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[Guest guest]

The other thing is would Dr Kolb possibly know of a home nurse that could stay with you?

I am so concerned for you J

Please let us know how it goes, I wish I lived closer to you so I could help you!

----- Original Message -----

From: JHH7

Cc: drkolb@...

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 8:54 PM

Subject: (unknown)

Hi, I just spoke with Dr. Kolb. Thank you Dr. Kolb.

If I am to go to Atlanta for my explant, I will need help. I am in desperate need of assistance. Is there anyone that lives in the area that can assist me until my drains come out? Please let me know. Thank you everyone. J-

jhh72002@...

[Guest guest]

Hey J,

Thanks for these ideas. I never knew about the Viactiv, but after checking it out, it looks like an easy way to take calcium. Not the best, with all that sugar and chocolate! But definitely easier than taking pills, liquids and whatnot. I was diagnosed with osteopenia in my spine in May.

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: JHH7

e_Rene@...

Cc:

Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 9:18 PM

Subject: (unknown)

Hi e,

I have been a quiet member of the forum but I have to comment on the bone loss issue. I am only 34 and have osteo too.

I hear your concerns.

I have been told by many Dr's that you MUST take extra Vitamin D with the calcium for it to be absorbed correctly.

There are two things that may work well for you:

1. Fruit flavored chewable Calcium tablets that include the Vitamin D and necessary Minerals. These taste good and can be bought at any local store fairly inexpensive.

2. Viactiv Soft Chocolate Calcium Chews with Vitamin D

Hope this helps.

J-

[Guest guest]

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[Guest guest]

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[Guest guest]

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Jeannie Aich wrote:

Hi Steve,I, like you, used to believe that cleaning mold withbleach would solve the problem. I even tried primerand painting after the bleach cleaning process. Ihave been ill for over two years and have seen atleast ten physicians (including specialists) that ALLagree I am ill. Yet it was a mystery to everyoneincluding myself why my health was not improving andin fact continued to deteriorate. Well, after thebleach cleaning and painting, the mold just continuedto come back and even spread to other rooms within ourrental home. That is when I began my research. Wehad our home tested and the cause of illness becamevery clear. Only upon leaving our home and ourbelongings has my health began to improve. It hasbeen eight months and I am still not completely well. For you to even suggest that families are leavingtheir homes with nothing but the clothes on theirbacks to live in one room in a motel,(or sometimesworse) is LUDICROUS. Do you know what it's like towash dishes in a motel bathroom sink. Or to cook yourfamilies meals with a microwave and an electric grill.Do you have children? Try explaining that you are sosick you cannot attend their school functions orsports games that you had never missed before. Oranswer the question "Mommy why are you still sick? Areyou going to die? Mommy I'm worried you're going todie and I don't want you to." Can you imagine tellingyour child that every one of their favorite toys,books and clothes have to be thrown away? My childrenhad items that were bought for them by their greatgrandparents that are now deceased. There is NO AMOUNTOF MONEY WORTH ALL OF THIS! I would be ecstaticallyhappy to give any amount of money to have my lifeback. Everything I have worked hard for in the last20 years has been ripped away from me. All in a twoyear living hell! Maybe you should not judge othersuntil you have walked a mile in their shoes. If youare interested in researching MOLD illness andprinting an article with educated information, I wouldbe more than happy to enlighten you.Jeannie__________________________________________________

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Hi there ine,

I sure do hate that you are having a bad day and to top it all you are being stressed by the knowledge that your docs are not allowing you to persue something that you feel in your heart is your right. Well here is good news for you....you can find someone to prescribe it for you no doubt. You do not need a neuro....just a doctor to prescribe. Please feel better in the knowledge that you can take control of your own life. We all have the right to do whatever we feel it best and believe me...I think this low dose naltrexone is the way to go. Please persue it. Don't allow your doctor to dictatge how your life will progress. Joyce.

