Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 friends as i practiced and took training for 6 years on martial arts,Tibetan Rites are not unknown to me at all.but the thing is one can't continue that if he/she has backpain or has problem in waist.but yoga is a thing you won't get hurt,it will make you stronger from inside your body strengthning your immunity.with the bullworker you may be getting strong from outside but not improving your immune system.so with the growing age it's better to migrate to Yoga than pulling the string of Bully. what do U people say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Sloppy thinking. You can " get hurt at " virtually any activity and yoga is certainly no exception. If you want proof, I will send you the bills for rehabbing my knee, which I injured doing Yoga under an instructors gaze. Regarding Yoga and the immune system, I would love to see the research on this one. Claims are easy, science hard. Indeed, almost any exercise has an impact on the immune system. However, few can agree on what that is. Yoga is great and I do it from time to time. However, many proponents ascribe benefits to Yoga that simply don't exist. Can you get stronger from Yoga? Yes, esp the strength that you need to do Yoga. I doubt any strength athletes would rely on Yoga for their strength development. However, they certainly can use it for flexibility and agility purposes. PS-The Five Tibetans are yoga postures. > > friends as i practiced and took training for 6 years on martial > arts,Tibetan Rites are not unknown to me at all.but the thing is one > can't continue that if he/she has backpain or has problem in waist.but > yoga is a thing you won't get hurt,it will make you stronger from > inside your body strengthning your immunity.with the bullworker you may > be getting strong from outside but not improving your immune system.so > with the growing age it's better to migrate to Yoga than pulling the > string of Bully. > what do U people say? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 yes...Yoga builds up muscular strength obvoisly...visit these links bellow.. http://www.yogashala.com.au/mayurasana.jpg http://classical-yoga.com/Utthita%20Padmasana.jpg http://ashtangayoga.info/asana-vinyasa/intermediate-series/12b-Bakasana-B.jpg don't u think u need highest level of fitness and strength to do all these?...there are more like these...but to give u a very short intro and glimpse about what i am saying ...these are enough i suppose... learn Yoga from a good qualified teacher,u won't get hurt beleive me. and regarding immunity...just Google it...visit few Yoga site...and ofcourse there are many persons benefited from Yoga and Pranayama...talk to a doctor...there are even few medical cases where people benefited a lot from Yoga and Pranayama controlling blood pressure and sugar level... so do a quick search on these all things in Google.. good luck friends Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 First off, this is a Bullworker site, dedicated to using the BW for fitness. If you want to do yoga fine. If you want to extol Yoga, then go join a Yoga group and extol away. Specific to strength, I indicated quite clearly that yoga can be used to build strength for doing Yoga. However, if you want to arm wrestle, play football, box etc. Good luck with doing just Yoga. All strength training is action specific, the closer to the action you want, the better the training. So, for example, go do Sun Salutes exclusively for 10 yrs and them meet me in the weight room.. I think the point is clear. You can do Sun Salutes better, I can kick your A88 in the weight room. Specific to injury, if you peruse the Yoga forums on the web. there are TONS of people with Yoga related injuries. Were ALL of those teachers studpid??? And yes, you can Google and find wonderful benefits ascribed to Yoga, and just about everything else in the world. Have a nice day. > > yes...Yoga builds up muscular strength obvoisly...visit these links bellow.. > > http://www.yogashala.com.au/mayurasana.jpg > http://classical-yoga.com/Utthita%20Padmasana.jpg > http://ashtangayoga.info/asana-vinyasa/intermediate-series/12b- Bakasana-B.jpg > don't u think u need highest level of fitness and strength to do all these?...there are more like these...but to give u a very short intro and glimpse about what i am saying ...these are enough i suppose... > learn Yoga from a good qualified teacher,u won't get hurt beleive me. > and regarding immunity...just Google it...visit few Yoga site...and ofcourse there are many persons benefited from Yoga and Pranayama...talk to a doctor...there are even few medical cases where people benefited a lot from Yoga and Pranayama controlling blood pressure and sugar level... > so do a quick search on these all things in Google.. > good luck friends > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 I think the point is clear here. This is a site dedicated to thebullworker. Let us remain faithful to this equipment. If you guyswant to supplement isometrics with yoga, free weights...go ahead. Butthe focus (of this group) should be on the bullworker. Those of uswho have been in the game for long, exercise related injuries aresomething we had to live with sometime or the other. But it does notmean we need to establish superiority of one form of exercise over theother solely based on “injury rates”. I think we should all remember thegolden rule of “moderation” when it comes to any form of exercise.Exercise is stimulating the muscle group, not