lot of questions and be

comfortable before plowing ahead.

My thoughts, our doctors have NOT recommended doing Valtrex with LDM-

100. LDM-100 is strong on it's own. Valtrex can stress the liver

enough on it's own as well. See DA's TACA presentation, Valtrex is

at the bottom of the list to help with virals...and she knows them

both well. I would take a break from Valtrex and clean up the gut,

support the liver and kidneys and get his immune system back. It

sounds like his body is fighting a lot with both Valtrex and

bacterial issues.

I just have to say this...do you know a good muscle tester that

could test the anti-virals and anti-bacterials listed on DA's TACA

presentation. If you could find a really good muscle tester they

could tell you what treatment would be best for him right now.

Even with the LDM-100, once the immune system kicks in, you could

end up needing additional homeopathic, herbal or other detox

supports on board to keep the system detoxing appropriately and

limiting your regressive issues.

I had started and was very successfully doing the LDM-100 when I put

off seeing DA in my second round. I ended up getting bit letting a

viral issue get ahead of me. He had this big increase in OCD

behavior and this horrible lips licking chapped lips thing that

turned his lips into chapped lips x10...1/2 inch all the way around

his lips...when I brought him in DA said classic viral flare up. She

had it under control within a few weeks and I've been in to see her

monthly since (it did not get away from me again). Once the immune

system kicks in, any number of layers can surface. It has taken LDM-

100 + many other homeopathics, herbals, binders, anti-virals like

OLE, L-lysine, upped yeast protocols, lasers...the list goes on to

tackle the layers. As the body clears a stress it moves forward the

next stress to be dealt with. A DAN! is good, adding a good muscle

tester adds a new diminsion on board that will reduce your costs of

wasted " let's try this one next " supplements/rx's and substantially

reduce your regressions with new treatments. A parent or good friend

can even do the muscle testing (I envy you Gayatri...I need to learn

too..but at least I have a good dr that I totally trust). If you

have a need for this and do not know anyone to help, if you are a

prayer...pray for that need to be met. God said he'd provide for our

needs...and this was on my list. He answered my prayers for this.

Also, Please don't go into your DAN! now and talk about muscle

testing this if he's not on board...just like anything else, if they

don't believe it, you'll just get flack back

Go through the LDM-100 Recap in the files, you will find the info on

the subsequent layers of Strep/Staph that our control group in WA

encountered (even on the LDM-100). Knowing the stimulated immune

response will more than likely occur no matter what anti-viral you

do, if the body wants it taken care you will have to take care of it.

So bottom line, I'd personally stop the Valtrex till you get the

bacterial and gut under control and stabalize the immune system. If

you do decide to go on the LDM-100, I'd leave at least 30 days rest

between Valtrex and the LDM-100. If you want to do an anti-viral in

between, do one of the other more mild immune supportive ones listed

on the presentation (like OLE, L-lysine etc).

Hope this brought up more answers than ?'s.

Rita

>

> :

>

> Some doctors believe in giving antivirals because they feel that

reducing

> the viral load will allow one's own immune system to kick in and

start doing its

> job. Well, this may be what's happening with your son. Anything

you add

> to kill pathogens when he is already fighting them, may be too

much. I guess

> everyone has their own style, but I like to ride things out when

I feel the

> immune system in now kicking in. The usual procedure is when

there is a

> plateau, then change things up. A plateau is like when they stop

progressing and

> die-off is no longer apparent. Thus, keep an eye on him, see how

things go.

> Is he having any improvements with these " sick symptoms " ? My

kids would get

> a mixture of improvements with die-off. But also, some worsening

of

> symptoms. Its crazy trying to figure all this out. Its ok to

treat for viruses

> first. None of us really know the answer. But, if something

appears to be

> working, I stay with it and see what happens next. Hopefully,

your doctor can

> help out with the reflux. I really don't have experience with

Valtrex though,

> so I would ask around and see what other parents are seeing.

There may be a

> pattern of die-off happening about 20 days in. My daughter is

suppose to be

> starting Valtrex soon for Epstein Barr, so I guess I will get

some experience

> in then.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

>

> I have started this before my som is currently on Valtrex and the

die-

> off is really knocking him out. I am sure there are now

additional

> bacterial issues going on. He was amazing for the first 20+ days

but

> all of a sudden things went south. He started having really bad

die

> off, now keeps getting sick (had strep and ear infection), has a

very

> acidic reflux, and complaining of a sore throat (but it's not red

or

> swollen).