>From: "ine Kernovich"

>"wkendz 32"

>Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] (unknown) >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 18:54:57 -0700 > >Hi there >I'm new at this so bear with me, and my typing is the pits. >I'm in Canada and my doc says NO >He took a week to check it out,I feel that it's my body and I should be able to at least try it. I've been onn everything else, like Copaxone Rebif Avonex and was in hospital everytime getting steroid treatments. >I sure hope ldn works for you cause th is is a horrible disease I hate the way I am now >Having a bad day sorry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: wkendz 32 > low dose naltrexone > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 3:01 PM > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] (unknown) > > > Was it someone in this group that was asking about how to go about getting LDN in the Uk? It's hard for me to keep track of who is in each group but Lawrence, who is the moderator of the other group had this to say about that. Not sure if he is a member of this group so I will copy and paste what he had to say...very interesting. > > > The doctor who prescribes and supplies me with LDN in the UK has written to me to say that he is receiving requests to prescribe LDN from all over the UK. He is so busy that he is working 10 hours a day just filling the prescriptions and supplying the various doses of LDN. Now, it is a little different here because there is still a very very few doctors who know about or are happy to prescribe LDN in fact Dr Lawrence the doctor who supplies me is the only one I know in the UK. Dr Lawrence has asked me to speak with any members of Spotlight_Med who live in the UK or Europe to ask there doctors and neurologists if they are prepared to prescribe the LDN and Dr Lawrence will talk with them and advise on how and where to get the LDN. If any of you in the UK think you might be able to help let me know. Obviously one of the major problems here in the UK is that LDN is only available as a private medicine and is not available under the National Health which means that you would have to pay for it which you would not have to do under the National Health. > I suppose this would also happen in the USA but I am not sure what the Prescribing and supply rate is like in the states. > > > > I personally pay for it out of my pocket because it is worth way more to me then I pay....*s*. Joyce. > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >

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Hi there ine,

Sorry you were having a bad day. Please don't stop in your quest to try the LDN. Is there any reason that you cannot see another doctor? I am not familiar with the Canadian health situation. Maybe you could try calling another doc on the phone. There are many Canadians getting the LDN. I'm sure someone could give you advise. You are very right in your feeling that it is your life and you have every right to do what you think if right for you. Please persue it further. Let us know if we can help..k? Joyce.

>From: "ine Kernovich"

>"wkendz 32"

>Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] (unknown) >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 18:54:57 -0700 > >Hi there >I'm new at this so bear with me, and my typing is the pits. >I'm in Canada and my doc says NO >He took a week to check it out,I feel that it's my body and I should be able to at least try it. I've been onn everything else, like Copaxone Rebif Avonex and was in hospital everytime getting steroid treatments. >I sure hope ldn works for you cause th is is a horrible disease I hate the way I am now >Having a bad day sorry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: wkendz 32 > low dose naltrexone > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 3:01 PM > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] (unknown) > > > Was it someone in this group that was asking about how to go about getting LDN in the Uk? It's hard for me to keep track of who is in each group but Lawrence, who is the moderator of the other group had this to say about that. Not sure if he is a member of this group so I will copy and paste what he had to say...very interesting. > > > The doctor who prescribes and supplies me with LDN in the UK has written to me to say that he is receiving requests to prescribe LDN from all over the UK. He is so busy that he is working 10 hours a day just filling the prescriptions and supplying the various doses of LDN. Now, it is a little different here because there is still a very very few doctors who know about or are happy to prescribe LDN in fact Dr Lawrence the doctor who supplies me is the only one I know in the UK. Dr Lawrence has asked me to speak with any members of Spotlight_Med who live in the UK or Europe to ask there doctors and neurologists if they are prepared to prescribe the LDN and Dr Lawrence will talk with them and advise on how and where to get the LDN. If any of you in the UK think you might be able to help let me know. Obviously one of the major problems here in the UK is that LDN is only available as a private medicine and is not available under the National Health which means that you would have to pay for it which you would not have to do under the National Health. > I suppose this would also happen in the USA but I am not sure what the Prescribing and supply rate is like in the states. > > > > I personally pay for it out of my pocket because it is worth way more to me then I pay....*s*. Joyce. > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >

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Hi Joan,

I am not at all surprised that you doc said no....they don't know enough about it, it seems. I think that you should take your time and listen to what others are saying about the great success they have gotten from it and persue it further. Find a more forward thinking doc who can prescribe it for you.

