new to group

[Guest guest]

Hi Shanequia

Welcome to the list. My youngest daughter, Skylar, will be 11 on Sunday. She

too is heading toward puberty. Last year she started being extremely moody and

emtional every month between the 4th and 10th. She has not started her period

yet but I know it is coming. She takes Oil of Evening Primrose which is a

natural remedy. She only takes one pill a day and that has seemed to help with

the moodiness and tears. Sky is also a big girl and is also wearing training

bras. She too wears pantyliners so I am hoping that will help when she finally

begins to menustrate. So far I have not had any behavior issues with her except

for the emotional times once a month. I found out about a book from another

parent on this site called Period. I have found it and ordered it and am hoping

that it will be a help to my daughter when the time comes. I am sure there will

be someone on the list who will have some advice for you. This is a great group

of people with lots of knowledge, information and resources. It is good to have

you with us.

Tracey

new to group

Hello all,

I am new.

My name is Patty. My husband and I have 2 children, a 14 year old son

() and an 11 year old little girl (). Our daughter has

Autism. We are heading into the " pre-teen " era and she is maturing. I

am wondering how other parents have handled this with their daughters?

is able to speak verbally to a point, but she is not able to

articulate everything. She uses a picture schedule to help with

routines and had been mainstreamed almost full time in a " regular "

classroom with a one on one assistant until late last year, when the

" hormones " kicked in and her behavior was so out of control we had to

look at medication for the first time and move her to a more restrictive

classroom environment. We also hired a behavioral consultant and that

has really done more good than the medications.

I am also curious, for the sake of school issues discussions, where most

of the members of this group are located? We are in Indiana.

Patty

[Guest guest]

Hi Patty

Welcome to the list. My name is Tracey and I have two daughters, Coral age 13

and Skylar age 11 (on Sunday). Skylar was diagnosed autistic at the age of 3.

We live in a small town in Ontario, Canada. Skylar is rapidly heading towards

puberty as well. Last year we started noticing that she was very emotional at

the same time every month. She would be very easily aggitated and very weepy.

The doctor suggest we try a natural remidy. She has been taking Oil of Evening

Primrose once a day and it has seemed to help with the emotional roller coaster.

Her sister started her period at the age of 10 so I have been waiting expecting

Sky to start any day. As I was just say in an earlier post, a parent on the

list told me about a book called Period. I have found it and ordered it and am

hoping it will help Skylar when the time comes This is a great group of

individuals. I am sure you will be glad you joined. This is a great group to

get information from, for support and a great place to vent when necessary. It

is good to have you with us.

Tracey

new to group

Hello all,

I am new.

My name is Patty. My husband and I have 2 children, a 14 year old son

() and an 11 year old little girl (). Our daughter has

Autism. We are heading into the " pre-teen " era and she is maturing. I

am wondering how other parents have handled this with their daughters?

is able to speak verbally to a point, but she is not able to

articulate everything. She uses a picture schedule to help with

routines and had been mainstreamed almost full time in a " regular "

classroom with a one on one assistant until late last year, when the

" hormones " kicked in and her behavior was so out of control we had to

look at medication for the first time and move her to a more restrictive

classroom environment. We also hired a behavioral consultant and that

has really done more good than the medications.

I am also curious, for the sake of school issues discussions, where most

of the members of this group are located? We are in Indiana.

Patty

[Guest guest]

Thanks Tracey,

I saw in your other email to Patty, that you have two daughters and your

younger one - Sky is autistic is the Older one " normal " ? Shea is my eldest

daughter and I have recently given birth to another girl. She is only

4mths. I waited 11yrs before I even attempted another pregnancy. Even

though I love Shea and she brings me great joy I was fearful of having

another autistic child. Am I right in noting that the first born girl is

usually autistic and the family usually stands the chance of having another

autistic child? is this correct and if so is there anything that I can read?

Shanequia

Re: new to group

Hi Shanequia

Welcome to the list. My youngest daughter, Skylar, will be 11 on Sunday.

She too is heading toward puberty. Last year she started being extremely

moody and emtional every month between the 4th and 10th. She has not

started her period yet but I know it is coming. She takes Oil of Evening

Primrose which is a natural remedy. She only takes one pill a day and that

has seemed to help with the moodiness and tears. Sky is also a big girl and

is also wearing training bras. She too wears pantyliners so I am hoping

that will help when she finally begins to menustrate. So far I have not had

any behavior issues with her except for the emotional times once a month. I

found out about a book from another parent on this site called Period. I

have found it and ordered it and am hoping that it will be a help to my

daughter when the time comes. I am sure there will be someone on the list

who will have some advice for you. This is a great group of people with

lots of knowledge, information and resources. It is good to have you with

us.

Tracey

new to group

Hello all,

I am new.

My name is Patty. My husband and I have 2 children, a 14 year old son

() and an 11 year old little girl (). Our daughter has

Autism. We are heading into the " pre-teen " era and she is maturing. I

am wondering how other parents have handled this with their daughters?

is able to speak verbally to a point, but she is not able to

articulate everything. She uses a picture schedule to help with

routines and had been mainstreamed almost full time in a " regular "

classroom with a one on one assistant until late last year, when the

" hormones " kicked in and her behavior was so out of control we had to

look at medication for the first time and move her to a more restrictive

classroom environment. We also hired a behavioral consultant and that

has really done more good than the medications.

I am also curious, for the sake of school issues discussions, where most

of the members of this group are located? We are in Indiana.

Patty

[Guest guest]

Shanequai

My oldest daughter is " nt " neurologically typical or normal. I don't think

there is anything out there stating that usually the first born is autistic. I

know my oldest isn't and I think there is quite a mix in our group here of

people. Some have their oldest daughters who are autistic and some have

youngest or third children who are autistic. Then there are some who have two

children that have autism. I don't know of anything in particular that you can

read but maybe someone else on the list might. I have read books by Temple

Grandin and Donna and found them to be helpful. Also we have a few

women on this list that are on the spectrum and they are a great source of

information for us as well as an inspiration for us. They can maybe answer some

of your questions.

Tracey

new to group

Hello all,

I am new.