>

> I have been hearing so much about LDM-100 and talked to my son's

DAN

> about it. I was inetersted in it because of its multiple healing

> properties (primarily the bacterial component). I sent him

> information on it and he was completely on board with it! Yeah!!

> But, he wants to Keep my son on the Valtrex as well. I am not so

> sure that's a good idea because of the severity of his die-off.

He

> has not had he Valtrex for the past couple of days because I

wanted

> to treat the die off. We have been doing charcoal twice daily to

mop

> some of the stuff. I do not know if that was a good decision or

not

> but I felt he needed a break.

>

> What is a good line a of denfense for bacteria and viruses.

>

> Anyway Heidi had mentioned order of healing is typically bacteria

> then viruses. Since we have already done OLE and Valtrex is the

LDM-

> 100 a good step or is there another antibacterial that would be

> better suited to a sensitive gut child.

>

> Also what are some good immune boosters?

>

> I am getting so many good suggestions but I get overwhelmed with

so

> many different herbal sugggestions and I end up asking repeated

so I

> am so sorry to keep bugging you guys! Just know that what I know

and

> learn I pass on to other parents. I run a support group for

autism

> alternatives in my state. I would love to get up to speed on this

so

> I can pass it on.

>

>

>

>

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We were seeing gains initially until about 2 weeks ago. Now

developmentally he seems to have plateaued. Behaviorally he has

regressed because he is having difficulty focusing, rather foggy,

fatigued, and having trouble maintaining his emotions. He is yelling

at his teachers and throwing a fit over the littlest thing, which is

not my son's normal behavior. I reintroduced the Valtrex yesterday

evening but only plan to do it once a day right now and slowly work

up to 2X daily.

I would rather not have him on another medication for reflux. Is

there something natural that you could recommend?

>

> :

>

> Some doctors believe in giving antivirals because they feel that

reducing

> the viral load will allow one's own immune system to kick in and

start doing its

> job. Well, this may be what's happening with your son. Anything

you add

> to kill pathogens when he is already fighting them, may be too

much. I guess

> everyone has their own style, but I like to ride things out when I

feel the

> immune system in now kicking in. The usual procedure is when

there is a

> plateau, then change things up. A plateau is like when they stop

progressing and

> die-off is no longer apparent. Thus, keep an eye on him, see how

things go.

> Is he having any improvements with these " sick symptoms " ? My kids

would get

> a mixture of improvements with die-off. But also, some worsening

of

> symptoms. Its crazy trying to figure all this out. Its ok to

treat for viruses

> first. None of us really know the answer. But, if something

appears to be

> working, I stay with it and see what happens next. Hopefully,

your doctor can

> help out with the reflux. I really don't have experience with

Valtrex though,

> so I would ask around and see what other parents are seeing.

There may be a

> pattern of die-off happening about 20 days in. My daughter is

suppose to be

> starting Valtrex soon for Epstein Barr, so I guess I will get some

experience

> in then.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

>

> I have started this before my som is currently on Valtrex and the

die-

> off is really knocking him out. I am sure there are now additional

> bacterial issues going on. He was amazing for the first 20+ days

but

> all of a sudden things went south. He started having really bad

die

> off, now keeps getting sick (had strep and ear infection), has a

very

> acidic reflux, and complaining of a sore throat (but it's not red

or

> swollen).

>

> I have been hearing so much about LDM-100 and talked to my son's

DAN

> about it. I was inetersted in it because of its multiple healing

> properties (primarily the bacterial component). I sent him

> information on it and he was completely on board with it! Yeah!!

> But, he wants to Keep my son on the Valtrex as well. I am not so

> sure that's a good idea because of the severity of his die-off. He

> has not had he Valtrex for the past couple of days because I

wanted

> to treat the die off. We have been doing charcoal twice daily to

mop

> some of the stuff. I do not know if that was a good decision or not

> but I felt he needed a break.

>

> What is a good line a of denfense for bacteria and viruses.

>

> Anyway Heidi had mentioned order of healing is typically bacteria

> then viruses. Since we have already done OLE and Valtrex is the

LDM-

> 100 a good step or is there another antibacterial that would be

> better suited to a sensitive gut child.

>

> Also what are some good immune boosters?

>

> I am getting so many good suggestions but I get overwhelmed with

so

> many different herbal sugggestions and I end up asking repeated so

I

> am so sorry to keep bugging you guys! Just know that what I know

and

> learn I pass on to other parents. I run a support group for autism

> alternatives in my state. I would love to get up to speed on this

so

> I can pass it on.

