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Yes,strep is very serious. It traveled from my throat into my kidneys

and heart tissue,blood stream. My parent were told I would not live.

I was in a coma for 3 days and woke up in a hospital oxygen tent. It

happened so fast. I was sick one night and in the hospital by morning.

Strep is a very serious,dangerous infection.

All I remember is having a raw burning throat.

Tishanne

-- In AutismBehaviorProblems ,

" mel " wrote:

>

> My son had it and it caused seizures and septecemia

> Re: New to Group

>

>

> Hi Kellie,thank you from my heart for sharing your families

story.

> You bring the reality of love,courage and loss to me. My prayers

go

> out to you,family to family. I would like the families to please

> understand I am only speaking of vaccinations in regards to my

own

> children. 2 of my children had reactions to the shots because of

the

> way their bodies, systems dealt with them. They had all their

primary

> shots wich allowed discovery of their reactions to be verified.

They

> did have the alternative type dose for polio. Their pediatrician

> advised no further shots,boosters ect. because of fevers and

> convulsions following mmr/dpt. They did not complete their

schedules

> under the advice of our pediatrician. It does cause me to worry.

I

> had strep at age 14. It traveled into my organs. I was in a coma

> because of strep.

>

> Tishanne

> - In AutismBehaviorProblems , Kellie Folkerts

> <kelliefolkerts@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Hi ,�

> > �

> > � I know what I'm about to say isn't going to be popular but

I have

> to say it.� I'm not trying to scare anyone or change anyones

mind on

> anything but groups are about sharing your personal experience

and I

> really feel the need to share this with you all.� was 2

and we

> had just started seeing a DAN doctor.� My daughter had

just

> been born and he recommended no vaccines for her.� We were (and

still

> are) very afraid of having another autistic child so we didn't

give

> her any.� When she was 10 months I asked about giving her some

on a

> different schedule(not so many at one time) and he said yes when

she

> was 2 we would start them.� On Dec. 8 2003 I put to bed

she

> was fine and the next morning she was gone.� She had contracted

Strep

> which turned into meningitis�and it went so quickly it only

took

> hours from onset to death.� We will always regret not having

her

> vaccinated� and we can't take it back.� Our daughter Paige

was born in

> > 2005 and we had her vaccinated at a slower rate.� I'm really

not

> trying to scare anyone.� I just needed to tell you what we have

> experienced.� Kellie

> > >

> > > Hi Everyone,

> > >

> > > My name is a, I am a 24 year old mother of 4 kids aged

4

> > months (boy), 2 years (girl), 4 years (boy with ASD) and 5

years

> > (girl). My 4 year old son Donovan was diagnosed with Autism

when he

> > was 25 months old. He never really spoke as a baby other than

mama

> > and dada (with no meaning), but he didn't start to lose eye

contact

> > or start stimming until after he had his 12 month and 18 month

> > vaccinations. I don't fully believe that these shots caused my

> son's

> > autism- but I know they played a role is poisoning his system.

> Since

> > his diagnosis he has made much less progress than we had hoped.

The

> > most progress he has made is regaining eye contact, bringing

things

> > he wants opened to us, pushing a chair to climb and get

something

> he

> > wants and sometimes pushing buttons on a communicative device

with

> > pictures to say what he wants every now and then. He is non-

verbal

> > with no real functional communication for daily needs and

desires.

> > We tried ABA , PECS and signing for the first year and he

wouldn't

> > respond. He throws frequent tantrums, often for no apparent

reason.

> > When he gets upset he will sometimes hit at me. Donovan is

> > affectionate though. He will come to me for hugs and kisses and

> > likes to be tickled. But sometimes when giving or receiving

> > affection, he will pinch me or grab and pull my hair all of the

> > sudden- when he does this, he is still smiling and does not

seem to

> > understand that he is hurting me. I tell him " no " and I think

he

> > understands what no is, but he continues to do this. He has

> recently

> > pulled my mom's hair and she was shocked- I never told her that

he

> > pulled my hair because my family is already weary to be around

him

> > because of the behaviors he exhibits. Donovan also stims all

the

> > time. He stims by flicking his spit with his finders in front

of

> his

> > eyes and especially in streams of indoor and outdoor light.

When he

> > stims he gets so excited that he stands on his toes and you can

> > almost feel the excitement and energy building up in him and he

> says

> > " aaahhhhh " and other vocalizations when stimming. He also gets

> > " overstimulated when he stims and will go from being excited to

> > crying really loudly. Donovan also likes to knock things off of

> > tables, turn cups filled with liquid upside down, and " mess up "

> > things by moving them back and forth real fast under his hands.