killing it. Quoting rrbelloff@...: > First off, this is a Bullworker site,dedicated to using the BW for fitness. If you want to do yoga fine. Ifyou want to extol Yoga, then go join a Yoga group and extolaway. Specific to strength, I indicated quite clearly that yoga canbe used to build strength for doing Yoga. However, if you want to arm wrestle, play football, box etc. Good luck with doing just Yoga. All strength training is action specific, the closer to the action you want, the better the training. So, for example, go do Sun Salutesexclusively for 10 yrs and them meet me in the weight room.. I thinkthe point is clear. You can do Sun Salutes better, I can kick your A88in the weight room. Specific to injury, if you peruse the Yoga forumson the web. there are TONS of people with Yoga related injuries. WereALL of those teachers studpid??? And yes, you can Google and findwonderful benefits ascribed to Yoga, and just about everything else inthe world. Have a nice day. > > yes...Yoga builds upmuscular strength obvoisly...visit these links bellow.. > > http://www.yogashala.com.au/mayurasana.jpg > http://classical-yoga.com/Utthita%20Padmasana.jpg > http://ashtangayoga.info/asana-vinyasa/intermediate-series/12b- Bakasana-B.jpg > don't u think u need highest level of fitness and strengthto do all these?...there are more like these...but to give u a veryshort intro and glimpse about what i am saying ...these are enough i suppose... > learn Yoga from a good qualified teacher,u won't gethurt beleive me. > and regarding immunity...just Google it...visitfew Yoga site...and ofcourse there are many persons benefited fromYoga and Pranayama...talk to a doctor...there are even few medicalcases where people benefited a lot from Yoga and Pranayama controllingblood pressure and sugar level... > so do a quick search on theseall things in Google.. > good luck friends > > >--------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, andknow-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > Now book your Railway Tickets by cash at Sify Iway. For more details contact our Customer Care Watch latest movie trailers and behind the scenes footage of Bigg Boss and much more! www.sifymax.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Well said. Thanks > > > > yes...Yoga builds up muscular strength obvoisly...visit these links > bellow.. > > > > http://www.yogashala.com.au/mayurasana.jpg > > http://classical-yoga.com/Utthita%20Padmasana.jpg > > http://ashtangayoga.info/asana-vinyasa/intermediate-series/12b- > Bakasana-B.jpg > > don't u think u need highest level of fitness and strength to do > all these?...there are more like these...but to give u a very short > intro and glimpse about what i am saying ...these are enough i > suppose... > > learn Yoga from a good qualified teacher,u won't get hurt beleive > me. > > and regarding immunity...just Google it...visit few Yoga > site...and ofcourse there are many persons benefited from Yoga and > Pranayama...talk to a doctor...there are even few medical cases where > people benefited a lot from Yoga and Pranayama controlling blood > pressure and sugar level... > > so do a quick search on these all things in Google.. > > good luck friends > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. > Try it now. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 actually u guys are misunderstanding my point. i am not aginst Bullworker or weight training.remember my post title was "if u can't carry ur bully while travelling then what are the other means of exercise to keep ourselves fit"...wasn't it? and dear rrbelloff i have done intensive weight training in my martial arts school days(and for ur kind information i am a black belt in Ashihara Kai Kan which is the strongest full contact style of Karate)...so forget about kicking my "A88" in weight room...and please do respect other members and i shall be highly obliged to u if u don't use such abusive languege in future,thank u. only bullworker or only weight training will not be sufficient to achieve maximum fitness level.to reach fitness level at it's hieghest level u need to practice a combination of cardio+bully+yoga...yoga gives flexibility,cardio gives energy and controls heart rate and bully strengthens our muscles...so it's no point to be faithfull to a particular exercise regime... what do u say folks? Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Another country heard from?> > > ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!! > > > On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 rajdeep mandal wrote : > >actually u guys are misunderstanding my point. > > i am not aginst Bullworker or weight training.remember my post title was " if u can't carry ur bully while travelling then what are the other means of exercise to keep ourselves fit " ...wasn't it? > > and dear rrbelloff i have done intensive weight training in my martial arts school days(and for ur kind information i am a black belt in Ashihara Kai Kan which is the strongest full contact style of Karate)...so forget about kicking my " A88 " in weight room...and please do respect other members and i shall be highly obliged to u if u don't use such abusive languege in future,thank u. > > only bullworker or only weight training will not be sufficient to achieve maximum fitness level.to reach fitness level at it's hieghest level u need to practice a combination of cardio+bully+yoga...yoga gives flexibility,cardio gives energy and controls heart rate and bully strengthens our muscles...so it's no point to be faithfull