I have heard that you should not take the LDN with Avonex. I know that many of you are afraid to get off of one of the ABC's you are on. I can only say that in time you might come to realize that would be your best move. I've never gone that route and hopefully will never have to because I have confidence that this LDN will do what it is supposed to do for me for the rest of my life. I've been on it for just under a year now and so far so good....*fingers crossed* and everything else for that matter...lol.

I heard that Copaxone is the only one of the ABC's that can be taken with LDN. None are needed with it but some people are afraid to give up their crutch so to speak. Joyce.

>From: Palace8@... >wkendz32@... >Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] (unknown) >Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 16:27:05 EDT > >ine, >have you tried this LDN ? i asked my doctor and he said no. Do you know if it >can be used along with avonex ? > Joan > Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online

[Guest guest]

Well I did have an MRI taken about a year ago and spent a lot of time having my films shuffled around trying to have then compared. The guy screwed up and compared my last mri to some I took years ago. I got so fed up with the whole thing especially since I spent so much to have them done..had a $1,000 deductable. I gave up and probably won't have any done for a long time now. Maybe in the future if I feel like it but the funny thing is the neuro that I went to, to arrange the MRI's said he doesn't put much stock in them. Basically goes by the symptoms....Joyce.

>From: Walesong1@... >wkendz32@... >Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] (unknown) >Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 17:32:08 EDT > >Joyce, > >Have you had MRIs lately to see if silent MS in not present. It does exist >and continues on even when you show no sighns. I would like to know if there is >improvement there (in the brain) over time. Do you have any info on that? > >Kim > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*.

[Guest guest]

My MRI story is when I went to retrieve them to show a chiropracter, they

gave me someone else's slides (can you say " lawsuit " ?) The chiro called me

and said " this is of the shoulder/rotator cup, they gave you the wrong

ones " . So I finally got the right ones to him, but can you imagine the

level of incompetence that went into handing someone the wrong MRI scans?

And we're trusting our health to these folks? Sorry, not here.

And congress just passed into law a cap on medical malpractice. Explain

that to the woman who had her sample mixed up with someone else's which

resulted in a double masectomy for her (unneeded).

Ultimately, we should seek the advice of professionals, but be responsible

for our own health (i.e. not rely on anyone else to tell us how to get

healthy)... imho

Phil

On Sat, 31 May 2003, wkendz 32 wrote:

>

> Well I did have an MRI taken about a year ago and spent a lot of time

> having my films shuffled around trying to have then compared. The guy

> screwed up and compared my last mri to some I took years ago. I got so

> fed up with the whole thing especially since I spent so much to have them

> done..had a $1,000 deductable. I gave up and probably won't have any done

> for a long time now. Maybe in the future if I feel like it but the funny

> thing is the neuro that I went to, to arrange the MRI's said he doesn't

> put much stock in them. Basically goes by the symptoms....Joyce.

>

> >From: Walesong1@...

> >wkendz32@...

> >Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] (unknown)

> >Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 17:32:08 EDT

> >

> >Joyce,

> >

> >Have you had MRIs lately to see if silent MS in not present. It does

> exist

> >and continues on even when you show no sighns. I would like to know if

> there is

> >improvement there (in the brain) over time. Do you have any info on

> that?

> >

> >Kim

> >

>

>

________________________________________________________________________________

> Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Thelma--

The reversals you describe may be symptoms of what the school system

refers to as " dyslexia " . (I know about this subject all too well

because I homeschool my son who is " dyslexic " .) Strangely enough,

although I didn't have those symptoms (reversals) growing up, they have

developed in recent years. My hunch is that these symptoms are caused

by mercury or another metal (acting in the brain). I had a mouthful of

mercury ( " silver " ) fillings (until recently).

