Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 , I am no expert but seems that most likely had an hypoxic event, if it was a cat it would likely get to be totally normal, I bet the dog improves, the ? is how much. Time is the big thing and you might want to call Animal Poison control - I once had a case of hypoxia post a fire and they were very helpful with suggestions that I had not used before. Other problems that anesthesia could likely have made worse includes hydrocephalus , atlanto- axial diseases and maybe a caval shunt etc. So you might want to start with bloodwork etc. I hope the patient improves,Mona L. Gitter DVM If you give 110% you get back 1000%DrFASTTALK.comNeed a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Thank you for the reply. I never thought about the Animal Poison Line. Good idea! -DrFastTalk@... wrote: , I am no expert but seems that most likely had an hypoxic event, if it was a cat it would likely get to be totally normal, I bet the dog improves, the ? is how much. Time is the big thing and you might want to call Animal Poison control - I once had a case of hypoxia post a fire and they were very helpful with suggestions that I had not used before. Other problems that anesthesia could likely have made worse includes hydrocephalus , atlanto- axial diseases and maybe a caval shunt etc. So you might want to start with bloodwork etc. I hope the patient improves,Mona L. Gitter DVM If you give 110% you get back 1000%DrFASTTALK.com Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Mona is right on the mark with some of the other possibilities for this chihuahua. Please investigate the hydrocephalus, or atlanto-occipital instability/hyperextension which may have hapenned with intubation and positioning.Try gentle occiput -atlas flexion, very tiny, repetitive flexions. You may get a remarkable reset. Also, upper thoracics gone anterior or ventral can alter sympathetic tone completely and have caused the problem and ongoing signs of withdrawal in the thoracic limbs. Judith M. Shoemaker, DVMAlways Helpful Veterinary Services305 Nottingham RoadNottingham, PA 19362ph fax info@... www.judithshoemaker.com To: VetRehab From: DrFastTalk@...Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 08:39:47 -0400Subject: the hypoxic? chihuahua , I am no expert but seems that most likely had an hypoxic event, if it was a cat it would likely get to be totally normal, I bet the dog improves, the ? is how much. Time is the big thing and you might want to call Animal Poison control - I once had a case of hypoxia post a fire and they were very helpful with suggestions that I had not used before. Other problems that anesthesia could likely have made worse includes hydrocephalus , atlanto- axial diseases and maybe a caval shunt etc. So you might want to start with bloodwork etc. I hope the patient improves,Mona L. Gitter DVM If you give 110% you get back 1000%DrFASTTALK.com Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 would hyperbaric O2 help this case? ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 We have not treated a hypoxia case that has been this long since injury, but would be willing to try. You can oxygenate tissues with little to no vascular supply. Recent hypoxic events - dummy foals, carbon monoxide, crush injury - are well proven. On the human side, they have had some success treating non-specific problems such as autism with HBOT. Neurologists don't agree on whether or not these kids have areas of hypoxia in their brains. I don't feel any of the low-pressure chambers would help this dog. I agree with previous posts - are you sure the problems are from hypoxia? Mindy , DVM, CCRT ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Not totally sure it's all b/c of it's hypoxic event. Just what I was told by the referring vet. I'm just the tech/rehab. person on the other end trying to figure out what to do, if you know what I mean! I am trying to get the other vet to explore the other options as the root of the problem. Good news though, she is starting to stand on her own now! Thank you for the info. R.Chris/Mindy wrote: We have not treated a hypoxia case that has been this long since injury, but would be willing to try. You can oxygenate tissues with little to no vascular supply. Recent hypoxic events - dummy foals, carbon monoxide, crush injury - are well proven. On the human side, they have had some success treating non-specific problems such as autism with HBOT. Neurologists don't agree on whether or not these kids have areas of hypoxia in their brains. I don't feel any of the low-pressure chambers would help this dog. I agree with previous posts - are you sure the problems are from hypoxia? Mindy , DVM, CCRT__________________________________________________________Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 I'm not sure, but will run it by the other vet. Thank you! - R. Combs wrote: would hyperbaric O2 help this case?__________________________________________________________Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Hyperbaric oxygen therapy is useful in cases such as this and is also used in human medicine. Remember the coal miners a few years ago that were trapped. All died but one and he was in a coma with hypoxemia. They performed repeated dives on him. Call around your area and see if any specialists, emergency hospitals etc. have one. We have one at our rehab center in California and it is great for an assortment of problems. For infections and edema it is amazing. We have a large amount of snake bites in our area and with HBOT tx there is minimal to no swelling and minimal to no necrosis. That is how well it works. the hypoxic? chihuahua , I am no expert but seems that most likely had an hypoxic event, if it was a cat it would likely get to be totally normal, I bet the dog improves, the ? is how much. Time is the big thing and you might want to call Animal Poison control - I once had a case of hypoxia post a fire and they were very helpful with suggestions that I had not used before. Other problems that anesthesia could likely have made worse includes hydrocephalus , atlanto- axial diseases and maybe a caval shunt etc. So you might want to start with bloodwork etc. I hope the patient improves, Mona L. Gitter DVM If you give 110% you get back 1000% DrFASTTALK.com Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. Plan your next roadtrip with MapQuest.com: America's #1 Mapping Site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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