>

>

>

>

> **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out

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Rita-

What is muscle testing? What you mentioned about strep/staph was

interesting I misse dthat article in the files.

In reference to the doctor's presentation on file. Dr AMy's

presentation was exactly what made me very concerned about doing

both. I started him on the valtrex again last night (and have not

started the LDM-100) but I am still not convinced it was the right

thing to do.

I got to get these bacterial issues under control. So, the strep

problem he had a couple of weeks ago could have been an immune

response, meaning that the strep came to the surface and the body was

finally fighting it? He still complains of a sore throat and there

is reflux. His family doctor says that his glands are not swollen or

red (I can't see well enough to judge) and this time strep is not the

problem. I am wondering what it's from: is it something viral coming

up, is it from the acidic reflux, is one of the supplements burning

his throat, or is it really strep?

I have contacted 2 different Homeopaths. Our DAN also recommended

contacting a homepath because of my son's senstivities.

Jen

> >

> > :

> >

> > Some doctors believe in giving antivirals because they feel that

> reducing

> > the viral load will allow one's own immune system to kick in and

> start doing its

> > job. Well, this may be what's happening with your son.

Anything

> you add

> > to kill pathogens when he is already fighting them, may be too

> much. I guess

> > everyone has their own style, but I like to ride things out when

> I feel the

> > immune system in now kicking in. The usual procedure is when

> there is a

> > plateau, then change things up. A plateau is like when they

stop

> progressing and

> > die-off is no longer apparent. Thus, keep an eye on him, see

how

> things go.

> > Is he having any improvements with these " sick symptoms " ? My

> kids would get

> > a mixture of improvements with die-off. But also, some

worsening

> of

> > symptoms. Its crazy trying to figure all this out. Its ok to

> treat for viruses

> > first. None of us really know the answer. But, if something

> appears to be

> > working, I stay with it and see what happens next. Hopefully,

> your doctor can

> > help out with the reflux. I really don't have experience with

> Valtrex though,

> > so I would ask around and see what other parents are seeing.

> There may be a

> > pattern of die-off happening about 20 days in. My daughter is

> suppose to be

> > starting Valtrex soon for Epstein Barr, so I guess I will get

> some experience

> > in then.

> >

> > Love and prayers,

> >

> > Heidi N

> >

> >

> > I have started this before my som is currently on Valtrex and

the

> die-

> > off is really knocking him out. I am sure there are now

> additional

> > bacterial issues going on. He was amazing for the first 20+ days

> but

> > all of a sudden things went south. He started having really bad

> die

> > off, now keeps getting sick (had strep and ear infection), has a

> very

> > acidic reflux, and complaining of a sore throat (but it's not

red

> or

> > swollen).

> >

> > I have been hearing so much about LDM-100 and talked to my son's

> DAN

> > about it. I was inetersted in it because of its multiple healing

> > properties (primarily the bacterial component). I sent him

> > information on it and he was completely on board with it! Yeah!!

> > But, he wants to Keep my son on the Valtrex as well. I am not so

> > sure that's a good idea because of the severity of his die-off.

> He

> > has not had he Valtrex for the past couple of days because I

> wanted

> > to treat the die off. We have been doing charcoal twice daily to

> mop

> > some of the stuff. I do not know if that was a good decision or

> not

> > but I felt he needed a break.

> >

> > What is a good line a of denfense for bacteria and viruses.

> >

> > Anyway Heidi had mentioned order of healing is typically

bacteria

> > then viruses. Since we have already done OLE and Valtrex is the

> LDM-

> > 100 a good step or is there another antibacterial that would be

> > better suited to a sensitive gut child.

> >

> > Also what are some good immune boosters?

> >

> > I am getting so many good suggestions but I get overwhelmed with

> so

> > many different herbal sugggestions and I end up asking repeated

> so I

> > am so sorry to keep bugging you guys! Just know that what I know

> and

> > learn I pass on to other parents. I run a support group for

> autism

> > alternatives in my state. I would love to get up to speed on this

> so

> > I can pass it on.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out

> Today's Hot

> > 5 Travel Deals!

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>

[Guest guest]

I'm in a bind for time, could someone help me answer the muscle

testing ?

In regards to the tonsils, DA spent some time in her TACA talk. The

strep and other bacteria/viruses are deep in the tonsils and may not

appear on the service or in tests....but they are deep and there all

the same. Follow your mom instinct...and recheck the TACA talk on

the tonsils pages and bacterial & viral indicators.