I believe there may be a connection between MS and heavy metal

poisioning of some kind, probably mercury.

S.

Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:28:36 -0400 (EDT)

From: fthinman@...

Subject: (unknown)

I've taken LDN since May of this year.

I've always done every thing back wards from other people,,,,,, I write

right-handed but reverse every thing I do as if I were left handed and

still am using my right hand. I say, turn right,, and it's left.

I first noticed the cold hard felling of the floor on my feet and when

I rubbed my thigh i could actually feel it . My leg was " mine " , and

wasn't someone else.

I'm still working on the strength. All good things come in time.

I've seen <Br> used,,,,What does it mean? Thanks,,,,,,,,,, Thelma

[Guest guest]

--Yes, there is a connection between mercury and MS--plenty of

info on the internet. MS'ers tend to test high. I had my amalgam

fillings replaced and then was tested--bingo! High in mercury. I've

been doing an oral detox for six months with 8 weeks of epsom salts

baths, and will probably do a few more months of the oral. Even if

symptoms don't improve, it can't hurt to get rid of toxicity.--Martha

> Hi Thelma--

>

> The reversals you describe may be symptoms of what the school system

> refers to as " dyslexia " . (I know about this subject all too well

> because I homeschool my son who is " dyslexic " .) Strangely enough,

> although I didn't have those symptoms (reversals) growing up, they have

> developed in recent years. My hunch is that these symptoms are caused

> by mercury or another metal (acting in the brain). I had a mouthful of

> mercury ( " silver " ) fillings (until recently).

>

> I believe there may be a connection between MS and heavy metal

> poisioning of some kind, probably mercury.

>

> S.

>

> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:28:36 -0400 (EDT)

> From: fthinman@w...

> Subject: (unknown)

>

>

> I've taken LDN since May of this year.

> I've always done every thing back wards from other people,,,,,, I write

>

> right-handed but reverse every thing I do as if I were left handed and

> still am using my right hand. I say, turn right,, and it's left.

> I first noticed the cold hard felling of the floor on my feet and when

> I rubbed my thigh i could actually feel it . My leg was " mine " , and

> wasn't someone else.

> I'm still working on the strength. All good things come in time.

> I've seen <Br> used,,,,What does it mean? Thanks,,,,,,,,,, Thelma

[Guest guest]

Martha-

Can I ask what kind of mercury test did you do. I had a blood

test done and it came up negative. I also had a hair analysis a couple

of years back and that was OK too. So I never did a detox although

I do have mercury fillings.

mertburton wrote:

--Yes, there is a connection between

mercury and MS--plenty of

info on the internet. MS'ers tend to test high. I had my amalgam

fillings replaced and then was tested--bingo! High in mercury.

I've

been doing an oral detox for six months with 8 weeks of epsom salts

baths, and will probably do a few more months of the oral. Even

if

symptoms don't improve, it can't hurt to get rid of toxicity.--Martha

--- In low dose naltrexone , <ebaker@n...>

wrote:

> Hi Thelma--

>

> The reversals you describe may be symptoms of what the school

system

> refers to as "dyslexia". (I know about this subject all

too well

> because I homeschool my son who is "dyslexic".) Strangely

enough,

> although I didn't have those symptoms (reversals) growing up,

they have

> developed in recent years. My hunch is that these symptoms

are caused

> by mercury or another metal (acting in the brain). I had

a mouthful of

> mercury ("silver") fillings (until recently).

>

> I believe there may be a connection between MS and heavy metal

> poisioning of some kind, probably mercury.

>

> S.

>

> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:28:36 -0400 (EDT)

> From: fthinman@w...

> Subject: (unknown)

>

>

> I've taken LDN since May of this year.

> I've always done every thing back wards from other people,,,,,,

I write

>

> right-handed but reverse every thing I do as if I were left handed

and

> still am using my right hand. I say,

turn right,, and it's left.

> I first noticed the cold hard felling of the floor on my

feet and when

> I rubbed my thigh i could actually feel it . My leg was "mine"

, and

> wasn't someone else.