My name is Patty. My husband and I have 2 children, a 14 year old son

() and an 11 year old little girl (). Our daughter has

Autism. We are heading into the " pre-teen " era and she is maturing. I

am wondering how other parents have handled this with their daughters?

is able to speak verbally to a point, but she is not able to

articulate everything. She uses a picture schedule to help with

routines and had been mainstreamed almost full time in a " regular "

classroom with a one on one assistant until late last year, when the

" hormones " kicked in and her behavior was so out of control we had to

look at medication for the first time and move her to a more restrictive

classroom environment. We also hired a behavioral consultant and that

has really done more good than the medications.

I am also curious, for the sake of school issues discussions, where most

of the members of this group are located? We are in Indiana.

Patty

[Guest guest]

As for autism , I to be second child born and to be with autism in my birth

family. My own children's all are on spectrumalthough only 3 are officially

dx. My oldest daughter is very , very high functioning Aspergers, My second

child is mild Aspergers. My third is most involved with autism in the sense

of issues of aggressions, shut down and behaviors. my youngest is Aspergers

but has much other issues that makes he to sound much more involved but in

true she is almost to the untrained eye not distinguishable socially among

peers of 2-3 years younger than she is. But with age peers she is appearing

immature, she is most challenged in areas of learning and retaining , but it

has to do with birth injury.

Sondra

[Guest guest]

Hi Patty,

welcome, I'm Rhonda B. Live in CO and have an NT 13yr old daughter and twin10

(11 next month) severe autistic girls, one started her cycle last month, still

10 yrs. old and we have been dreading this day, so we just take it one month at

a time and I expect her sister is not far behind.

Best of Luck,

Rhonda B.

patty wrote: Hello all,

I am new.

My name is Patty. My husband and I have 2 children, a 14 year old son

() and an 11 year old little girl (). Our daughter has

Autism. We are heading into the " pre-teen " era and she is maturing. I

am wondering how other parents have handled this with their daughters?

is able to speak verbally to a point, but she is not able to

articulate everything. She uses a picture schedule to help with

routines and had been mainstreamed almost full time in a " regular "

classroom with a one on one assistant until late last year, when the

" hormones " kicked in and her behavior was so out of control we had to

look at medication for the first time and move her to a more restrictive

classroom environment. We also hired a behavioral consultant and that

has really done more good than the medications.

I am also curious, for the sake of school issues discussions, where most

of the members of this group are located? We are in Indiana.

Patty

[Guest guest]

Hi Sandy, I am new here too. I am Carla, mom to 7 year old Kassie.

She was dx'd at 6 years old. Kassie, has made remarkable progress as

well. No meds. for her thus far, although sleep has been tough

lately. It has been reccommended she have an EEG and MRI done, I

dread it because she HATES to be messed w/ at all like that! I

wanted to ask you about the seizures, my son who is 4 now used to

have what appeared to be seizures when he would run a fever....I

took him to ER each time and told the ped., no one said too much

about it though. He now has severe speech and language communication

problems, they say he isn't on the spectrum though. Do you think it

could possibly be the result of fever seizures? Reading your post

made me think of it! It pops in my mind a lot, even though it has

been brushed off by docs.! Welcome!!!

Carla

> Hello

>

> I'm Sandy mom to Dennis 15yrs NT, Haley 32mths Dx ASD one month

ago.

> Haley had two seizures before she was one. Was on phenobarbital

for a

> year. Was progressing nicely until she hit 20mths. Her speech was

> dropping off quickly. She has had 2 EEGs, an MRI, several blood

test

> and urine test to rule out any metabolic issues. She is in speech

> therapy twice a week and was just approved for 1-on-1 therapy as

> well. She is making great improvements gaining back some words,

> getting new ones, and singing. She is a toy sorter, toe-walker,

arm

> flapping, lover. She will give the best hugs, on her conditions.

> Thank you for being here, I am still very new at all of this. I'm

> trying to understand Haley's world, it's difficult but fascinating

> all at once.

> Sandy Haley's Mom

[Guest guest]

Now we will all be confused too many penny, pennies from michigan, too many

abbeys, and ow two kassi's and a few skys here?

Sondra

[Guest guest]

Hi Sandy

Welcome to the group. My name is Tracey and my youngest daughter Skylar, age

11, was diagnosed autistic at age 3. She too was a toe-walker and toy sorter.

Sky is in a regular Grade 6 classroom with a full time EA. This is a wonderful

group. There are many helpful people here. It is a gret place to get support,

advice or just vent when you are having a bad day. Its good to have you with

us.

Tracey

New to Group

Hello

I'm Sandy mom to Dennis 15yrs NT, Haley 32mths Dx ASD one month ago.

Haley had two seizures before she was one. Was on phenobarbital for a

year. Was progressing nicely until she hit 20mths. Her speech was

dropping off quickly. She has had 2 EEGs, an MRI, several blood test

and urine test to rule out any metabolic issues. She is in speech

therapy twice a week and was just approved for 1-on-1 therapy as

well. She is making great improvements gaining back some words,

getting new ones, and singing. She is a toy sorter, toe-walker, arm

flapping, lover. She will give the best hugs, on her conditions.

Thank you for being here, I am still very new at all of this. I'm

trying to understand Haley's world, it's difficult but fascinating

all at once.

Sandy Haley's Mom

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[Guest guest]

I think there is a link with speech and seizures. At least in Abby's case

there is. Following a seizure she has wonderful bursts of speech development and

conversation skills. She tries new foods too. Very strange.

Pennie

Abby's Mom

[Guest guest]

WOW... I wonder if a seizure would reduce speech?

Sandy Haley's Mom

> I think there is a link with speech and seizures. At least in

Abby's case

> there is. Following a seizure she has wonderful bursts of speech

development and

> conversation skills. She tries new foods too. Very strange.

>

> Pennie

> Abby's Mom

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome, . Glad you found us.

It's sound like you are on the right track. Getting a good therapist,

who understand OCD well, and has treated it successfully, can help so

much. ERP, is the thing that can bring results. If it works well

enough, your son may never needs meds. With our son, he also has GAD,

along with his OCD, and the anxiety from both was a bit overwhelming.

He needed the meds to calm everything down enough that he could do

the therapy.

Our son, especially when he was younger, had a really difficult time

separating the OCD from himself. He told me once that he was afraid

to get rid of the OCD stuff, because he felt like it was part of him..

