Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Consider evaluating for tongue tie, posterior tt as well. Are any of you using the Hazelbaker tongue tie assessment tool in your workplace? We are considering incorporating this tool into our evaluations in order to better communicate the nature/extent of possible ankyloglossia to providers who may clip. > > Hello to you all, > I'm going to see a client this weekend who is having trouble getting her baby's tongue to > cooperate. Sounds like her tongue stays backed up in her mouth and she's chomping on the > breast. > Baby is 4 weeks old. They've tried many positions, nipple shield and working on latch but > Mom stopped breastfeeding 2 weeks ago and is now pumping and bottle feeding. When I see > her I may understand more of the picture. But I wanted to ask you all for advice on > techniques to help with tongue trouble or suck training. > > I've helped one mom with the problem previously with only moderate success. We tried the > charm hold but with little grace and I think I frustrated her more than anything. For that > mom we ended up getting baby into a better position with a serious asymmetrical latch. > > I'd feel better going in this time with a few things to try. Are there any tricks out there that > have worked for you in the past? Any tips on the charm hold or suck training. I've read and > read and read but it's sort of hard to get the whole picture with just text. > > Any help would be GREAT! > Thanks in advance, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Hi, Has baby already been evaluated by an ENT?? -- Denniston, Alamo, CA -------------- Original message -------------- Hello to you all,I'm going to see a client this weekend who is having trouble getting her baby's tongue to cooperate. Sounds like her tongue stays backed up in her mouth and she's chomping on the breast.Baby is 4 weeks old. They've tried many positions, nipple shield and working on latch but Mom stopped breastfeeding 2 weeks ago and is now pumping and bottle feeding. When I see her I may understand more of the picture. But I wanted to ask you all for advice on techniques to help with tongue trouble or suck training.I've helped one mom with the problem previously with only moderate success. We tried the charm hold but with little grace and I think I frustrated her more than anything. For that mom we ended up getting baby into a better position with a serious asymmetrical latch. I'd feel better going in this time with a few things to try. Are there any tricks out there that have worked for you in the past? Any tips on the cha rm hold or suck training. I've read and read and read but it's sort of hard to get the whole picture with just text.Any help would be GREAT!Thanks in advance, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Hello, . It may be that this baby has a tongue tie, either "traditional" or posterior. But I've also seen similar action in babies who can both lift and extend their tongues well, i.e. no evidence of tongue ties. These babies have all had a stiff neck in common. The 26 muscles in the tongue actually intertwine with the neck muscles, so if the neck muscles aren't moving freely, then often the baby will move his tongue as though he has a tongue tie when in fact he does not. Pediatric craniosacral therapy or pediatric chiropractic can be very helpful in these situations. You can go to www.lowmilksupply.org/craniosacral.shtml for more info on symptoms that can suggest when CST or pediatric chiropractic might be helpful. No baby has all the symptoms listed there, but even consistently showing one or two can have serious impact on breastfeeding. Dee Kassing Subject: Tongue TroubleTo: Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 4:29 PM Hello to you all,I'm going to see a client this weekend who is having trouble getting her baby's tongue to cooperate. Sounds like her tongue stays backed up in her mouth and she's chomping on the breast.Baby is 4 weeks old. They've tried many positions, nipple shield and working on latch but Mom stopped breastfeeding 2 weeks ago and is now pumping and bottle feeding. When I see her I may understand more of the picture. But I wanted to ask you all for advice on techniques to help with tongue trouble or suck training.I've helped one mom with the problem previously with only moderate success. We tried the charm hold but with little grace and I think I frustrated her more than anything. For that mom we ended up getting baby into a better position with a serious asymmetrical latch. I'd feel better going in this time with a few things to try. Are there any tricks out there that have worked for you in the past? Any tips on the charm hold or suck training. I've read and read and read but it's sort of hard to get the whole picture with just text.Any help would be GREAT!Thanks in advance, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Hello and thanks for the input thus far! I forgot a very important piece, the baby has already had a frenotomy but it didn't make a difference. She's met with the ENT, pediatricians, a LC and doulas and no one has been able to help her thus far. No pressure there ; ) I was just speaking with a craniosacral therapist this evening so I think I'll definitely bring her card with me. The muscles of the neck as they relate to the tongue completely makes sense to me. I'm pretty sure that was what was going on with the last baby. Thanks again! If you're interested I can report back. Best, > > > Subject: Tongue Trouble > To: > Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 4:29 PM > > > > > > > Hello to you all, > I'm going to see a client this weekend who is having > trouble getting her baby's tongue to > cooperate. Sounds like her tongue stays backed up in her > mouth and she's chomping on the > breast. > Baby is 4 weeks old. They've tried many positions, > nipple shield and working on latch but > Mom stopped breastfeeding 2 weeks ago and is now pumping > and bottle feeding. When I see > her I may understand more of the picture. But I wanted to > ask you all for advice on > techniques to help with tongue trouble or suck training. > > I've helped one mom with the problem previously with > only moderate success. We tried the > charm hold but with little grace and I think I frustrated > her more than anything. For that > mom we ended up getting baby into a better position with a > serious asymmetrical latch. > > I'd feel better going in this time with a few things to > try. Are there any tricks out there that > have worked for you in the past? Any tips on the charm hold > or suck training. I've read and > read and read but it's sort of hard to get the whole > picture with just text. > > Any help would be GREAT! > Thanks in advance, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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