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I would like to know more about stevia too. Any time I have tried it, it seemed

to taste too artificial to me. This was true even when I used very small

amounts.

Shari

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From: Sam

Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 12:59 PM

Subject: stevia

I have been experimenting with stevia and not having much luck. I was

wondering if anyone uses a certain brand of stevia that you have had good luck

baking with and that you feel is good. I am sure all brands are not equal and I

would like to find a good one. Also any recipes would be appreciated!

Kim

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Shari, I've had the same experience with stevia, finding it too sweet and

tasting artificial. I've tried many different stevia products, and they all

tasted the same to me. I just use honey now.

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Ditto that. Also, a few things I've noticed that make stevia difficult to

work with:

1) It has no ability to bind, emulsify, or attract moisture in recipes (many

times that's a central function of sugar)

2) There's no way to get rich caramel-like flavors (maybe browning butter

and adding stevia would work for certain things).

3) It has no ability to buffer bitterness or acidity. Stevia lemonade will

get bitter before it mellows the sourness; similarly stevia in coffee or tea

sweetens it but does nothing to tame any bitterness -- not a bid deal for

me, but it is for my wife.

4) Sugar in anything (especially beverages) changes the mouthfeel by

enhancing viscocity. Stevia doesn't.

I'm beginning to suspect that stevia might only be a reasonable substitute

for sugar if you've been sugar free for awhile so that your flavor and

texture standards aren't quite as high...

Minneapolis

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From: sharon wagner [mailto:asejmlae@...]

Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:02 PM

Subject: Re: stevia

I would like to know more about stevia too. Any time I have tried it, it

seemed to taste too artificial to me. This was true even when I used very

small amounts.

Shari

----- Original Message -----

From: Sam

Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 12:59 PM

Subject: stevia

I have been experimenting with stevia and not having much luck. I was

wondering if anyone uses a certain brand of stevia that you have had good

luck baking with and that you feel is good. I am sure all brands are not

equal and I would like to find a good one. Also any recipes would be

appreciated!

Kim

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Have you read the book Stevia Rebaudiana Nature's Sweet Secret by ?

It has recipees and lots of information. It also gives resources and tells how

to grow it. It is published bvy Vital Health Publishing. Yes, Stevia is more

'artificial' tasting to me as well. It is of course only a sweet flavoring, not

a sugar.

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Subject: Re: stevia

Shari, I've had the same experience with stevia, finding it too sweet and

tasting artificial. I've tried many different stevia products, and they all

tasted the same to me. I just use honey now.

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Thanks for the clarification Joy... I don't use much stevia, except to sweeten... I use others for baking... I had this chart back from a discussion on another list over a year ago...

It's nice when someone who has used it jumps in..

SuziJoy <smjlists@...> wrote:

This is not accurate information. I use stevia for all sweetning needs, including the little baking I do.1 cup of sugar is equal to 1 and 1/2 teaspoons stevia, in sweetning strength. However, only with the best stevia formulations can you use this much stevia. The sweet part of the stevia is a very small part ofthe herb, and when processed various amounts of the more bitter after-tastes of the rest of the plant, plus the licorice flavor of the natural herb, come through. Most common stevia powder extracts can onlybe used at 1 teaspoon to replace one cup of sugar. Stevia does not replace sugar exactly, acts differently when baked - sweetness remains, but doesn't have other properties of sugar in cooking. A good resource is Kirkland Low-Carb cooking with Stevia. Includes charts showing

exact comparisons of various forms of sweetners. Something good to know is that processed stevia, though good in that it replacesthe use of sugar, for those that still need to have "sweets", does not have the health benefits of natural stevia herb, which is a rough, green/brown powder, or you can buy it in dried leaf form, or grow it yourself. In South America natural stevia has long been used as a remedy for diabetis, not just because it replaces sugar, but becuase the natural/whole stevia actually helps to regulate blood sugar. It makes a delicious tea, either by itself or in combination with other herbs, adding licorice sweet taste to the mix.You can't use the whole herb in cooking/baking, other than in recipes specifically dsigned for its use.For one thing, it doesn't dissolve in water, as does the extract. You can however make a tincture withthe natural stevia, which does maintain the

health benefits of the whole stevia, and can be used in baking, though measurements are difficult, as each tincture tends to have differing strengths. It also maintains the licorice flavor. In general, unless you are making baked goods, which in general aren't great for your health, using the natural herb is far better (and cheaper) than using the powdered extract. If you don't like the licorice flavor, the processed extract is better than using granulated sugar, and far better than usingartificial sweetners such as aspartame and splenda. Joy__________________________________________________

