RE: Another perspective on the high fat notion.

July 21, 2002

Each person processes carbs differently, to some extent, so there will

never be a general guideline that applies to everyone. Each of us will

always have to learn what works for us, within broad guidelines.

There is no question that a diabetic needs to eat a controlled carbohydrate

diet, the exact amount depending on the individual and exercise

levels. Fat is more easily understood, actually, most of what the medical

establishment has told us for the past 30 years is false.

Dan

July 21, 2002

Thanks for this article, it is heartening to see it after a week of hearing

how bad low fat diets are for diabetics. I have been on a low fat high

fiber diet since the fourteenth of January, with a 33 pound weight loss and

better control of my sugars than I have ever had. LaWanda

July 22, 2002

Hi Rose, I have been trying to give up cokes, but just can't seem to do it.

I guess it might be in my head, but its real hard. I am also trying to lose

weight. You said that you gave up cokes and I wanted to ask if that was all

at once or did you do it a little at a time? Also did you drink regular

cokes or the diet ones. Did you have headaches from the caffeen withdrawal?

I hope you don't mind me asking you these questions, but like I said I'm

really trying to give up cokes myself. Also what kind of cooling system is

evaporative cooling? I haven't heard of it. It. really sounds like that you

have good control of your blood sugars.

Thanks,

Debbie

Re: Another perspective on the high fat

> notion.

>

> Each person processes carbs differently, to some extent, so there will

> never be a general guideline that applies to everyone. Each of us will

> always have to learn what works for us, within broad guidelines.

>

> There is no question that a diabetic needs to eat a controlled

carbohydrate

> diet, the exact amount depending on the individual and exercise

> levels. Fat is more easily understood, actually, most of what the medical

> establishment has told us for the past 30 years is false.

>

> Dan

>

July 22, 2002

This will probably start a war, however, in the past several months, since

my diagnosis of diabetes, I have been eating pretty much the same things I

have always eaten, with a few exceptions but, I have been eating less of

those things and until it got too hot here, was exercising. My blood sugars

range from about 75 to 105, and even things I'd think would really jolt me

have not. I eat ice cream about once every four to six weeks and generally

have a blood sugar of about 95 afterwards. My really big change was to give

up Coke. I have lost about 30 pounds, (I am at a standstill this summer

which is no surprise since it has been over 105 degrees here most days since

mid June).

In short, I am more or less using the general guidelines of the food

pyramid, eating fruits, veggies, some grains, some meats a bit of this and

that, and about once every six months or so I even have real chocolate and

still my blood sugars are doing well.

I am opposed to high protein, almost no carbohydrate diets, they just don't

make sense to me, and it is my thought that if you have to use the word diet

to describe your eating plan, you probably won't stick to it for a lifetime.

My key thus far has been to cut portion sizes drastically, to increase

fruits and vegetables, even the supposedly starchy veggies don't affect my

glucose by more than a point or two. I did better when I could get on the

treadmill more often, but with it being over 110 here much of the time, and

my house being cooled with evaporative cooling instead of air conditioning I

have slacked off on the exercise and probably will until after Labor Day.

That means I am not eating really high fat content foods, and am staying

away from refined sugars but, it is summer, and unless I see a significant

boost in blood sugar, I will continue to enjoy occasional ice cream.

You all have to do what you are comfortable with or what will work for you,

so far, I am doing what I consider a sensible approach, one that doesn't

make me constantly think of what I can never ever have again.

Rose Combs

rosecombs@...

Re: Another perspective on the high fat

notion.

Each person processes carbs differently, to some extent, so there will

never be a general guideline that applies to everyone. Each of us will

always have to learn what works for us, within broad guidelines.

There is no question that a diabetic needs to eat a controlled carbohydrate

diet, the exact amount depending on the individual and exercise

levels. Fat is more easily understood, actually, most of what the medical

establishment has told us for the past 30 years is false.

Dan

July 22, 2002

Rose, you are fortunate, and frankly, I wonder if you really do have

diabetes. Not saying you do not, but your sugars are so well controlled

and you can eat so many things that are usually out of reach for most of us

that I wonder about the diagnosis.

Dan

July 22, 2002

Dan, I have been a diabetic for 12 years.

I eat practically the same thing that Rose does, and my sugars range from

75 to 125.

I just eat in moderation, and there is a few things that i won't eat.

Such as tomato sause. and pizza.

But that is about the only limitations I have.

I never have been one to drink soft drinks.

I prefer water instead but I did that when I wasn't diabetic.

Dave

> Rose, you are fortunate, and frankly, I wonder if you really do have

> diabetes. Not saying you do not, but your sugars are so well controlled

> and you can eat so many things that are usually out of reach for most of us

> that I wonder about the diagnosis.

>

> Dan

>

July 22, 2002

You are doing the thing that is right for you, rose. Good luck with the

weight loss. Do you kive in Arizona to have temperatures like that?

Re: Another perspective on the high fat

notion.

Each person processes carbs differently, to some extent, so there will

never be a general guideline that applies to everyone. Each of us will

always have to learn what works for us, within broad guidelines.

There is no question that a diabetic needs to eat a controlled carbohydrate

diet, the exact amount depending on the individual and exercise

levels. Fat is more easily understood, actually, most of what the medical

establishment has told us for the past 30 years is false.

Dan

July 23, 2002

Until last October I would not be daught dead drinking diet coke, I still

don't care much for the flavor, but, October 18 was my last day of drinking

coke, the day my doctor confirmed my guess that I had diabetes.

For a while I tried to not drink even the diet because I disliked the

flavors, but eventually I started drinking diet Pepsi occasionally, diet A & W

rootbeer because the root beer flavor more or less made the diet flavor not

noticeable, diet cherry coke occasionally. I drink diet coke when there is

no choice--it seems to have the worst after taste.

In April when I inadverently took too much medication I did need to drink a

real coke, and it would be so easy to go back, it tasted much better, but, I

drank only about six ounces of that one because my blood sugar was around

40.

I drink lots of water, green tea, regular tea and diet Pepsi about three

times a week.

I used to drink three to five cokes, the real ones a day before this

happened, so, yes, I did cut back a lot especially at first when I could not

stand the taste of the diet sodas.