Rita

> > >

> > > :

> > >

> > > Some doctors believe in giving antivirals because they feel

that

> > reducing

> > > the viral load will allow one's own immune system to kick in

and

> > start doing its

> > > job. Well, this may be what's happening with your son.

> Anything

> > you add

> > > to kill pathogens when he is already fighting them, may be too

> > much. I guess

> > > everyone has their own style, but I like to ride things out

when

> > I feel the

> > > immune system in now kicking in. The usual procedure is when

> > there is a

> > > plateau, then change things up. A plateau is like when they

> stop

> > progressing and

> > > die-off is no longer apparent. Thus, keep an eye on him, see

> how

> > things go.

> > > Is he having any improvements with these " sick symptoms " ? My

> > kids would get

> > > a mixture of improvements with die-off. But also, some

> worsening

> > of

> > > symptoms. Its crazy trying to figure all this out. Its ok

to

> > treat for viruses

> > > first. None of us really know the answer. But, if something

> > appears to be

> > > working, I stay with it and see what happens next.

Hopefully,

> > your doctor can

> > > help out with the reflux. I really don't have experience

with

> > Valtrex though,

> > > so I would ask around and see what other parents are seeing.

> > There may be a

> > > pattern of die-off happening about 20 days in. My daughter

is

> > suppose to be

> > > starting Valtrex soon for Epstein Barr, so I guess I will get

> > some experience

> > > in then.

> > >

> > > Love and prayers,

> > >

> > > Heidi N

> > >

> > >

> > > I have started this before my som is currently on Valtrex and

> the

> > die-

> > > off is really knocking him out. I am sure there are now

> > additional

> > > bacterial issues going on. He was amazing for the first 20+

days

> > but

> > > all of a sudden things went south. He started having really

bad

> > die

> > > off, now keeps getting sick (had strep and ear infection),

has a

> > very

> > > acidic reflux, and complaining of a sore throat (but it's not

> red

> > or

> > > swollen).

> > >

> > > I have been hearing so much about LDM-100 and talked to my

son's

> > DAN

> > > about it. I was inetersted in it because of its multiple

healing

> > > properties (primarily the bacterial component). I sent him

> > > information on it and he was completely on board with it!

Yeah!!

> > > But, he wants to Keep my son on the Valtrex as well. I am not

so

> > > sure that's a good idea because of the severity of his die-

off.

> > He

> > > has not had he Valtrex for the past couple of days because I

> > wanted

> > > to treat the die off. We have been doing charcoal twice daily

to

> > mop

> > > some of the stuff. I do not know if that was a good decision

or

> > not

> > > but I felt he needed a break.

> > >

> > > What is a good line a of denfense for bacteria and viruses.

> > >

> > > Anyway Heidi had mentioned order of healing is typically

> bacteria

> > > then viruses. Since we have already done OLE and Valtrex is

the

> > LDM-

> > > 100 a good step or is there another antibacterial that would

be

> > > better suited to a sensitive gut child.

> > >

> > > Also what are some good immune boosters?

> > >

> > > I am getting so many good suggestions but I get overwhelmed

with

> > so

> > > many different herbal sugggestions and I end up asking

repeated

> > so I

> > > am so sorry to keep bugging you guys! Just know that what I

know

> > and

> > > learn I pass on to other parents. I run a support group for

> > autism

> > > alternatives in my state. I would love to get up to speed on

this

> > so

> > > I can pass it on.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check

out

> > Today's Hot

> > > 5 Travel Deals!

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>

[Guest guest]

Here are two weblinks explaining what muscle testing is:

http://www.goodhealthinfo.net/herbalists/muscle_testing.htm

http://www.worldtrans.org/TP/TP2/TP2A-67.HTML

The body does not lie, and it is a viable electrical system that is capable

of being tested. You can think of muscle testing as lie detection

mechanism. Whether a particular herb, homeopathic remedy, or dietary

supplement is what the body needs, it will have a distinctive response to

truth or false, if one knows how to observe and receive the signs.

Here is another link that explains muscle testing in a simple way:

http://www.holistichealthtools.com/muscle.html

Limin

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Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:16

To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

Subject: Re:Question again... Sorry!

> I'm in a bind for time, could someone help me answer the muscle

> testing ?

> In regards to the tonsils, DA spent some time in her TACA talk. The

> strep and other bacteria/viruses are deep in the tonsils and may not

> appear on the service or in tests....but they are deep and there all

> the same. Follow your mom instinct...and recheck the TACA talk on

> the tonsils pages and bacterial & viral indicators.

