Re: Re: honey question (was amino acids)

[Guest guest]

Bianca,

Have you found that people continue to experience the highs and lows with

the unheated raw honey - as they did with other sugars?

Also, you mentioned in another post something about honey aiding chromium

deficiency. Would you please expand on this?

Finally, I just wanted to add that I completely agree with you about

selective eating and NT. I had learned that prior to reading the book. No

sweetners, except stevia. After a year, I can eat homemade ice cream and

fruits in moderation. BUT - I would *love* to be able to eat honey!!!!

Although, I am quite worried what might happen if I do....

Thank you,

Deanna

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From: <bianca3@...>

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Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 11:24 AM

Subject: Fw: Re: Re: amino acids?

Bianca: No question that raw animal foods is the most important aspect of

this tradition from a therapeutic/healing aspect in my experience.

Vegetation just did not help in general unless it was in the form of

green juices or green foods like various unheated algae(with rare

exceptions we did not use fruit juices as the sugar content was just way

to high and often exacerbated problems). My experience is that while

vegetables (fermented or otherwise) and whole fruits (along with grains)

can be great for a health maintenance diet, in the recovery from disease

they are not. And that is a distinction that needs to be made.

Becky,

My comments about fruit juices are incomplete. It is not just that the

sugar content was too high but that it existed in a less than whole form.

For some reason that was not a problem with vegetable juices, and I

always attributed it to a lower sugar content. But sugar per se is not

the issue as witnessed by my extensive use of unheated and unfiltered

honey to facilitate healing.

[Guest guest]

I also have a concern about honey, in that I've had several episodes of

sneezing fits from eating even a small amount of unheated honey. Maybe some of

us are not ready to handle the pollens? If so, I wouldn't want to challenge my

immune system with it. I was surprised when that happened, because I generally

don't tend to have respiratory allergy symptoms.

[Guest guest]

Just letting you know, Bianca, that there is another reader of this list who

shares Deanna's desires and concerns and will be very interested in your answer

to her questions.

----- Original Message -----

From: Deanna Buck

Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 10:50 AM

Subject: Re: Re: honey question (was amino acids)

Bianca,

Have you found that people continue to experience the highs and lows with

the unheated raw honey - as they did with other sugars?

Also, you mentioned in another post something about honey aiding chromium

deficiency. Would you please expand on this?

Finally, I just wanted to add that I completely agree with you about

selective eating and NT. I had learned that prior to reading the book. No

sweetners, except stevia. After a year, I can eat homemade ice cream and

fruits in moderation. BUT - I would *love* to be able to eat honey!!!!

Although, I am quite worried what might happen if I do....

Thank you,

Deanna

----- Original Message -----

From: <bianca3@...>

< >

Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 11:24 AM

Subject: Fw: Re: Re: amino acids?

Bianca: No question that raw animal foods is the most important aspect of

this tradition from a therapeutic/healing aspect in my experience.

Vegetation just did not help in general unless it was in the form of

green juices or green foods like various unheated algae(with rare

exceptions we did not use fruit juices as the sugar content was just way

to high and often exacerbated problems). My experience is that while

vegetables (fermented or otherwise) and whole fruits (along with grains)

can be great for a health maintenance diet, in the recovery from disease

they are not. And that is a distinction that needs to be made.

Becky,

My comments about fruit juices are incomplete. It is not just that the

sugar content was too high but that it existed in a less than whole form.

For some reason that was not a problem with vegetable juices, and I

always attributed it to a lower sugar content. But sugar per se is not

the issue as witnessed by my extensive use of unheated and unfiltered

honey to facilitate healing.

[Guest guest]

Deanna,

On a 85 - 100% raw diet I never had a problem with the high and lows that

people have with other sugars. The one time there was a problem was

rather puzzling, then we switched brands of honey and the problem went

away. Turns out that the honey was not unheated even though the label

said otherwise. That is one thing that people need to keep in mind, raw

honey is in fact heated, and NOT helpful. The jar must say unheated and

even then you should check with the producer and make sure that no where

in the process did the temp. rise above body temp. Otherwise you are

dealing with an inferior product.

Remember too that the example I gave was of a lady who was CRAVING honey.

One of the things my clients taught me over the years is to trust the

human body. I figured if she craved it there must be something the body

needs that she is not getting, so I let her do it, and learned something

in the process. That has happened with many a food and I always supported

it by making sure whatever they craved was of the highest quality. That

always solved the problem

Now in terms of adding unheated honey to a more standard raw/cooked combo

diet. If you are having sugar handling problems then there are a number

of things that need to be adjusted so that you can get well and not just

cope. So in isolation, without seeing the total picture, it is impossible

to make a recommendation. But I have found that unheated honey added to

raw meats and milk (i.e. with whole raw fats) make them even more potent

as healing foods, even for people who are following a more middle of the

road NT way. So watch your own body, pay attention to other items in your

diet that could be improved, and adjust as necessary. Sorry, that is the

best I can do in this limited forum.

I will say this, if you can eat fruit in moderation, you are not far away

from getting to where you can eat honey (just always do it with raw fat).

On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:50:35 -0500 " Deanna Buck "

<dbuck@...> writes:

Bianca,

Have you found that people continue to experience the highs and lows with

the unheated raw honey - as they did with other sugars?

Also, you mentioned in another post something about honey aiding chromium

deficiency. Would you please expand on this?

Finally, I just wanted to add that I completely agree with you about

selective eating and NT. I had learned that prior to reading the book.

No

sweetners, except stevia. After a year, I can eat homemade ice cream and

fruits in moderation. BUT - I would *love* to be able to eat honey!!!!

Although, I am quite worried what might happen if I do....

Thank you,

Deanna

[Guest guest]

At 03:51 PM 2/18/2002 -0800, you wrote:

>But I have found that unheated honey added to

>raw meats and milk (i.e. with whole raw fats) make them even more potent

>as healing foods, even for people who are following a more middle of the

>road NT way.

A good mixture is approximately a 1:5 ratio of honey:butter. Both are raw,

unheated/unpasteurized. A very potent healing mix that can be added, also

to meats and raw milk or eaten " neat " .

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Mark!

On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:19:35 -0800 theta sigma <thetasig@...>

writes:

At 03:51 PM 2/18/2002 -0800, you wrote:

>But I have found that unheated honey added to

>raw meats and milk (i.e. with whole raw fats) make them even more

potent

>as healing foods, even for people who are following a more middle of the

>road NT way.

A good mixture is approximately a 1:5 ratio of honey:butter. Both are

raw,

unheated/unpasteurized. A very potent healing mix that can be added,

also

to meats and raw milk or eaten " neat " .

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