Re: My experience with lipitor

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Les, I see from the ad that this pill is available at Longs drugs, and also Walgreens.

It is called Advocate........I liked it cuz it had the right niacin in it also....

OK ! Thanks a bunch for letting me know !

: )

Les

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Oh and also......I tired policosanol before......it was a good brand from health food store, but it disagreed with me.......this pill seems to be just fine....

Thanks for this info , it really helps ! I almost ordered from my usual vitamin company , but with this info , I will try this certain brand , because I have a lot of problems taking stuff, so many allergies .

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it came complete with two blood test kits.....I am anxious to take the other one in a month....

what state are you in??

Jill/Ca

That's great , being able to test the results ! I'm in Arizona . Les

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I have to ask....how do you get that color font??? I love it!

Thanks ! It's a blue I mixed myself from AOL color charts / custom colors ! The style is comic sans . Les

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I used to have aol but not any more.....so how do I get it????

Unless you are on AOL, I don't know how , wish I knew ! Does Yahoo have a place where you can choose a custom color ? Wish I could help out here ! Les

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it came complete with two blood test kits.....I am anxious to take the other one in a month....

what state are you in??

Jill/Ca

Re: My experience with lipitor

Les, I see from the ad that this pill is available at Longs drugs, and also Walgreens.

It is called Advocate........I liked it cuz it had the right niacin in it also....

OK ! Thanks a bunch for letting me know !

: )

Les

[Guest guest]

Oh and also......I tired policosanol before......it was a good brand from health food store, but it disagreed with me.......this pill seems to be just fine....

Re: My experience with lipitor

Les, I see from the ad that this pill is available at Longs drugs, and also Walgreens.

It is called Advocate........I liked it cuz it had the right niacin in it also....

OK ! Thanks a bunch for letting me know !

: )

Les

[Guest guest]

I have to ask....how do you get that color font??? I love it!

Re: My experience with lipitor

Oh and also......I tired policosanol before......it was a good brand from health food store, but it disagreed with me.......this pill seems to be just fine....

Thanks for this info , it really helps ! I almost ordered from my usual vitamin company , but with this info , I will try this certain brand , because I have a lot of problems taking stuff, so many allergies .

[Guest guest]

I used to have aol but not any more.....so how do I get it????

Re: My experience with lipitor

I have to ask....how do you get that color font??? I love it!

Thanks ! It's a blue I mixed myself from AOL color charts / custom colors ! The style is comic sans . Les

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Hi Les,

Thank you for your reply, and also for the offer to write you privately. I may just do that. ) It's frightening to hear that you were getting better until you started on a different med. That's what my doctor wants to do too, and I'm terrified. What if I get worse than I already am??? I'm just not willing to live out the rest of my life in this kind of pain, ya know? And the way I see it is, I'm 46, and have only developed high cholesterol recently. Something's gotta do me in eventually, so I would rather go by a heart attack, but have more quality of life now. Maybe that's the wrong mindset, but I'm just so afraid of getting worse.

Dyanne

Hi, Dyanne,

I think you're right, you know your own body, and your intuition is warning you! My DR didn't believe my symptoms, put me on another statin, and here I am, permanently damaged. When you look at all the people damaged on this board, and other boards as well, you know this damage is wide spread. The drug companies are trying to keep this quiet. I printed out the article by the board of neurology, about how they have connected neuropathy to using statins in some people. With documented proof, there isn't much they can say ... sadly, the damage is already done , though . Keep in touch,

Les.

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Yes Jill, I think increased cholesterol is just another side effect from the lack of hormones in our bodies. And bone loss too. UGH! Just what we need, to be unsteady on our feet and already in pain, and then have our bones thinning too.

DyanneJillie wrote:

Dyanne, menopause made my cholesterol go up......I was about your age.....little older.

I think it is a natural thing, or it wouldn't happen.....

My mind set is like yours I'm afraid...

Jill

Or the worse possible scenario- a hysterectomy before menopause would have happened naturally! My cholesterol went up, and for the first time in my life, I had high blood pressure, and had to go on meds for that. Les.

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That makes sense Linden. Our bodies really do need cholesterol, and even our brains are made up mostly of cholesterol. There has been some conspiracy theories on the darker side of government attempting to lower the cholesterol rates of citizens as a way to gain control over them in many ways. It's part of the NWO theme, for those who are interested.

Dyanne

OK, here's my conspiracy theory! The drug companies lost so much money when the truth came out about HRT and what it was doing to women, they needed another big money maker, so they lowered the healthy levels for cholesterol so many more thousands would be prescribed these toxic drugs, and are hoping that they make millions before the horrific truth comes out, that these drugs cause neuropathy, Alzheimer's, muscle wasting disease, and who knows what else they are doing to us! Les.

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so the drug companies without a horse in the hrt race decided they would get into it too? Alzheimers was around before statins. Statins may also prove in the long run to help Alzheimer's.