He

> > used to be totally infatuated with strings and would flick them

in

> > front of his face, now he only flicks them in light and doesn't

> seem

> > to be obsessed with them anymore (which is great, he used to

> unbraid

> > the hair on his older sisters dolls, tear it out and leave it

all

> > over the house and tear up the strings in carpet.

> > >

> > > I often think about his future and fear that my family will

never

> > truly be comfortable around him because he requires so much

> attention

> > and tends to destroy their houses. I fear that as he gets older

> > that, since he is so big (he's only 4 taller than my 5 year old

and

> > weights 49 pounds from height and stature, not fat) that his

dad

> and

> > I won't be able to physically handle him like we can now,

> especially

> > during tantrums.

> > >

> > > I often hear how autistic kids tend to have an area they

excel at

> > or have high interest in- I have yet to see what that area

might be

> > for Donovan. I hope and pray that he will grow to be accepted

by my

> > family and his peers, communicate with us in some way and stop

his

> > aggressive behaviors. I have also heard that stimming is

> > neurodegenerative, so when he tries to stim all the time, I

keep

> > thinking that he is ruining his brain or something by doing it.

> > >

> > > It is difficult to say the least, raising four kids that

already

> > have health issues like sever eczema and asthma, sleeping

issues,

> > etc. then to worry about Donovan all the time and how his

future

> will

> > be is enough to really stress me out. On top of everything

else, I

> > go to school full-time, work full-time and never seem to bet

sleep.

> > My children's father is a tremendous help, but both of us are

> > exhausted and we often get discouraged at the lack of progress

for

> > Donovan.

> > >

> > > I do not want to medicate my son. I have read how often these

> > stimulants and anti-depressants are medicines made for adults,

but

> > given to children in lower doses- with no real un-biased

studies of

> > their efficacy in children. I have also seen first hand how

> children

> > who are on medicines as kids, grow up and stop taking their

> medicine,

> > and the chemical imbalance is a sort of shock to their system

and

> > they act out violently. And that these acts of violence or rage

> make

> > people think that " they need their medicine " when in fact their

> body

> > is going through withdrawal.

> > >

> > > I want to snap Donovan into our world naturally and soon,

with

> out

> > causing so much stress on his siblings. (His tantrums make the

> other

> > kids cry and get scared>)

> > >

> > > I hope someone can relate to my situation and give me some

advice

> > on how to help my son. I would also like to know what services

your

> > children get through the school district and if you get daily

> living

> > skills assistance also and if so, how did you get those

services.

> > >

> > > Thanks for taking the time to read my story.

> > >

> > > a Calderon

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I know of a girl who got strep and didn't treat it. She ended up pretty much a vegetable for a year and then died at age 18. There is a young girl at my MIL's church who is in a wheel chair because damage strep did to her body.