.. It was all he'd ever known. . He didn't know what it was to be

different from that. He wasn't comfortable getting rid of part of

what he considered himself. Our son is a bit of a brainiac, and part

of it was that he was afraid he wouldn't be smart anymore. The

therapist was able to get him to believe that that would not happen. .

.. .That the OCD was interfering and making it hard to concentrate, so

getting rid of the repeating thoughts would actually seem to make him

smarter.

Has your son said why he doesn't want to talk back to the OCD? Once

we got the mistaken presumptions out of the way, our son went to work

and got much better. It can be hard work and some kids don't like the

anxiety or the uncomfortable feeling associated with it as they first

confront things. It does get better with time though. The feelings

associated with fighting it, will diminish.

I can totally relate to the expense. I'm also a SAHM. And our

insurance didn't cover anything until we met a $1500 deductible. Then

they would cover half. We had to meet that for two years, plus

commute quite a distance. It became a financial burden for us too.

But, we somehow made it work and it was worth it. We only go once a

month now, which is what we can afford, but our son is also doing a

lot better and doing okay with that pace.

That is great that your son has a teacher who knows and understands

OCD. That should be a big help and relief for your son at school.

It can be difficult to separate the OCD from the child. . Therefore

separating what is prompted by OCD, and what it typical disobedience.

What helped us some was when our son made his hierarchy list.

Knowing what his OCD stuff was, helped to know the difference. They

often can get stuck on something and have difficulty moving on with

OCD. If you don't know that, it can be hard to figure out how to

treat it. . . whether to apply discipline or to coach them through it,

depending on what is going on.

I suppose we've all been through the denial/fear stage, where we just

wish it would go away. <sigh> We have been. But, I agree with you.

It's not about the label so much, as knowing what that label means,

and how to help your child learn to live with a disorder that can be

disabling if not treated correctly. Knowledge is power. It's the way

to take their life back from OCD. The more you learn and work, the

better it can get. We've been through the " down and out, not

functioning at all " stages, and the " living the best he can " stages.

Learning what to do and working at it, is what made the difference.

So glad you are here, . Feel free to share, ask questions, or

even vent on the bad days if you need to. You will find many who can

relate and understand.

BJ

>

> Hi everybody. I joined the group about a week ago and have been

> reading past posts as well as the information in the files.

> I have a son who is 8 that was diagnosed about 8 months ago. I

> started to notice some OCD type behaviors about 6 months before

> that. At 5 I took him into be evaluated for ADHD where we found out

> he doesn't have that, but does have anxiety, which really helped me

> understand what was going on with him then. His OCD seems pretty

> moderate at this time, though I always worry because it is impossible

> to know what all is going on inside that I can't see and he isn't

> telling me. Luckily he is pretty open with me and we talk easily

> about his " stuff " . He seems to be generally happy and has a pretty

> normal life I think.

>

> So far he has a little bit of all the behaviors. Some contamination

> issues, though he isn't a washer. He checks quite a bit, likes

> things even, and worries that he may have hurt the cat. He also

> repeats telling me things over and over to make sure I understand.

> None of this requires elaborate rituals at this point, thankfully.

> I've also notices some tics that seem to morph from one to the next.

>

> He has been doing CBT and some Exposure therapy with the therapist I

> found. After 6 months, and the summer off, I've decided to find a

> specialist who sees OCD a lot and specialized in kids. His previous

> therapist would only see us once a month and told me she hasn't dealt

> with OCD for a long time. Happily we can get into a new therapist

> this Friday. I hope I'm making the right decision. We haven't done

> meds and am hoping that therapy will suffice, though I'm not opposed

> if he needs it. He is taking fish oil, magnesium and I just started

> inositol. He seems to understand that he can talk back to OCD and

> make progress with his fears, he just doesn't always want to do it.

>

> I'm dying at the cost of it all. We are privately insured, which

> means they can cancel us if they want. Our deductible is $5400 and

> then it only covers 50% of mental health. I am a SAHM and my husband

> is working HARD to make ends meet anyway. Our other son has a

> medical issue that is also requiring a specialist. Lots of money

> going out, lots of stress.

>

> School started today. I'm optimistic about this year. His teacher

> seems to do well with intense kids that are dealing with issues. She

> told me her husband has OCD so she is comfortable with it. I hope

> she will be a good experience for him. Last year was a bit rougher

> because his teacher dealt with everything as a discipline issue and

> didn't seem to want to hear that he was dealing with anxiety issues

> that sometimes caused him to act out. But he dealt with her

> surprisingly well.

>

> I seem to have gone from feeling terrified and overwhelmed that he

> would never have a normal life, to accepting and optimistic.

> However, at times I am just tired and feel a bit of the " why us? " . I

> also get frustrated because I am having a hard time seperating

> OCD/anxiety from plain bad behavior and needs for discipline. I'm

> hoping our new therapist can help me with that. I just try to

> remember that this is my life's experience as well as his. We are

> here to teach each other something and learn something as well.

> Struggling won't make it any better.

>

> My husband is still in denial/fear mode. He just wants it to go away

> because he just can't handle the thought of it ever becoming major.

> Up to this point he hasn't been very involved, but I told him that he

> will be coming to the new therapist and that he needs to read up on

> OCD and understand it so we can work as a team. I just can't do this

> by myself. He also worries that I've labeled him and will become so

> engrossed in his disorder that I will treat him " different " and not

> just let him be a kid. I told him that I don't want to do that

> either but it's hard to know what will make the anxiety/OCD worse.

> That's why he needs to be involved so we can decide that together.

>

> Anyway, I just wanted to introduce myself and say that I'm really

> happy to have someplace to talk with other people who are going

> through the same thing. Sometimes I feel pretty alone this, so it's

> nice to know that I'm not.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi again, . I forgot to mention. . .Fish Oil, Magnesium, and

Inositol all can help. .For some, quite a bit. They are great things

to try. Just curious though. . how does your son's system handle

them? Our son had diarrhea with the Inositiol, and I know Magnesium

is a natural laxative. I was wondering how he handles taking both. I

take Mag for my heart and have to be careful with the dosage or I end

up running for the bathroom. lol

Do you notice any difference in your son's OCD from taking these

things? Some in here have had great results from alternative stuff,

instead of the typical SSRIs. I wish it had worked for our son, but

it didn't. Never hurts to try though.