Neuropathy was around before statins. It is silly really to blame everything on the meds all the time.

Are all drugs toxic?

Here is what I don't get about this list. If cholesterol is good, why does anyone take anything for it. Why niacin, why Q10. Why not just let it go and let nature take it's course? I realize there needs to be victims and victimizers and so on, for your whole NWO conspiracy stuff to work out.

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what drug company do you own , work for or otherwise are involved in ??????????

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so the drug companies without a horse in the hrt race decided they would get into it too? Alzheimers was around before statins. Statins may also prove in the long run to help Alzheimer's.

The drug companies were making vast amounts off Premarin ,and other hrt's before the news came out that the HRT was more damaging than good for women . Statins are the snake oil of this century, a cure all for everything ..but yet there are people getting Alzheimers while on the statins ,but yet they are saying the statins cure Alzheimers , go figure ! My neighbor was in great physical shape, good mind , no illness , but her cholesterol was a little high, she went on Lipitor, and a year later, she had Alzheimers, then she died of a massive stroke . She never went off the Lipitor .

Neuropathy was around before statins. It is silly really to blame everything on the meds all the time.

I don't think you belong on this message board ....

Are all drugs toxic?

Here is what I don't get about this list. If cholesterol is good, why does anyone take anything for it. Why niacin, why Q10. Why not just let it go and let nature take it's course? I realize there needs to be victims and victimizers and so on, for your whole NWO conspiracy stuff to work out.

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so the drug companies without a horse in the hrt race decided they would get into it too? Alzheimers was around before statins. Statins may also prove in the long run to help Alzheimer's.

Neuropathy was around before statins. It is silly really to blame everything on the meds all the time.

Are all drugs toxic?

Here is what I don't get about this list. If cholesterol is good, why does anyone take anything for it. Why niacin, why Q10. Why not just let it go and let nature take it's course? I realize there needs to be victims and victimizers and so on, for your whole NWO conspiracy stuff to work out.

Re: My experience with lipitor

That makes sense Linden. Our bodies really do need cholesterol, and even our brains are made up mostly of cholesterol. There has been some conspiracy theories on the darker side of government attempting to lower the cholesterol rates of citizens as a way to gain control over them in many ways. It's part of the NWO theme, for those who are interested.

Dyanne

OK, here's my conspiracy theory! The drug companies lost so much money when the truth came out about HRT and what it was doing to women, they needed another big money maker, so they lowered the healthy levels for cholesterol so many more thousands would be prescribed these toxic drugs, and are hoping that they make millions before the horrific truth comes out, that these drugs cause neuropathy, Alzheimer's, muscle wasting disease, and who knows what else they are doing to us! Les.

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What trial lawyer do you work for or are you one yourself?

Re: My experience with lipitor

so the drug companies without a horse in the hrt race decided they would get into it too? Alzheimers was around before statins. Statins may also prove in the long run to help Alzheimer's.

Neuropathy was around before statins. It is silly really to blame everything on the meds all the time.

Are all drugs toxic?

Here is what I don't get about this list. If cholesterol is good, why does anyone take anything for it. Why niacin, why Q10. Why not just let it go and let nature take it's course? I realize there needs to be victims and victimizers and so on, for your whole NWO conspiracy stuff to work out.

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what drug company do you own , work for or otherwise are involved in ??????????

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Do you have the proof that a statin caused alzheimers? No of course you don't. This is a story that fits nicely into your hate statins and all statins are bad mantra. Yes people on statins get alzheimers disease. they also get broken legs. Did the statin cause them to break their leg? In your world I am sure the answer may be yes.

I did not say statins cured alzhiemers. I have seen no where that a company claimed a statin would cure alzheimers. But you take these stories and extrapolate these claims just to frighten people.

Am I saying statins are as safe as water? No of course not. But under the standards, world wide standards statins are safe if used correctly and they have helped millions of people.

There once was a bread mold..................................some said it nasty. Others said penicillin. And it saved millions and millions of lives.

Re: My experience with lipitor

so the drug companies without a horse in the hrt race decided they would get into it too? Alzheimers was around before statins. Statins may also prove in the long run to help Alzheimer's.

The drug companies were making vast amounts off Premarin ,and other hrt's before the news came out that the HRT was more damaging than good for women . Statins are the snake oil of this century, a cure all for everything ..but yet there are people getting Alzheimers while on the statins ,but yet they are saying the statins cure Alzheimers , go figure ! My neighbor was in great physical shape, good mind , no illness , but her cholesterol was a little high, she went on Lipitor, and a year later, she had Alzheimers, then she died of a massive stroke . She never went off the Lipitor .

Neuropathy was around before statins. It is silly really to blame everything on the meds all the time.

I don't think you belong on this message board ....

Are all drugs toxic?

Here is what I don't get about this list. If cholesterol is good, why does anyone take anything for it. Why niacin, why Q10. Why not just let it go and let nature take it's course? I realize there needs to be victims and victimizers and so on, for your whole NWO conspiracy stuff to work out.