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> Hi Joy,

>

> So you are saying 'processed' extract of stevia is the best

tasting? Can

> you please tell me a site to find this kind of stevia? I have

tried stevia

> before but wasn't happy with the unlike sugar taste.

>

> Also, I was recently informed there is a chemical in stevia that

promotes

> cancer. Is this another one of the many pharm rumors to keep us on

track

> and ingesting aspartame or Splenda?

>

> This is very interesting information on stevia.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Baugh

>

I have used Stevia for abut 7 or 8 years and no problem. I have

tried several companies, and both powdered and liquid, and my

favorite in from NOW FOOD and I have ended up with Stevia Glycerite

liquid with no alcohol and, to me, no bitter after taste. The reason

I ended up with the glycerite is it is a lot cheeper that the

extract.

I got my last from http://www.iherb.com/stevial.html

hope this is some help---lee/leo

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Hi - a good site to look for more information, and links to

purchase probably best US quality stevia would be

http://www.CookingWithStevia.com. Having said that, since the only way

I use the stevia extract at this point is for an ascorbic acid

" lemonade " - water, ascorbic acid, and white (processed) stevia, I go

with a cheaper but good quality stevia, from NOW brand, purchase it on

vitaglo.com It has slightly more aftertaste than the best brands, but

its not noticeable in combination with the ascorbic acid. I use the

natural herb for all hot teas and beverages, but won't dissolve in cold

water. I guess if I weren't so lazy I could make a hot tea, chill it,

and then add the ascorbic acid. Would be much cheaper.

I hadn't heard anything about the cancer issue - there is a lot of

information on Cooking With Stevia site about the politics of stevia,

why FDA wouldn't/didn't approve it for use as sweetner. Ugly story. It

basically got shut down by the folks promoting aspartame. There is a

huge history of stevia use, particularly the natural herb, used for

hundreds of years in South america and elsewhere. The processed stevia

is now the top swelling sweetner in Japan - even higher use/purchase

than for granulated sugar.

They also have refined their processing, and have a 99.9 per cent pure

form of the sweet part of the stevia, tastes like powedered sugar, no

aftertaste at all. Not available for export to US, however.

Good luck! Joy

> Hi Joy,

>

> So you are saying 'processed' extract of stevia is the best tasting? Can

> you please tell me a site to find this kind of stevia?

>

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> Hi Joy,

>

> So you are saying 'processed' extract of stevia is the best tasting? Can

> you please tell me a site to find this kind of stevia? I have tried

> stevia

> before but wasn't happy with the unlike sugar taste.

>

> Also, I was recently informed there is a chemical in stevia that promotes

> cancer. Is this another one of the many pharm rumors to keep us on track

> and ingesting aspartame or Splenda?

>

> This is very interesting information on stevia.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Baugh

>

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Well this blurb from the National Cancer Institute, who by the way are

in bed with big pharma, really doesn't show or state much of anything

conclusive about this. Here is the blurb.

****Stevia****

In recent years, a sweetening product called stevia (stevioside or

steviol) has received much public attention. It is 250 to 300 times

sweeter than sugar. To date, the FDA has not approved it for use as a

sweetener in the United States, but stevia may be sold as a dietary

supplement. Researchers have found that the main chemical in stevia can

be converted in the laboratory to a compound that causes changes in

genes <http://www.cancer.gov/dictionary/db_alpha.aspx?expand=g#gene>.

More study is needed to learn whether the same changes, which might lead

to cancer, could occur in people.

According to how I am reading this, they are able to manipulate and

change the main constituent of stevia, in the laboratory, and make it

possibly toxic to the human body. Sounds like a pretty good scare tactic

to me.