Elaine

Re: New to Group> > > Hi Kellie,thank you from my heart for sharing your families story. > You bring the reality of love,courage and loss to me. My prayers go > out to you,family to family. I would like the families to please > understand I am only speaking of vaccinations in regards to my own > children. 2 of my children had reactions to the shots because of the > way their bodies, systems dealt with them. They had all their primary > shots wich allowed discovery of their reactions to be verified. They > did have the alternative type dose for polio. Their pediatrician > advised no further shots,boosters ect. because of fevers and > convulsions following mmr/dpt. They did not complete their schedules > under the advice of our pediatrician. It does cause me to worry. I > had strep at age 14. It traveled into my organs. I was in a coma > because of strep.> > Tishanne> - In AutismBehaviorProblems , Kellie Folkerts > <kelliefolkerts@> wrote:> >> > > > Hi ,� > > �> > � I know what I'm about to say isn't going to be popular but I have > to say it.� I'm not trying to scare anyone or change anyones mind on > anything but groups are about sharing your personal experience and I > really feel the need to share this with you all.� was 2 and we > had just started seeing a DAN doctor.� My daughter had just > been born and he recommended no vaccines for her.� We were (and still > are) very afraid of having another autistic child so we didn't give > her any.� When she was 10 months I asked about giving her some on a > different schedule(not so many at one time) and he said yes when she > was 2 we would start them.� On Dec. 8 2003 I put to bed she > was fine and the next morning she was gone.� She had contracted Strep > which turned into meningitis�and it went so quickly it only took > hours from onset to death.� We will always regret not having her > vaccinated� and we can't take it back.� Our daughter Paige was born in> > 2005 and we had her vaccinated at a slower rate.� I'm really not > trying to scare anyone.� I just needed to tell you what we have > experienced.� Kellie> > >> > > Hi Everyone,> > > > > > My name is a, I am a 24 year old mother of 4 kids aged 4 > > months (boy), 2 years (girl), 4 years (boy with ASD) and 5 years > > (girl). My 4 year old son Donovan was diagnosed with Autism when he > > was 25 months old. He never really spoke as a baby other than mama > > and dada (with no meaning), but he didn't start to lose eye contact > > or start stimming until after he had his 12 month and 18 month > > vaccinations. I don't fully believe that these shots caused my > son's > > autism- but I know they played a role is poisoning his system. > Since > > his diagnosis he has made much less progress than we had hoped. The > > most progress he has made is regaining eye contact, bringing things > > he wants opened to us, pushing a chair to climb and get something > he > > wants and sometimes pushing buttons on a communicative device with > > pictures to say what he wants every now and then. He is non-verbal > > with no real functional communication for daily needs and desires. > > We tried ABA , PECS and signing for the first year and he wouldn't > > respond. He throws frequent tantrums, often for no apparent reason. > > When he gets upset he will sometimes hit at me. Donovan is > > affectionate though. He will come to me for hugs and kisses and > > likes to be tickled. But sometimes when giving or receiving > > affection, he will pinch me or grab and pull my hair all of the > > sudden- when he does this, he is still smiling and does not seem to > > understand that he is hurting me. I tell him "no" and I think he > > understands what no is, but he continues to do this. He has > recently > > pulled my mom's hair and she was shocked- I never told her that he > > pulled my hair because my family is already weary to be around him > > because of the behaviors he exhibits. Donovan also stims all the > > time. He stims by flicking his spit with his finders in front of > his > > eyes and especially in streams of indoor and outdoor light. When he > > stims he gets so excited that he stands on his toes and you can > > almost feel the excitement and energy building up in him and he > says > > "aaahhhhh" and other vocalizations when stimming. He also gets > > "overstimulated when he stims and will go from being excited to > > crying really loudly. Donovan also likes to knock things off of > > tables, turn cups filled with liquid upside down, and "mess up" > > things by moving them back and forth real fast under his hands. He > > used to be totally infatuated with strings and would flick them in > > front of his face, now he only flicks them in light and doesn't > seem > > to be obsessed with them anymore (which is great, he used to > unbraid > > the hair on his older sisters dolls, tear it out and leave it all > > over the house and tear up the strings in carpet.> > > > > > I often think about his future and fear that my family will never > > truly be comfortable around him because he requires so much > attention > > and tends to destroy their houses. I fear that as he gets older > > that, since he is so big (he's only 4 taller than my 5 year old and > > weights 49 pounds from height and stature, not fat) that his dad > and > > I won't be able to physically handle him like we can now, > especially > > during tantrums.> > > > > > I often hear how autistic kids tend to have an area they excel at > > or have high interest in- I have yet to see what that area might be > > for Donovan. I hope and pray that he will grow to be accepted by my > > family and his peers, communicate with us in some way and stop his > > aggressive behaviors. I have also heard that stimming is > > neurodegenerative, so when he tries to stim all the time, I keep > > thinking that he is ruining his brain or something by doing it.> > > > > > It is difficult to say the least, raising four kids that already > > have health issues like sever eczema and asthma, sleeping issues, > > etc. then to worry about Donovan all the time and how his future > will > > be is enough to really stress me out. On top of everything else, I > > go to school full-time, work full-time and never seem to bet sleep. > > My children's father is a tremendous help, but both of us are > > exhausted and we often get discouraged at the lack of progress for > > Donovan.> > > > > > I do not want to medicate my son. I have read how often these > > stimulants and anti-depressants are medicines made for adults, but > > given to children in lower doses- with no real un-biased studies of > > their efficacy in children. I have also seen first hand how > children > > who are on medicines as kids, grow up and stop taking their > medicine, > > and the chemical imbalance is a sort of shock to their system and > > they act out violently. And that these acts of violence or rage > make > > people think that "they need their medicine" when in fact their > body > > is going through withdrawal.> > > > > > I want to snap Donovan into our world naturally and soon, with > out > > causing so much stress on his siblings. (His tantrums make the > other > > kids cry and get scared>)> > > > > > I hope someone can relate to my situation and give me some advice > > on how to help my son. I would also like to know what services your > > children get through the school district and if you get daily > living > > skills assistance also and if so, how did you get those services.> > > > > > Thanks for taking the time to read my story.> > > > > > a Calderon> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________> > > This e-mail has been scanned by MCI Managed Email Content > Service, > > using Skeptic technology powered by MessageLabs. For more > > information on MCI's Managed Email Content Service, visit http://> > www.mci.com.> > > > >__________________________________________________________> > >> >_________________________________________________________ > _____________> > This e-mail has been scanned by MCI Managed Email Content Service, > using Skeptic technology powered by MessageLabs. 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