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Les,

You got the picture! Uh-huh...

Dyanne

Yep, I think we all figured out from that nasty post what he was up to, in slamming all of our experiences and demeaning every one of us! Les .

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Do you have the proof that a statin caused alzheimers? No of course you don't. This is a story that fits nicely into your hate statins and all statins are bad mantra. Yes people on statins get alzheimers disease. they also get broken legs. Did the statin cause them to break their leg? In your world I am sure the answer may be yes.

Do you have proof that they DON'T ????????? No, of course you don't . But I've visited quite a few boards that have quite a number of people who got alzheimers after going on the statins ,and I mean young people , too, with no alzheimers in their families . You are highly insulting , and you need to go on a board where there are others of your kind that can relate to you . Those of us here are in pain and suffering ,and we don't need someone like you ridiculing us . I have documented proof that the board of neurology concluded that statins do indeed cause neuropathy in some people !!! My neurologist agreed with their conclusion , so what do you have to say about that !

I did not say statins cured alzhiemers. I have seen no where that a company claimed a statin would cure alzheimers. But you take these stories and extrapolate these claims just to frighten people.

Well, you haven't been reading a lot of newspapers lately, have you ! They do indeed promote statins as a preventive of alzheimers , my mistake saying it was a cure and not a preventive , but I don't see much of a difference .

Am I saying statins are as safe as water? No of course not. But under the standards, world wide standards statins are safe if used correctly and they have helped millions of people.

Yes, true, but they have also injured as many .

There once was a bread mold..................................some said it nasty. Others said penicillin. And it saved millions and millions of lives.

penicillin is no comparison to statins, get real !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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What trial lawyer do you work for or are you one yourself?

Actually, I'm not a lawyer , and you would be surprised to know that one of my daughter's is a DR , one is an insurance administrator, and my brother is a holistic health practioner , his girfriend is a world famous psychiatrist.My father , now deceased , was a pharmaceutical Rep , my mother was a hospital administrator ... so my family is all in the medical profession ! Now tell me what you do !!

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I can tell you what I do,NOTHING,but still have effects from LipitorBut,my one brother lives in Indonesia and is a Photographer for Time Magazine,myother brother lives in Tawaiin and is in the Hotel business BIG hotels,His one son is a BLIND lawyer in New Zealand and his other son is at Washington University in his last year of leaning to be a physiologist. My other brother is a schizophrenic and there are more of us in Vienna and I am in Missouri,

I'm confused, you weren't the one I was addressing before with this question, were you, not the same email address !

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I can tell you what I do,NOTHING,but still have effects from LipitorBut,my one brother lives in Indonesia and is a Photographer for Time Magazine,myother brother lives in Tawaiin and is in the Hotel business BIG hotels,His one son is a BLIND lawyer in New Zealand and his other son is at Washington University in his last year of leaning to be a physiologist. My other brother is a schizophrenic and there are more of us in Vienna and I am in Missouri,LesinAZ@... wrote:

What trial lawyer do you work for or are you one yourself?

Actually, I'm not a lawyer , and you would be surprised to know that one of my daughter's is a DR , one is an insurance administrator, and my brother is a holistic health practioner , his girfriend is a world famous psychiatrist.My father , now deceased , was a pharmaceutical Rep , my mother was a hospital administrator ... so my family is all in the medical profession ! Now tell me what you do !!

I thought I was talking to Matt, what is going on here ?

[Guest guest]

No, I am not,but we all can brag, I know we can, and I KNOW how Lipitor affected me and I wish I could go back to my life BEFORE Lipitor,

I wasn't bragging ,sorry if it seemed that way ; Matt accused me of being a trial lawyer, and I told him I was far from it, by telling him I come from a medical family ! I guess you got in on only part of what was going on , or are you a friend of his ???? Les .

[Guest guest]

Hey, you have a right to brag.,you have a great family. By coming in on the end of the conversation, I thought the person telling us about all the Medical people in the family was this Matt......No,I have no clue who he is but I think he belongs on the other board,

Thanks for clearing this up! I think we're all mad at him, he doesn't belong here! I had never planned on mentioning who my family is, but when I asked him if he works for or owns a drug company, his retort was to ask me if I was a trial lawyer, so I wanted to make the point that this was in no way the reason that I was upset with what he was saying! Whew, I'm sure glad we cleared that up, I wouldn't want anyone to think I was him, LOL! Just to update you on who I am, I am Les, and I was diagnosed with peripheral neuropathy after taking first Crestor, and then Provachal. The neuropathy first appeared after taking Crestor, I went off the drug, the neuropathy went away, the DR put me on Provachal, the neuropathy returned with avengeance, and I'm in pain 24/7 . Les.

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PS, looks like Matt is indeed a drug rep, just as I thought ! My own father was one, and he believed in all the drugs he sold...they ended up killing him,he was on so many prescription drugs that they messed up his body and he died at the young age of 56 . Les .