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My son is 10 and he had a habit of picking things up to take home.

He stopped doing it when I repeatedly told him that I did not need

it and he does not need it. However he still picks up rocks. I

just tell him to put it in the garden.

He also scratches himself till his legs were fill with bumps. When

he was in public school, he was checked out for possible abuse. I

think my son scratch and pick because he finds a bump. The more he

scratch and pick, the more bumps he gets, and that will cause him to

do it more. When he was 8, he felt a bump on my arm and tried to

pick it off. I mean he really dug his nails into me. He still

scratch himself, but the leg does not look too bad. I just put

Hydrocortisone cream over it, and tell him 'Not to touch'.

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> >> > ---

> >> > This is EXACTLY what is happening with my 10 yr. old son. He

is a

> >> > straight A student, diagnosed with OCD last spring, put on 20

mg

> >> > Paxil (before I knew about other therapies like CBT)

Counselor

> >> never

> >> > mentioned other courses of therapy. I just discovered other

avenues

> >> > since reading Dr. Tamar Chansky's book, " Freeing Your Child

from

> >> OCD. "

> >> > Since beginning 4th grade, he is now exhibiting ADD symptoms,

> >> tested

> >> > and " labeled " ADD. I am so confused and dumbfounded on what

to do.

> >> > His grades go from A's to F's, and can't pay attention in

class. I

> >> > have an appointment with a new counselor next week. I would

like

> >> to

> >> > take him off the Paxil and try to help him deal with the

anxious

> >> > thoughts. I am glad to find a " buddy " to dicuss things

with. How

> >> > old is your daughter. Like you, the " ADD " symptoms just came

on

> >> > overnight.

> >>

> >

> >

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First of all. . . (((((Alana)))))) I just want to give you a big hug,

because I can relate to what you are going through.

Oh, boy, I've been there, Alana. . . On the verge of tears, every day,

trying to cope and get through it. Some days, I would go have my

daily nervous breakdown in the shower. Then I would paste back on my

" everything's going to be fine " face, and push through the rest of the

day.

Is there a reason the therapist isn't doing ERP too, at this time?

The ERP, helped our son move forward, much quicker than the CBT. The

ERP gave him confidence to move forward with the CBT, even.

What approach is he having your son take with the CBT? I had read a

lot about " naming " the OCD something, then bossing it back. But, our

son found that to feel silly to him. So, his therapist had him think

of it more like junk email. You see it and recognize it as junk,

something that isn't important, and doesn't need your attention. . So,

you delete it. He was told to apply that to his OCD thoughts by

recognizing and understanding they were OCD, then give them no serious

attention. . Don't buy into it, next disregard them as unimportant,

and try to move on. That seemed to work for him a lot better.

A lot of what you described is how our son was too. Very imaginative.

Very focused on things. They would occupy his thoughts all the time.

He would draw pictures of them (whatever his newest thing was). When

he was 3, he was so focused on vacuums, that he would go around

spelling the names of them. It would freak people out. lol We had

no idea that he had OCD then, but knew he did these quirky things and

wondered why. Later, I even wondered if some of it could even be

Aspergers, but he didn't fit a lot of the criteria, so I don't think

that's it.

Our son tends to be a brainiac, but went through a time where his OCD

interfered so much with his mind, that he couldn't shut it up enough

to focus on his schoolwork. It sounds like, from what you described,

that is possibly what is going on with your son. We homeschooled, so

it was easy to be flexible for him, until he was doing better. For

us, at that time, it was medication that helped. We relied on doctors

to help us, and didn't realize how few there are out there and even

understand OCD.

I haven't had to deal with a school system as we've maneuvered our way

through the chaos of OCD, so I'm not sure the exact steps needed to

deal with schools. Many in here have been through it though, and I'm

sure they can help. A couple of suggestions. . You can try a number

of things. .You can search the files, run a search on past posts with

the subject of IEP or 504 plan, or you can send a post with that in

the subject line to alert those who know and understand it, who can

answer your questions. This is very helpful, understanding bunch.

I'm sure you will get those who are in " the know " , who can suggest

helpful things.

Skin picking is not uncommon. There are many in here who've mentioned

it. Hopefully, they will see this and can chime in with suggestions.

I know one thing I've read in here, is give them something else to do

with their hands when they are inclined to pick.

You are not alone, Alana. Many in here know and " get " what you are

dealing with. It can get better, so keep your hope.

Just a year and a half ago, our son (now 16) was off of medication and

had relapsed horribly. He was so bad, he couldn't get off of the

sofa. He was out of school for a half of a year. He was in the fetal

position, white faced, clenched, and moaning out loud, ever minute of

the day. He seldom ate, hardly slept, and was completely overwhelmed

by his OCD and GAD (generalized anxiety disorder). (It is not

uncommon for kid with OCD to also deal with another anxiety issues.)

He was also having occasional panic attacks. We spent months that

way, while we waited for medication to help, and I searched, daily,

for a someone who understood the treatment of OCD. Well, fast forward

a bit. He is doing so much better now. He is driving now, and drives

himself to and from and vocational school where he is taking computer

programming. He is living the best life he can. So, even though, OCD

can be so disabling, it can also be turned around with the correct

treatment. It will always wax and wane. . That is the nature of it.

But, there is also hope. You are doing the right things.

I'm really glad you are here, Alana. This is a good, supportive

group. You will find many here who've been there, and/or are there,

currently. You can vent here, share your feelings here, and get

helpful information here. And if you didn't already know, we also

have access to some great doctor's, who know and understand OCD. You

can ask them questions anytime. If you go to the home page, you can

see who is available for questions. If you want to use that option,

just put the doctor's name in the subject line. Louis forward's it to

them, then they answer to the group.

Another hug,

BJ

> >> >

> >> > ---

> >> > This is EXACTLY what is happening with my 10 yr. old son. He is a

> >> > straight A student, diagnosed with OCD last spring, put on 20 mg

> >> > Paxil (before I knew about other therapies like CBT) Counselor

> >> never

> >> > mentioned other courses of therapy. I just discovered other avenues

> >> > since reading Dr. Tamar Chansky's book, " Freeing Your Child from

> >> OCD. "

> >> > Since beginning 4th grade, he is now exhibiting ADD symptoms,

> >> tested

> >> > and " labeled " ADD. I am so confused and dumbfounded on what to do.

> >> > His grades go from A's to F's, and can't pay attention in class. I

> >> > have an appointment with a new counselor next week. I would like

> >> to

> >> > take him off the Paxil and try to help him deal with the anxious

> >> > thoughts. I am glad to find a " buddy " to dicuss things with. How

> >> > old is your daughter. Like you, the " ADD " symptoms just came on

> >> > overnight.

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > Our list archives,links, and files features may be accessed at:

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group// .

> > Our list advisors are Gail B. ,

Ed.D.(http://www.ocdawareness.com ),

> > Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), Dan Geller,

M.D.

> > (http://massgeneral.org/pediatricpsych/staff/geller.html ),Aureen

Pinto

> > Wagner, Ph.D., ( http://www.lighthouse-press.com ). You may ask a

question

> > of any of these mental health professionals by inserting the words

" Ask

> > Dr.(insert name) " in the subject line of a post to the list. Our

list

> > moderators are Castle, Judy Chabot, and BJ Closner.

Subscription

> > issues or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list

> > administrator, at louisharkins@... . Our group and related groups

> > are listed at

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ocdsupportgroups/links

> > .

> >

> >

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