> Rita

>

>

>> > >

>> > > :

>> > >

>> > > Some doctors believe in giving antivirals because they feel

> that

>> > reducing

>> > > the viral load will allow one's own immune system to kick in

> and

>> > start doing its

>> > > job. Well, this may be what's happening with your son.

>> Anything

>> > you add

>> > > to kill pathogens when he is already fighting them, may be too

>> > much. I guess

>> > > everyone has their own style, but I like to ride things out

> when

>> > I feel the

>> > > immune system in now kicking in. The usual procedure is when

>> > there is a

>> > > plateau, then change things up. A plateau is like when they

>> stop

>> > progressing and

>> > > die-off is no longer apparent. Thus, keep an eye on him, see

>> how

>> > things go.

>> > > Is he having any improvements with these " sick symptoms " ? My

>> > kids would get

>> > > a mixture of improvements with die-off. But also, some

>> worsening

>> > of

>> > > symptoms. Its crazy trying to figure all this out. Its ok

> to

>> > treat for viruses

>> > > first. None of us really know the answer. But, if something

>> > appears to be

>> > > working, I stay with it and see what happens next.

> Hopefully,

>> > your doctor can

>> > > help out with the reflux. I really don't have experience

> with

>> > Valtrex though,

>> > > so I would ask around and see what other parents are seeing.

>> > There may be a

>> > > pattern of die-off happening about 20 days in. My daughter

> is

>> > suppose to be

>> > > starting Valtrex soon for Epstein Barr, so I guess I will get

>> > some experience

>> > > in then.

>> > >

>> > > Love and prayers,

>> > >

>> > > Heidi N

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > I have started this before my som is currently on Valtrex and

>> the

>> > die-

>> > > off is really knocking him out. I am sure there are now

>> > additional

>> > > bacterial issues going on. He was amazing for the first 20+

> days

>> > but

>> > > all of a sudden things went south. He started having really

> bad

>> > die

>> > > off, now keeps getting sick (had strep and ear infection),

> has a

>> > very

>> > > acidic reflux, and complaining of a sore throat (but it's not

>> red

>> > or

>> > > swollen).

>> > >

>> > > I have been hearing so much about LDM-100 and talked to my

> son's

>> > DAN

>> > > about it. I was inetersted in it because of its multiple

> healing

>> > > properties (primarily the bacterial component). I sent him

>> > > information on it and he was completely on board with it!

> Yeah!!

>> > > But, he wants to Keep my son on the Valtrex as well. I am not

> so

>> > > sure that's a good idea because of the severity of his die-

> off.

>> > He

>> > > has not had he Valtrex for the past couple of days because I

>> > wanted

>> > > to treat the die off. We have been doing charcoal twice daily

> to

>> > mop

>> > > some of the stuff. I do not know if that was a good decision

> or

>> > not

>> > > but I felt he needed a break.

>> > >

>> > > What is a good line a of denfense for bacteria and viruses.

>> > >

>> > > Anyway Heidi had mentioned order of healing is typically

>> bacteria

>> > > then viruses. Since we have already done OLE and Valtrex is

> the

>> > LDM-

>> > > 100 a good step or is there another antibacterial that would

> be

>> > > better suited to a sensitive gut child.

>> > >

>> > > Also what are some good immune boosters?

>> > >

>> > > I am getting so many good suggestions but I get overwhelmed

> with

>> > so

>> > > many different herbal sugggestions and I end up asking

> repeated

>> > so I

>> > > am so sorry to keep bugging you guys! Just know that what I

> know

>> > and

>> > > learn I pass on to other parents. I run a support group for

>> > autism

>> > > alternatives in my state. I would love to get up to speed on

> this

>> > so

>> > > I can pass it on.

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

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THanks Rita. I will review it again. So much info and not enough

brain cells left to process it! LOL

Jen

> > > >

> > > > :

> > > >

> > > > Some doctors believe in giving antivirals because they feel

> that

> > > reducing

> > > > the viral load will allow one's own immune system to kick in

> and

> > > start doing its

> > > > job. Well, this may be what's happening with your son.

> > Anything

> > > you add

> > > > to kill pathogens when he is already fighting them, may be

too

> > > much. I guess

> > > > everyone has their own style, but I like to ride things out

> when

> > > I feel the

> > > > immune system in now kicking in. The usual procedure is

when

> > > there is a

> > > > plateau, then change things up. A plateau is like when they

> > stop

> > > progressing and

> > > > die-off is no longer apparent. Thus, keep an eye on him,

see

> > how

> > > things go.