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Stevia ~ Yerba Dulce (Stevia rebaudiana)

There is also an herb called Aztec Sweet herb, (Lippia dulcis)

which is also very sweet, but has too much camphor in it to be used as a sweetner.Suzanne <suziesgoats@...> wrote:

Do you all have the scientific name you use... I ask cause last year I got some and it was not the right species... I don't do much sugar but was going to keep some on hand..

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It's not a drug. Some folks are allergic to walnuts or strawberries.

Walnuts aren't a drug either. There's lots of different allergies.

On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 10:01:23 -0500, FOOD FUN <foodfun@...> wrote:

> I've been watching this thread and just need to comment. I have a cousin

> that ended up in the hospital and almost died. She was very, very sick

> and

> the doctors were having a hard time knowing what was wrong. They

> discovered

> she had a very bad reaction to stevia. She had been using it for several

> months and it build up in her system. This is just a warning that

> although

> it is an herb, all herbs are still drugs and need to be careful when

> starting using them. She just jumped right in and everything was

> stevia. I

> now tell people to start slowly with any new thing to make sure it is

> okay

> in their body.

> Beverly

> Texas

>

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Herbs are drugs.

Beverly

Re: Fw: Re: stevia

It's not a drug. Some folks are allergic to walnuts or strawberries.

Walnuts aren't a drug either. There's lots of different allergies.

On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 10:01:23 -0500, FOOD FUN <foodfun@...> wrote:

> I've been watching this thread and just need to comment. I have a cousin

> that ended up in the hospital and almost died. She was very, very sick

> and

> the doctors were having a hard time knowing what was wrong. They

> discovered

> she had a very bad reaction to stevia. She had been using it for several

> months and it build up in her system. This is just a warning that

> although

> it is an herb, all herbs are still drugs and need to be careful when

> starting using them. She just jumped right in and everything was

> stevia. I

> now tell people to start slowly with any new thing to make sure it is

> okay

> in their body.

> Beverly

> Texas

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can anyone give me the brand name of their stevia. i have searched google

and they all have something added, like glycerine. thanks, bonnie

Re: Fw: Re: stevia

> It's not a drug. Some folks are allergic to walnuts or strawberries.

> Walnuts aren't a drug either. There's lots of different allergies.

>

> On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 10:01:23 -0500, FOOD FUN <foodfun@...> wrote:

>

>> I've been watching this thread and just need to comment. I have a cousin

>> that ended up in the hospital and almost died. She was very, very sick

>> and

>> the doctors were having a hard time knowing what was wrong. They

>> discovered

>> she had a very bad reaction to stevia. She had been using it for several

>> months and it build up in her system. This is just a warning that

>> although

>> it is an herb, all herbs are still drugs and need to be careful when

>> starting using them. She just jumped right in and everything was

>> stevia. I

>> now tell people to start slowly with any new thing to make sure it is

>> okay

>> in their body.

>> Beverly

>> Texas

>>

>

>

> --

>

> Steve Spence

> Renewable energy and self sufficiency

> http://www.green-trust.org

> http://arduinotronics.blogspot.com

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 21:27:56 -0500, Bonnie Engler

<bonnieengler@...> wrote:

> can anyone give me the brand name of their stevia. i have searched

> google

> and they all have something added, like glycerine. thanks, bonnie

>

> Re: Fw: Re: stevia

>

>

>> It's not a drug. Some folks are allergic to walnuts or strawberries.

>> Walnuts aren't a drug either. There's lots of different allergies.

>>

--

Steve Spence

Renewable energy and self sufficiency

http://www.green-trust.org

http://arduinotronics.blogspot.com

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God .....

On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 21:27:56 -0500, Bonnie Engler

<bonnieengler@...> wrote:

> can anyone give me the brand name of their stevia. i have searched

> google

> and they all have something added, like glycerine. thanks, bonnie

>

> Re: Fw: Re: stevia

>

>

>> It's not a drug. Some folks are allergic to walnuts or strawberries.

>> Walnuts aren't a drug either. There's lots of different allergies.

>>

--

Steve Spence

Renewable energy and self sufficiency

http://www.green-trust.org

http://arduinotronics.blogspot.com

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