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I'd also like to know of any brands of pickles or fermented veggies that are

naturally fermented without vinegar, organic, and not pasteurized. Seems to me

everything I've seen in jars is pasteurized. The Deep Roots/Biolacto fermented

veggies in the plastic bags are the only ones I've found so far that meet all

the criteria, but they don't seem to make cucumber pickles.

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>Seems to me everything I've seen in jars is pasteurized.

Unfortunately, it may stay that way, since live foods could potentially

build up pressure and burst glass jars. (I'd imagine this would mostly or

only happen if the jars were allowed to warm up -- but refrigerated

trucking is expensive, and pasteurization is " efficient " .) Deep Root

mentions on their site that occasionally a package will swell because it's

re-fermenting -- not a problem, they say, except that in a glass jar it

could cause a dangerous mess.

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> >Seems to me everything I've seen in jars is pasteurized.

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> Unfortunately, it may stay that way, since live foods could

potentially

> build up pressure and burst glass jars. (I'd imagine this would

mostly or

> only happen if the jars were allowed to warm up -- but refrigerated

> trucking is expensive, and pasteurization is " efficient " .)

Rejuvinative Foods packages their live fermented products in jars.

Though no cucumber pickles :(

Portland, OR

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>Rejuvinative Foods packages their live fermented products in jars.

>Though no cucumber pickles

Hmm, so they do! Maybe they're able to reliably keep their jars

cold. Bubbies told me that one reason they started pasteurizing was that

they had a problem with jars bursting, and Bio Lacto does mention their

packages occasionally swelling from fermentation starting up again.

I sure would love to find some live pickles too!

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> Hmm, so they do! Maybe they're able to reliably

> keep their jars cold. Bubbies told me that one

> reason they started pasteurizing was that they

> had a problem with jars bursting, and Bio Lacto

> does mention their packages occasionally swelling

> from fermentation starting up again.

I've wondered about this before too. I've noticed that the Rejuv. Foods

jars often have slightly bulging lids. It's possible that they've made sure

that the lids are designed to purposely leak gas at some level of pressure

just below the breaking threshold of the glass jar.

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Bubbies told me that one reason they started pasteurizing was

that

> they had a problem with jars bursting,

Thanks, , I just emailed Bubbies to ask if they pasteurized their

pickles. I had not considered they might be pasteurized. Dang!

That's one less thing I'll be buying.

Portland, OR

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