> > > > Is he having any improvements with these " sick symptoms " ?

My

> > > kids would get

> > > > a mixture of improvements with die-off. But also, some

> > worsening

> > > of

> > > > symptoms. Its crazy trying to figure all this out. Its ok

> to

> > > treat for viruses

> > > > first. None of us really know the answer. But, if

something

> > > appears to be

> > > > working, I stay with it and see what happens next.

> Hopefully,

> > > your doctor can

> > > > help out with the reflux. I really don't have experience

> with

> > > Valtrex though,

> > > > so I would ask around and see what other parents are

seeing.

> > > There may be a

> > > > pattern of die-off happening about 20 days in. My daughter

> is

> > > suppose to be

> > > > starting Valtrex soon for Epstein Barr, so I guess I will

get

> > > some experience

> > > > in then.

> > > >

> > > > Love and prayers,

> > > >

> > > > Heidi N

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I have started this before my som is currently on Valtrex and

> > the

> > > die-

> > > > off is really knocking him out. I am sure there are now

> > > additional

> > > > bacterial issues going on. He was amazing for the first 20+

> days

> > > but

> > > > all of a sudden things went south. He started having really

> bad

> > > die

> > > > off, now keeps getting sick (had strep and ear infection),

> has a

> > > very

> > > > acidic reflux, and complaining of a sore throat (but it's

not

> > red

> > > or

> > > > swollen).

> > > >

> > > > I have been hearing so much about LDM-100 and talked to my

> son's

> > > DAN

> > > > about it. I was inetersted in it because of its multiple

> healing

> > > > properties (primarily the bacterial component). I sent him

> > > > information on it and he was completely on board with it!

> Yeah!!

> > > > But, he wants to Keep my son on the Valtrex as well. I am

not

> so

> > > > sure that's a good idea because of the severity of his die-

> off.

> > > He

> > > > has not had he Valtrex for the past couple of days because I

> > > wanted

> > > > to treat the die off. We have been doing charcoal twice daily

> to

> > > mop

> > > > some of the stuff. I do not know if that was a good decision

> or

> > > not

> > > > but I felt he needed a break.

> > > >

> > > > What is a good line a of denfense for bacteria and viruses.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway Heidi had mentioned order of healing is typically

> > bacteria

> > > > then viruses. Since we have already done OLE and Valtrex is

> the

> > > LDM-

> > > > 100 a good step or is there another antibacterial that would

> be

> > > > better suited to a sensitive gut child.

> > > >

> > > > Also what are some good immune boosters?

> > > >

> > > > I am getting so many good suggestions but I get overwhelmed

> with

> > > so

> > > > many different herbal sugggestions and I end up asking

> repeated

> > > so I

> > > > am so sorry to keep bugging you guys! Just know that what I

> know

> > > and

> > > > learn I pass on to other parents. I run a support group for

> > > autism

> > > > alternatives in my state. I would love to get up to speed on

> this

> > > so

> > > > I can pass it on.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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:

My daughter's doc says I can stop giving her the Valtrex and wait till behaviors improve again to continue, as much as two weeks break if needed. He also gives Cortisol or something like that for inflammation to cover the first 6 weeks. After that, die-off seems to be manageable. I have not done this yet. Currently, we are de-worming first. Then I will research and see what I learn about his recommendations.

I think reflux is caused by acid and pathogens. Acid makes pathogens grow, and pathogens make the body more acidic. Anything you do to increase alkalinity (or make things less acidic), improve digestion and kill pathogens will help the situation. At my house, we do several things together, turmeric, digestive enzymes, probiotics, and supplements in general. Efforts towards making the body work better will help. Starches seem to make the reflux really bad. Thus, I do not eat that many starches, and organic when I do. My children occasionally get reflux with new meds, but it never lasts more than a couple of weeks. Mainstream seems to relay that reflux needs to be treated with acid-reducing meds, but DAN's appear to believe that reflux is caused by not enough digestive acids, and give things to increase such. I believe in increasing digestion to rid the reflux.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

We were seeing gains initially until about 2 weeks ago. Now developmentally he seems to have plateaued. Behaviorally he has regressed because he is having difficulty focusing, rather foggy, fatigued, and having trouble maintaining his emotions. He is yelling at his teachers and throwing a fit over the littlest thing, which is not my son's normal behavior. I reintroduced the Valtrex yesterday evening but only plan to do it once a day right now and slowly work up to 2X daily.I would rather not have him on another medication for reflux. Is there something natural that you could recommend?Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals!