Guest guest Posted February 14, 2002 Report Share Posted February 14, 2002 Yes, if anyone has yet to visit Dominic's kefir page, this is one you won't want to miss. I also belong to his kefir_making list (). Very informative group and Dominic is extremely tolerant of off-topics, unlike some list owners. Just look in his archives about kombucha. Here's his kefirpage: http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html And here is the web-site to find kefir grains in your area or if you'd like to share your kefir grains with others: http://66.46.11.99/clarkson/Show/son/kefir/default.asp For the person who hesitates to try kefir because she loves yogurt so much: Kefir is a beverage, not generally spoonable although I have made it spoonable like yogurt by draining off some of the whey. There are tons of uses for whey. Kefir can be made at any temperature above freezing up to room temperature. You can make it thick or thin, sour or mild, depending on temperature and culturing times and type of milk used. Very versatile You never need to heat the milk in preparation to culture kefir. Kefir grains love raw milk. It is much easier to make kefir than yogurt. Kefir grains adapt to their environment. When they grow you can use a small amount to put in other beverages. My latest experiment is two kefir grains in 1/4 cup honey water. It makes honey wine. Mmmm. I also have made a sort of grape carbonated beverage using grape juice. Almost like champagne. I try not to get it too alcoholic. I made the best ever sourkraut this past summer by adding some kefir to the brew. My husband told me it should have been entered into the fair. Kefir has many more varieties of friendly microorganisms. From Dom's site: LACTOBACILLI Lb. brevis Lb. cellobiosus Lb. acidophilus Lb. casei ssp.alactosus Lb. casei ssp. rhamnosus Lb. casei Lb. helveticus ssp. lactis Lb. delbrueckii ssp. lactis Lb. delbrueckii ssp. bulgaricus Lb. lactis Lb. fructivorans Lb. hilgardii Lb. kefir Lb. kefiranofaciens *Lb. kefirgranum sp. nov. *Lb parakefir sp. nov. STREPTOCOCCI/LACTOCOCCI Lc. lactis ssp. lactis Lc. lactis var. diacetylactis Lc. lactis ssp. cremoris S. salivarius ssp. thermophilus S. lactis Enterococcus durans Leuconostoc cremoris L. mesenteroides YEASTS Kluyveromyces lactis Kluyveromyces marxianus var. marxianus K. bulgaricus K. fragilis / marxianus Candida kefir C. pseudotropicalis Saccharomyces ssp. Torulopsis holmii ACETOBACTER Acetobacters aceti A. rasens I lost interest in making yogurt when I discovered kefir made from real kefir grains, 30 years ago. Marilyn Message: 14 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:25:22 -0600 From: Kroyer <skroyer@...> Subject: RE: how long does kefir last? From: Idol [mailto:Idol@...] > http://www.chariot.net.au/~dna/Makekefir.html > > It's quite enormous and chaotic, but there's a ton of > information about kefir and other uses for kefir grains. Oh my god! I want to take a week off work and spend it in the kitchen trying just half of the things this guy has done! He's either insane or a genius...not sure which. Anyone who has not been to this website yet...Go! No, seriously, go now! As for those of you still reading this because you've already been to the site, have you tried any of the seriously cool things he talks about: congetella, kefirkraut, kefir d'aqua, kefir d'uva? This stuff sounds incredible!! ===== " When our food refuse is discarded as waste, the natural human nutrient cycle is broken, creating problems such as pollution, loss of soil fertility, and abuse of our water resources. " Learn how to safely compost human manure. http://www.weblife.org/humanure/default.html __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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