BJ

>

> Hi everybody. I joined the group about a week ago and have been

> reading past posts as well as the information in the files.

> I have a son who is 8 that was diagnosed about 8 months ago. I

> started to notice some OCD type behaviors about 6 months before

> that. At 5 I took him into be evaluated for ADHD where we found out

> he doesn't have that, but does have anxiety, which really helped me

> understand what was going on with him then. His OCD seems pretty

> moderate at this time, though I always worry because it is impossible

> to know what all is going on inside that I can't see and he isn't

> telling me. Luckily he is pretty open with me and we talk easily

> about his " stuff " . He seems to be generally happy and has a pretty

> normal life I think.

>

> So far he has a little bit of all the behaviors. Some contamination

> issues, though he isn't a washer. He checks quite a bit, likes

> things even, and worries that he may have hurt the cat. He also

> repeats telling me things over and over to make sure I understand.

> None of this requires elaborate rituals at this point, thankfully.

> I've also notices some tics that seem to morph from one to the next.

>

> He has been doing CBT and some Exposure therapy with the therapist I

> found. After 6 months, and the summer off, I've decided to find a

> specialist who sees OCD a lot and specialized in kids. His previous

> therapist would only see us once a month and told me she hasn't dealt

> with OCD for a long time. Happily we can get into a new therapist

> this Friday. I hope I'm making the right decision. We haven't done

> meds and am hoping that therapy will suffice, though I'm not opposed

> if he needs it. He is taking fish oil, magnesium and I just started

> inositol. He seems to understand that he can talk back to OCD and

> make progress with his fears, he just doesn't always want to do it.

>

> I'm dying at the cost of it all. We are privately insured, which

> means they can cancel us if they want. Our deductible is $5400 and

> then it only covers 50% of mental health. I am a SAHM and my husband

> is working HARD to make ends meet anyway. Our other son has a

> medical issue that is also requiring a specialist. Lots of money

> going out, lots of stress.

>

> School started today. I'm optimistic about this year. His teacher

> seems to do well with intense kids that are dealing with issues. She

> told me her husband has OCD so she is comfortable with it. I hope

> she will be a good experience for him. Last year was a bit rougher

> because his teacher dealt with everything as a discipline issue and

> didn't seem to want to hear that he was dealing with anxiety issues

> that sometimes caused him to act out. But he dealt with her

> surprisingly well.

>

> I seem to have gone from feeling terrified and overwhelmed that he

> would never have a normal life, to accepting and optimistic.

> However, at times I am just tired and feel a bit of the " why us? " . I

> also get frustrated because I am having a hard time seperating

> OCD/anxiety from plain bad behavior and needs for discipline. I'm

> hoping our new therapist can help me with that. I just try to

> remember that this is my life's experience as well as his. We are

> here to teach each other something and learn something as well.

> Struggling won't make it any better.

>

> My husband is still in denial/fear mode. He just wants it to go away

> because he just can't handle the thought of it ever becoming major.

> Up to this point he hasn't been very involved, but I told him that he

> will be coming to the new therapist and that he needs to read up on

> OCD and understand it so we can work as a team. I just can't do this

> by myself. He also worries that I've labeled him and will become so

> engrossed in his disorder that I will treat him " different " and not

> just let him be a kid. I told him that I don't want to do that

> either but it's hard to know what will make the anxiety/OCD worse.

> That's why he needs to be involved so we can decide that together.

>

> Anyway, I just wanted to introduce myself and say that I'm really

> happy to have someplace to talk with other people who are going

> through the same thing. Sometimes I feel pretty alone this, so it's

> nice to know that I'm not.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome , I agree. it is great to have others who understand what

you are going thru. When your child has obvious symptoms of OCD and

you have to explain to people your child has OCD and you see the

looks on their faces you really need a place like this to talk! LOL!

I hear you about the husband issues. You are not alone there

either. My husband is in denial as well and he just lets me handle

everything. Lucky for us my son's ocd is somewhat mild and recently

under control under medication. (Read my update I posted today). Here

you will find support and undertanding like you wouldn't believe. I

often thank god for this group and I pray for all of the parents to

give them the strength (and me) to get through it and I pray for the

children of course as well. Welcome!

>

> Hi everybody. I joined the group about a week ago and have been

> reading past posts as well as the information in the files.

> I have a son who is 8 that was diagnosed about 8 months ago. I

> started to notice some OCD type behaviors about 6 months before

> that. At 5 I took him into be evaluated for ADHD where we found

out

> he doesn't have that, but does have anxiety, which really helped me

> understand what was going on with him then. His OCD seems pretty

> moderate at this time, though I always worry because it is

impossible

> to know what all is going on inside that I can't see and he isn't

> telling me. Luckily he is pretty open with me and we talk easily

> about his " stuff " . He seems to be generally happy and has a pretty

> normal life I think.

>

> So far he has a little bit of all the behaviors. Some

contamination

> issues, though he isn't a washer. He checks quite a bit, likes

> things even, and worries that he may have hurt the cat. He also

> repeats telling me things over and over to make sure I understand.

> None of this requires elaborate rituals at this point,

thankfully.

> I've also notices some tics that seem to morph from one to the next.

>

> He has been doing CBT and some Exposure therapy with the therapist

I

> found. After 6 months, and the summer off, I've decided to find a

> specialist who sees OCD a lot and specialized in kids. His

previous

> therapist would only see us once a month and told me she hasn't

dealt

> with OCD for a long time. Happily we can get into a new therapist

> this Friday. I hope I'm making the right decision. We haven't

done

> meds and am hoping that therapy will suffice, though I'm not

opposed

> if he needs it. He is taking fish oil, magnesium and I just

started

> inositol. He seems to understand that he can talk back to OCD and

> make progress with his fears, he just doesn't always want to do it.

>

> I'm dying at the cost of it all. We are privately insured, which

> means they can cancel us if they want. Our deductible is $5400 and

> then it only covers 50% of mental health. I am a SAHM and my

husband

> is working HARD to make ends meet anyway. Our other son has a

> medical issue that is also requiring a specialist. Lots of money

> going out, lots of stress.

>

> School started today. I'm optimistic about this year. His teacher

> seems to do well with intense kids that are dealing with issues.

She

> told me her husband has OCD so she is comfortable with it. I hope

> she will be a good experience for him. Last year was a bit rougher

> because his teacher dealt with everything as a discipline issue and

> didn't seem to want to hear that he was dealing with anxiety issues

> that sometimes caused him to act out. But he dealt with her

> surprisingly well.

>

> I seem to have gone from feeling terrified and overwhelmed that he

> would never have a normal life, to accepting and optimistic.

> However, at times I am just tired and feel a bit of the " why us? " .

I

> also get frustrated because I am having a hard time seperating

> OCD/anxiety from plain bad behavior and needs for discipline. I'm

> hoping our new therapist can help me with that. I just try to

> remember that this is my life's experience as well as his. We are

> here to teach each other something and learn something as well.

> Struggling won't make it any better.

>

> My husband is still in denial/fear mode. He just wants it to go

away

> because he just can't handle the thought of it ever becoming

major.

> Up to this point he hasn't been very involved, but I told him that

he

> will be coming to the new therapist and that he needs to read up on

> OCD and understand it so we can work as a team. I just can't do

this

> by myself. He also worries that I've labeled him and will become

so

> engrossed in his disorder that I will treat him " different " and not

> just let him be a kid. I told him that I don't want to do that

> either but it's hard to know what will make the anxiety/OCD worse.

> That's why he needs to be involved so we can decide that together.

>

> Anyway, I just wanted to introduce myself and say that I'm really

> happy to have someplace to talk with other people who are going

> through the same thing. Sometimes I feel pretty alone this, so

it's

> nice to know that I'm not.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi. Our son is 16 and doesn't have difficulty swallowing pills, even

big ones, thankfully. It seems like I remember some in here saying

their children take chewable fish oil pills, that even taste good. .

Amazing as that sounds. lol Seems they come in an orange flavor. If

you are interested in trying them, post a message asking the group and

I'm sure you will get replies. . .Probably with the brand names and

prices. )

When we tried Inositol, it was in a powder form that we mixed in some

juice. Our son said it tasted kind of sweet, so it wasn't bad tasting

either. Unfortunately, it didn't work for him. But, it does for

some. I know Castle's (moderator) son took it for years and did

really well on it. It's certainly worth a try, although it can be

spendy.

I can't say for sure, but I'll bet you can get magnesium in a chewable

form too. I didn't give that to our son when he was younger, so never

looked for it in that form. I can't imagine it not being in a

chewable form though. The magnesium I take it pretty big pills, so

that would probably be tough for her.

I shop at a (local) nutrition center that also sells supplements too,

along with organic foods, etc. I've seen some on here say they have

purchased online and saved money though.

Hope that helps, . ) If you try something and it helps, let

us know. Hoping for something to improve for you soon.

BJ

> >

> > Hi everybody. I joined the group about a week ago and have been

> > reading past posts as well as the information in the files.

> > I have a son who is 8 that was diagnosed about 8 months ago. I

> > started to notice some OCD type behaviors about 6 months before

> > that. At 5 I took him into be evaluated for ADHD where we found out

> > he doesn't have that, but does have anxiety, which really helped me

> > understand what was going on with him then. His OCD seems pretty

> > moderate at this time, though I always worry because it is impossible

> > to know what all is going on inside that I can't see and he isn't

> > telling me. Luckily he is pretty open with me and we talk easily

> > about his " stuff " . He seems to be generally happy and has a pretty

> > normal life I think.

> >

> > So far he has a little bit of all the behaviors. Some contamination

> > issues, though he isn't a washer. He checks quite a bit, likes

> > things even, and worries that he may have hurt the cat. He also

> > repeats telling me things over and over to make sure I understand.

> > None of this requires elaborate rituals at this point, thankfully.

> > I've also notices some tics that seem to morph from one to the next.

> >

> > He has been doing CBT and some Exposure therapy with the therapist I

> > found. After 6 months, and the summer off, I've decided to find a

> > specialist who sees OCD a lot and specialized in kids. His previous

> > therapist would only see us once a month and told me she hasn't dealt

> > with OCD for a long time. Happily we can get into a new therapist

> > this Friday. I hope I'm making the right decision. We haven't done

> > meds and am hoping that therapy will suffice, though I'm not opposed

> > if he needs it. He is taking fish oil, magnesium and I just started

> > inositol. He seems to understand that he can talk back to OCD and

> > make progress with his fears, he just doesn't always want to do it.

> >

> > I'm dying at the cost of it all. We are privately insured, which

> > means they can cancel us if they want. Our deductible is $5400 and

> > then it only covers 50% of mental health. I am a SAHM and my husband

> > is working HARD to make ends meet anyway. Our other son has a

> > medical issue that is also requiring a specialist. Lots of money

> > going out, lots of stress.

> >

> > School started today. I'm optimistic about this year. His teacher

> > seems to do well with intense kids that are dealing with issues. She

> > told me her husband has OCD so she is comfortable with it. I hope

> > she will be a good experience for him. Last year was a bit rougher

> > because his teacher dealt with everything as a discipline issue and

> > didn't seem to want to hear that he was dealing with anxiety issues

> > that sometimes caused him to act out. But he dealt with her

> > surprisingly well.

> >

> > I seem to have gone from feeling terrified and overwhelmed that he

> > would never have a normal life, to accepting and optimistic.

> > However, at times I am just tired and feel a bit of the " why us? " . I

> > also get frustrated because I am having a hard time seperating

> > OCD/anxiety from plain bad behavior and needs for discipline. I'm

> > hoping our new therapist can help me with that. I just try to

> > remember that this is my life's experience as well as his. We are

> > here to teach each other something and learn something as well.

> > Struggling won't make it any better.

> >

> > My husband is still in denial/fear mode. He just wants it to go away

> > because he just can't handle the thought of it ever becoming major.

> > Up to this point he hasn't been very involved, but I told him that he

> > will be coming to the new therapist and that he needs to read up on

> > OCD and understand it so we can work as a team. I just can't do this

> > by myself. He also worries that I've labeled him and will become so

> > engrossed in his disorder that I will treat him " different " and not

> > just let him be a kid. I told him that I don't want to do that

> > either but it's hard to know what will make the anxiety/OCD worse.

> > That's why he needs to be involved so we can decide that together.

> >

> > Anyway, I just wanted to introduce myself and say that I'm really

> > happy to have someplace to talk with other people who are going

> > through the same thing. Sometimes I feel pretty alone this, so it's

> > nice to know that I'm not.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > Hi everybody. I joined the group about a week ago and have been

> > > reading past posts as well as the information in the files.

> > > I have a son who is 8 that was diagnosed about 8 months ago. I

> > > started to notice some OCD type behaviors about 6 months before

> > > that. At 5 I took him into be evaluated for ADHD where we found

> out

> > > he doesn't have that, but does have anxiety, which really helped

> me

> > > understand what was going on with him then. His OCD seems pretty

> > > moderate at this time, though I always worry because it is

> impossible

> > > to know what all is going on inside that I can't see and he isn't

> > > telling me. Luckily he is pretty open with me and we talk easily

> > > about his " stuff " . He seems to be generally happy and has a

> pretty

> > > normal life I think.

> > >

> > > So far he has a little bit of all the behaviors. Some

> contamination

> > > issues, though he isn't a washer. He checks quite a bit, likes

> > > things even, and worries that he may have hurt the cat. He also

> > > repeats telling me things over and over to make sure I

> understand.

> > > None of this requires elaborate rituals at this point,

> thankfully.

> > > I've also notices some tics that seem to morph from one to the

> next.

> > >

> > > He has been doing CBT and some Exposure therapy with the

> therapist I

> > > found. After 6 months, and the summer off, I've decided to find

> a

> > > specialist who sees OCD a lot and specialized in kids. His

> previous

> > > therapist would only see us once a month and told me she hasn't

> dealt

> > > with OCD for a long time. Happily we can get into a new

> therapist

> > > this Friday. I hope I'm making the right decision. We haven't

> done

> > > meds and am hoping that therapy will suffice, though I'm not

> opposed

> > > if he needs it. He is taking fish oil, magnesium and I just

> started

> > > inositol. He seems to understand that he can talk back to OCD

> and

> > > make progress with his fears, he just doesn't always want to do

> it.

> > >

> > > I'm dying at the cost of it all. We are privately insured, which

> > > means they can cancel us if they want. Our deductible is $5400

> and

> > > then it only covers 50% of mental health. I am a SAHM and my

> husband

> > > is working HARD to make ends meet anyway. Our other son has a

> > > medical issue that is also requiring a specialist. Lots of money

> > > going out, lots of stress.

> > >

> > > School started today. I'm optimistic about this year. His

> teacher

> > > seems to do well with intense kids that are dealing with issues.

> She

> > > told me her husband has OCD so she is comfortable with it. I

> hope

> > > she will be a good experience for him. Last year was a bit

> rougher

> > > because his teacher dealt with everything as a discipline issue

> and

> > > didn't seem to want to hear that he was dealing with anxiety

> issues

> > > that sometimes caused him to act out. But he dealt with her

> > > surprisingly well.

> > >

> > > I seem to have gone from feeling terrified and overwhelmed that

> he

> > > would never have a normal life, to accepting and optimistic.

> > > However, at times I am just tired and feel a bit of the " why

> us? " . I

> > > also get frustrated because I am having a hard time seperating

> > > OCD/anxiety from plain bad behavior and needs for discipline.

> I'm

> > > hoping our new therapist can help me with that. I just try to

> > > remember that this is my life's experience as well as his. We

> are

> > > here to teach each other something and learn something as well.

> > > Struggling won't make it any better.

> > >

> > > My husband is still in denial/fear mode. He just wants it to go

> away

> > > because he just can't handle the thought of it ever becoming

> major.

> > > Up to this point he hasn't been very involved, but I told him

> that he

> > > will be coming to the new therapist and that he needs to read up

> on

> > > OCD and understand it so we can work as a team. I just can't do

> this

> > > by myself. He also worries that I've labeled him and will become

> so

> > > engrossed in his disorder that I will treat him " different " and

> not

> > > just let him be a kid. I told him that I don't want to do that

> > > either but it's hard to know what will make the anxiety/OCD

> worse.

> > > That's why he needs to be involved so we can decide that together.

> > >

> > > Anyway, I just wanted to introduce myself and say that I'm really

> > > happy to have someplace to talk with other people who are going

> > > through the same thing. Sometimes I feel pretty alone this, so

> it's

> > > nice to know that I'm not.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I totally know what you mean. Our son lacked motivation too when he

was a bit younger. He had a really bad relapse about a year and a

half ago. He hit bottom, not able to get off of the sofa. He spent

pretty much every day on the sofa, in the fetal position, clenched and

white faced . .Not eating,. . Not sleeping. . Barely communicating.

It was the worst he's ever been. It motivated him to do what he

needed, to improve. I hope it doesn't take that sort of extreme for

you son. It's not a pleasant thing to live through. I wonder how

much of it just seems to be him being older (now) and sort of getting

it better too. Then you throw in the typical kid stuff that ALL kids

deal with. . It can become complicated. Our poor kids, they sure have

more than the average kid to deal with.

BJ

> > >

> > > Hi everybody. I joined the group about a week ago and have been

> > > reading past posts as well as the information in the files.

> > > I have a son who is 8 that was diagnosed about 8 months ago. I

> > > started to notice some OCD type behaviors about 6 months before

> > > that. At 5 I took him into be evaluated for ADHD where we found

> out

> > > he doesn't have that, but does have anxiety, which really helped

> me

> > > understand what was going on with him then. His OCD seems pretty

> > > moderate at this time, though I always worry because it is

> impossible

> > > to know what all is going on inside that I can't see and he isn't

> > > telling me. Luckily he is pretty open with me and we talk easily

> > > about his " stuff " . He seems to be generally happy and has a

> pretty

> > > normal life I think.

> > >

> > > So far he has a little bit of all the behaviors. Some

> contamination

> > > issues, though he isn't a washer. He checks quite a bit, likes

> > > things even, and worries that he may have hurt the cat. He also

> > > repeats telling me things over and over to make sure I

> understand.

> > > None of this requires elaborate rituals at this point,

> thankfully.

> > > I've also notices some tics that seem to morph from one to the

> next.

> > >

> > > He has been doing CBT and some Exposure therapy with the

> therapist I

> > > found. After 6 months, and the summer off, I've decided to find

> a

> > > specialist who sees OCD a lot and specialized in kids. His

> previous

> > > therapist would only see us once a month and told me she hasn't

> dealt

> > > with OCD for a long time. Happily we can get into a new

> therapist

> > > this Friday. I hope I'm making the right decision. We haven't

> done

> > > meds and am hoping that therapy will suffice, though I'm not

> opposed

> > > if he needs it. He is taking fish oil, magnesium and I just

> started

> > > inositol. He seems to understand that he can talk back to OCD

> and

> > > make progress with his fears, he just doesn't always want to do

> it.

> > >

> > > I'm dying at the cost of it all. We are privately insured, which

> > > means they can cancel us if they want. Our deductible is $5400

> and

> > > then it only covers 50% of mental health. I am a SAHM and my

> husband

> > > is working HARD to make ends meet anyway. Our other son has a

> > > medical issue that is also requiring a specialist. Lots of money

> > > going out, lots of stress.

> > >

> > > School started today. I'm optimistic about this year. His

> teacher

> > > seems to do well with intense kids that are dealing with issues.

> She

> > > told me her husband has OCD so she is comfortable with it. I

> hope

> > > she will be a good experience for him. Last year was a bit

> rougher

> > > because his teacher dealt with everything as a discipline issue

> and

> > > didn't seem to want to hear that he was dealing with anxiety

> issues

> > > that sometimes caused him to act out. But he dealt with her

> > > surprisingly well.

> > >

> > > I seem to have gone from feeling terrified and overwhelmed that

> he

> > > would never have a normal life, to accepting and optimistic.

> > > However, at times I am just tired and feel a bit of the " why

> us? " . I

> > > also get frustrated because I am having a hard time seperating

> > > OCD/anxiety from plain bad behavior and needs for discipline.

> I'm

> > > hoping our new therapist can help me with that. I just try to

> > > remember that this is my life's experience as well as his. We

> are

> > > here to teach each other something and learn something as well.

> > > Struggling won't make it any better.

> > >

> > > My husband is still in denial/fear mode. He just wants it to go

> away

> > > because he just can't handle the thought of it ever becoming

> major.

> > > Up to this point he hasn't been very involved, but I told him

> that he

> > > will be coming to the new therapist and that he needs to read up

> on

> > > OCD and understand it so we can work as a team. I just can't do

> this

> > > by myself. He also worries that I've labeled him and will become

> so

> > > engrossed in his disorder that I will treat him " different " and

> not

> > > just let him be a kid. I told him that I don't want to do that

> > > either but it's hard to know what will make the anxiety/OCD

> worse.

> > > That's why he needs to be involved so we can decide that together.

> > >

> > > Anyway, I just wanted to introduce myself and say that I'm really

> > > happy to have someplace to talk with other people who are going

> > > through the same thing. Sometimes I feel pretty alone this, so

> it's

> > > nice to know that I'm not.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group! You are sure to find support and advice here.

Nine seemed so old when it's the age of your oldest child. My

daughter is 9 as well. I also have a 7, 5, and a 2 year old. I felt

terrible when was first diagnosed (in March of this year),

because I noticed some things along the way, but also 'brushed them

off'. But isn't it our job, in part, as parents to accept the quirks

of our children? As parents we are supposed to give them the benefit

of the doubt - not immediately assume that they may have a disorder.

I look at my 5 year old, and I realize that the things that and

I talk about and the things she is doing to fight her 'bully' in her

brain would be a real stretch for my 5 year old. I think 9 is a

really reasonable age to incorporate the therapies and to discuss the

issues in more plain and real terms.

So - you are getting your son help, reading up on OCD, and joining a

support group on-line. Sounds like a great mom to me.

[Guest guest]

What kind of rituals she  has? Washing, ordering?

Must try CBT/ERP with OCD expert who is qualified in your area.

Try everything without meds first. England banned all SSR's for children except

Prozac.

Prozac helps in 1 to 10 cases. But less side effects.

Try to optimize brain chemistry by proper nutrition and supplements.

www.orthomolecular.com          list of practitioners there

 

Link to good book written by Lesser. He is still practicing. Blood test

can be done to analyse biochemistry balance.

http://books.google.com/books?id=n6piIfwLdk8C & pg=PT135 & lpg=PT135 & dq=+less\

er+ocd & source=web & ots=FUzPEmbr9S & sig=BimUtUvFa1hPE_nVeAWdGATQV0s & hl=en & sa=X & oi=b\

ook_result & resnum=7 & ct=result#PPT158,M1

Subject: Re: new to group

To:

Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 7:35 AM

Hi, I am also new to the group. My daughter, 14, was just diagnosed yesterday,

so don't feel bad Sherri! When I think back, I think she's exhibited signs of

this as early as 4, but like you, thought it was just an interesting part of her

character. She always liked routine and was very organized; I thought that was a

good thing!

What led us to a diagnosis finally was the full-blown version came to roost on

her about 15 days ago, when school started. She became anxious about the sawdust

in her new shop class, and at a birthday party, someone talked about dying in

your sleep. Her mind fixated on worry about getting sick or things hurting her

(like germs) that would make her die.

It got so bad the school had us come get her one day, though we sent her back

the next day. We felt if we allowed her to stay home, it would just feed the

fear. Her medical doctor prescribed Valium!! Grrrr! After all, let's not figure

out what's wrong, just tranquilize the kid!

Well, after much research, I thought she might have OCD and took her to a

specialist. They confirmed my suspicions. So here I am, also looking for support

and advice, wondering where to start for treatment.

Debbie

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http://www.mind.org.uk/News+policy+and+campaigns/Press+archive/Efexor.htm

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Subject: Re: new to group

To:

Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 7:35 AM

Hi, I am also new to the group. My daughter, 14, was just diagnosed yesterday,

so don't feel bad Sherri! When I think back, I think she's exhibited signs of

this as early as 4, but like you, thought it was just an interesting part of her

character. She always liked routine and was very organized; I thought that was a

good thing!