to a particular exercise regime... > > what do u say folks? > > > > > >--------------------------------- > >Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Gentlemen, It is my humble opinion, that outside routines definitely add spice to this forum. After almost 3 years, if one reviews the input of outside “Bullworker” posts, it is truly minimal and in most cases provides “food for thought.” The Bullworker is not limited to just Isometric use, nor is it pure isometrics as the device does not provide true fixed resistance anytime the unit is compressed. By reviewing the original routines listed the first booklets, many versatile uses are explained that are extremely beneficial. Granted, the large Isometric study performed by the Max-Planck Institute is well documented in its results, however their tests necessitated a spring-device for being able to measure improvement, hence the Bullworker popularity with Isometrics. Dynamic Tension® and Iso-Motion® are very similar in principle, the major difference being one can use Bullworker principles of resistance in lieu of pressing ones hands together as advocated by . There are no studies specifically done on Iso-Motion, but it does not change the principles involved and can be viewed as very Pharisaical to deny its benefits due to lack of a scientific study. This Forum is made up of everyday people that comprises of many years of experience in fitness routines. We share the common bond of belief in Bullworker results… not as the Holy Grail, but as an extremely effective and versatile device used in fitness. I personally find it one of the best additions to any type of cross-training there is. That means it compliments a lot of other fitness routines. It also is an extremely effective stand-alone fitness device. Yoga has personally helped me in my Bullworker routine. Some people might call it “stretching” or even Pilates. None of these routines has taken me away from my Bullworker. Bullworker & weights… maybe a conflict. Any type of body stretching or movement alone… what is the threat? They own a Bullworker and obviously use it. This Forum can stand outside discussion of complimentary fitness routines other than the Bullworker all the time. In reviewing many, many past posts over the last 3 years, the members have done an excellent job of keeping the topic current and focus besides enlightening. Our Bow Product line has come under criticism for not being a Bullworker. Tony , the owner and founder of this site, did not have a problem with it, nor do any of the 1,000’s of users who have purchased it. A rose is a rose by any other name. There are civilized ways to make our points and usually a couple words of caution from fellow members suffice. Have a great day, Bullworker rrbelloff wrote: Another country heard from?>>> ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!> > > On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 rajdeep mandal wrote :> >actually u guys are misunderstanding my point.> > i am not aginst Bullworker or weight training.remember my post title was "if u can't carry ur bully while travelling then what are the other means of exercise to keep ourselves fit"...wasn't it?> > and dear rrbelloff i have done intensive weight training in my martial arts school days(and for ur kind information i am a black belt in Ashihara Kai Kan which is the strongest full contact style of Karate)...so forget about kicking my "A88" in weight room...and please do respect other members and i shall be highly obliged to u if u don't use such abusive languege in future,thank u.> > only bullworker or only weight training will not be sufficient to achieve maximum fitness level.to reach fitness level at it's hieghest level u need to practice a combination of cardio+bully+yoga...yoga gives flexibility,cardio gives energy and controls heart rate and bully strengthens our muscles...so it's no point to be faithfull to a particular exercise regime...> > what do u say folks?> >> >> >---------------------------------> >Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 , All this hoopla started with the following post: " keep urself strong and fit if u practice Sun Salutation.it's a combination >of 12 Yoga posture which gives tremendous strength(believe me)and >confidence with fitness at it's level best. " Sorry, but as I indicated before, the only " tremendous strength " that a Sun Salute will yield is to do Sun Salutes. It is a very nice flexibility and limbering move indeed. I am happy to understand where I might have erred. As to Yoga, as I have said maybe ten times, I do it and I like it. It is simply not the " total fitness " tool as was represented by our new poster. Moreover, while we have always been open about discussing most things fitness related, this is not primarily a Yoga forum. If one wants to delve into the practice of yoga, there are tons of sites available. > > > > ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!! > > > > > > On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 rajdeep mandal wrote : > > >actually u guys are misunderstanding my point. > > > i am not aginst Bullworker or weight training.remember my post > title was " if u can't carry ur bully while travelling then what are > the other means of exercise to keep ourselves fit " ...wasn't it? > > > and dear rrbelloff i have done intensive weight training in my > martial arts school days(and for ur kind information i am a black > belt in Ashihara Kai Kan which is the strongest full contact style of > Karate)...so forget about kicking my " A88 " in weight room...and > please do respect other members and i shall be highly obliged to u if > u don't use such abusive languege in future,thank u. > > > only bullworker or only weight training will not be sufficient > to achieve maximum fitness level.to reach fitness level at it's > hieghest level u need to practice a combination of > cardio+bully+yoga...yoga gives flexibility,cardio gives energy and > controls heart rate and bully strengthens our muscles...so it's no > point to be faithfull to a particular exercise regime... > > > what do u say folks? > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > >Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 WOW - excellent and well thought out post , Thank you. Since this thread started with a question about travel with/without a bullworker, I can state that I have been away from home for a week now with my steelbow and it has been perfect. It fit into the groove of the handle assembly of my very small suitcase like it was made for it. It is small enough that I can do my UBWO in my room and not use the motel workout room except for LBWO/cardio. I have never liked to do yoga in a motel room because I don't want to have my hands or body on the carpet but I followed the UB isotonic/isometrics with some isomotion reps and got a super workout with all the benefits of yoga. What a great product. Inga > > > > ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!! > > > > > > On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 rajdeep mandal wrote : > > >actually u guys are misunderstanding my point. > > > i am not aginst Bullworker or weight training.remember my post > title was " if u can't carry ur bully while travelling then what are > the other means of exercise to keep ourselves fit " ...wasn't it? > > > and dear rrbelloff i have done intensive weight training in my > martial arts school days(and for ur kind information i am a black > belt in Ashihara Kai Kan which is the strongest full contact style of > Karate)...so forget about kicking my " A88 " in weight room...and > please do respect other members and i shall be highly obliged to u if > u don't use such abusive languege in future,thank u. > > > only bullworker or only weight training will not be sufficient > to achieve maximum fitness level.to reach fitness level at it's > hieghest level u need to practice a combination of > cardio+bully+yoga...yoga gives flexibility,cardio gives energy and > controls heart rate and bully strengthens our muscles...so it's no > point to be faithfull to a particular exercise regime... > > > what do u say folks? > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > >Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Guys , The subject which initiated this debate was " ....when one is travelling and is not able to carry his BW, what are the options available for continuing training................... " .... I donot see and 'for' or 'aganst' any fitness regime ( viz. BW , Yoga etc. etc. ) being called for........................... are we trying to catch a nonexistent black cat in a pitch dark room ? have a nice day Cheers Re: tibetan rites ok...but yoga rocks... ,All this hoopla started with the following post:"keep urself strong and fit if u practice Sun Salutation.it' s a combination>of 12 Yoga posture which gives tremendous strength(believe me)and>confidence with fitness at it's level best."Sorry, but as I indicated before, the only "tremendous strength" that a Sun Salute will yield is to do Sun Salutes. It is a very nice flexibility and limbering move indeed.I am happy to understand where I might have erred.As to Yoga, as I have said maybe ten times, I do it and I like it. It is simply not the "total fitness" tool as was represented by our new poster.Moreover, while we have always been open about discussing most things fitness related, this is not primarily a Yoga forum. If one wants to delve into the practice of yoga, there are tons of sites available.> >> > ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!> > > > > > On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 rajdeep mandal wrote :> > >actually u guys are misunderstanding my point.> > > i am not aginst Bullworker or weight training.remember my post > title was "if u can't carry ur bully while travelling then what are > the other means of exercise to keep ourselves fit"...wasn' t it?> > > and dear rrbelloff i have done intensive weight training in my > martial arts school days(and for ur kind information i am a black > belt in Ashihara Kai Kan which is the strongest full contact style of > Karate)...so forget about kicking my "A88" in weight room...and > please do respect other members and i shall be highly obliged to u if > u don't use such abusive languege in future,thank u.> > > only bullworker or only weight training will not be sufficient > to achieve maximum fitness level.to reach fitness level at it's > hieghest level u need to practice a combination of > cardio+bully+ yoga...yoga gives flexibility, cardio gives energy and > controls heart rate and bully strengthens our muscles...so it's no > point to be faithfull to a particular exercise regime...> > > what do u say folks?> > >> > >> > >----------- --------- --------- ----> > >Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.> >> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.> Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. Click here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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