What led us to a diagnosis finally was the full-blown version came to roost on

her about 15 days ago, when school started. She became anxious about the sawdust

in her new shop class, and at a birthday party, someone talked about dying in

your sleep. Her mind fixated on worry about getting sick or things hurting her

(like germs) that would make her die.

It got so bad the school had us come get her one day, though we sent her back

the next day. We felt if we allowed her to stay home, it would just feed the

fear. Her medical doctor prescribed Valium!! Grrrr! After all, let's not figure

out what's wrong, just tranquilize the kid!

Well, after much research, I thought she might have OCD and took her to a

specialist. They confirmed my suspicions. So here I am, also looking for support

and advice, wondering where to start for treatment.

Debbie

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reassurance.  I have just ordered 3 books recommended by the OCD

foundation. One is for us to read together.  I just feel for him and can only

imagine the destress he is going through at school--trying to deal with anxious

thoughts and hide any signs in order to appear fine and " tough " .  Our school has

installed automatice sanitizer dispensers in each classroom and his teacher has

commented on his trips to it during the day.  She is aware of his OCD and is

very supportive. I have ordered " Teaching the Tiger " and trying to find a copy

of " School Personnel: A Critical Link " to share with her. Both were recommended

by the OCD foundation. 

 

Thanks again for the response. I truly look forward to being involved in this

group.

Sherri

Subject: Re: new to group

To:

Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 10:11 AM

Welcome to the group! You are sure to find support and advice here.

Nine seemed so old when it's the age of your oldest child. My

daughter is 9 as well. I also have a 7, 5, and a 2 year old. I felt

terrible when was first diagnosed (in March of this year),

because I noticed some things along the way, but also 'brushed them

off'. But isn't it our job, in part, as parents to accept the quirks

of our children? As parents we are supposed to give them the benefit

of the doubt - not immediately assume that they may have a disorder.

I look at my 5 year old, and I realize that the things that and

I talk about and the things she is doing to fight her 'bully' in her

brain would be a real stretch for my 5 year old. I think 9 is a

really reasonable age to incorporate the therapies and to discuss the

issues in more plain and real terms.

So - you are getting your son help, reading up on OCD, and joining a

support group on-line. Sounds like a great mom to me.

[Guest guest]

Senya, our daughter's OCD seems to be manifesting itself in the form of

obsessive thoughts and fears, especially of death or dying in her sleep. This

is in itself causing a co-existing fear of germs, cleaning supplies, etc,

anything she worries might be toxic and " kill " her. She washes her hands,

though not what I'd call obsessively, just doesn't think they're clean. She

sits holding her hands in the air so they won't touch anything. She constantly

asks if things around her are " safe " , and constantly reassures herself they are;

but a few minutes later, the cycle begins again.

The therapist she saw yesterday diagnosed her and does the ERP and CBT, the

problem is we can't see her every week because she charges $140 and our

insurance won't pay any until we've met a $2000 deductible. There is no one

else close who knows this kind of therapy (she's an hour an a half away). So

we're going to see this lady every other week if we can swing it, and have our

daughter followed regularly with the Mental Health counselor once we get the

therapies going.

Debbie

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I would recommend to get in touch with McIngvale via OC foundation.

www.ocfoundation.org  (there is a clip there as well)

She is the national speaker for foundation.   was treated in Menniger

Clinic. Director of the unit there is very knowledgeable and nice person. You

may call him. He returns calls.

 

Here is the story of (washing, germs)  on ABC News:

Use search and use text " Inside the mind of OCD " .

 

 

http://abcnews.go.com/search?searchtext=inside%20ocd%20mind & type=

Program may be better and more effective than individual sessions.

Best wishes.

Subject: Re: new to group

To:

Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 9:01 AM

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi, my nine year old son was professionally diagnosed with

OCD-germs/washing 6 months ago.  He is on Paxil, which was like a

miracle drug. We finally got our little boy back.  I recognized

" symptoms " of the disoder at age 6, but brushed them off as just his

personality and unique characteristics.  However, I now see those were

early signs of the disorder. Since beginning 4th grade 3 weeks ago, we

are noticing what we think are ADD signs, but after some brief

internet research, I see these problems may be related to the OCD.  I

feel somewhat guilty for not being more proactive and being a " better

mom. "   I would love any support and advice.  Thanks and blessings to all.

>  

>  

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry about the blank reply. That is what happens when you start

something and get pulled away from it. . Only to come back and not

know where you left off. lol

Welcome. You should not feel guilty for something you didn't know.

) Our son struggled for a number of years and I had no idea what

was going on. . .But, then again, neither did doctors. So, the

question is, what do you do now that you know. The best thing is to

educate yourself as much as possible. Knowledge is power, with OCD.

There are wonderful books out there and can help immensely. Some of

our favorites are:

What to do when your Child has Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder by Aureen

Pinto Wagner Ph.D.

Freeing Your Child from Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder by Tamar E. Chansky

Helping Your Child With Ocd: A Workbook for Parents of Children With

Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder by Lee Fitzgibbons and Cherry Pedrick

Talking Back to OCD by March

The last two are workbooks that walk you through CBT and ERP, the only

therapy proven to work with OCD.

The best treatment is therapy with someone who knows and understand

how to treat OCD, using CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) and ERP

(exposure and response prevention). The CBT needs to be specific to

OCD. If the therapy is too hard, due to anxiety, then meds can be

helpful in bringing down the level of anxiety so they can do the work.

Our son has been using ERP, very successfully. It's amazing what can

happen when you seek the right help.

You are being proactive now. That's what counts.

So very glad you found us and are here.

BJ

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> Hi, my nine year old son was professionally diagnosed with

OCD-germs/washing 6 months ago.  He is on Paxil, which was like a

miracle drug. We finally got our little boy back.  I recognized

" symptoms " of the disoder at age 6, but brushed them off as just his

personality and unique characteristics.  However, I now see those were

early signs of the disorder. Since beginning 4th grade 3 weeks ago, we

are noticing what we think are ADD signs, but after some brief

internet research, I see these problems may be related to the OCD.  I

feel somewhat guilty for not being more proactive and being a " better

mom. "   I would love any support and advice.  Thanks and blessings to all.

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