> I'm still working on the strength. All

good things come in time.

> I've seen <Br> used,,,,What does it mean? Thanks,,,,,,,,,,

Thelma

[Guest guest]

(Sent to only yesterday, then I realized I should have posted to

all.)

--I did a DMPS chelation test--$300. The chelator is injected,

the metals bind to the chelator and then are excreted in your urine. A

six-hour urine collection that gets sent for analysis. It tests for

all heavy and essential metals (like what you're getting in your

diet). There is no " negative " or " positive " --it gives levels. Reputed

to be the most accurate test, plenty of info on the 'net.

The doctor didn't want to do the test until the metal was out of my

mouth because results would be skewed--allegedly, amalgams continually

off-gas.

I hope this helps!

Martha

> > > Hi Thelma--

> > >

> > > The reversals you describe may be symptoms of what the school system

> >

> > > refers to as " dyslexia " . (I know about this subject all too well

> > > because I homeschool my son who is " dyslexic " .) Strangely enough,

> > > although I didn't have those symptoms (reversals) growing up, they

> > have

> > > developed in recent years. My hunch is that these symptoms are

> > caused

> > > by mercury or another metal (acting in the brain). I had a mouthful

> > of

> > > mercury ( " silver " ) fillings (until recently).

> > >

> > > I believe there may be a connection between MS and heavy metal

> > > poisioning of some kind, probably mercury.

> > >

> > > S.

> > >

> > > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:28:36 -0400 (EDT)

> > > From: fthinman@w...

> > > Subject: (unknown)

> > >

> > >

> > > I've taken LDN since May of this year.

> > > I've always done every thing back wards from other people,,,,,, I

> > write

> > >

> > > right-handed but reverse every thing I do as if I were left handed

> > and

> > > still am using my right hand. I say, turn right,, and it's left.

> >

> > > I first noticed the cold hard felling of the floor on my feet and

> > when

> > > I rubbed my thigh i could actually feel it . My leg was " mine " , and

> >

> > > wasn't someone else.

> > > I'm still working on the strength. All good things come in time.

> >

> > > I've seen <Br> used,,,,What does it mean? Thanks,,,,,,,,,, Thelma

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

The most important test is Metal push through Urine. Then depending on

the reading of that your doctor may then ask for another Urine test for

another group of metals, or blood test for some that may not show in

Urine.

I hope that helps

Mira

Hair tests are not very accurate either. Though most commonly used.

On Saturday, Aug 9, 2003, at 14:26 US/Central, Braun Doherty

wrote:

> Martha-

>

> Can I ask what kind of mercury test did you do.  I had a blood test

> done and it came up negative.  I also had a hair analysis a couple of

> years back and that was OK too.  So I never did a detox although I do

> have mercury fillings.

>

>

>  

>

> mertburton wrote:

>

>  --Yes, there is a connection between mercury and MS--plenty of

> info on the internet. MS'ers tend to test high. I had my amalgam

> fillings replaced and then was tested--bingo! High in mercury. I've

> been doing an oral detox for six months with 8 weeks of epsom salts

> baths, and will probably do a few more months of the oral. Even if

> symptoms don't improve, it can't hurt to get rid of toxicity.--Martha

>

>

> > Hi Thelma--

> >

> > The reversals you describe may be symptoms of what the school system

> > refers to as " dyslexia " .  (I know about this subject all too well

> > because I homeschool my son who is " dyslexic " .)  Strangely enough,

> > although I didn't have those symptoms (reversals) growing up, they

> have

> > developed in recent years.  My hunch is that these symptoms are

> caused

> > by mercury or another metal (acting in the brain).  I had a mouthful

> of

> > mercury ( " silver " ) fillings (until recently).

> >

> > I believe there may be a connection between MS and heavy metal

> > poisioning of some kind, probably mercury.

> >

> > S.

> >

> > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:28:36 -0400 (EDT)

> >    From: fthinman@w...

> > Subject: (unknown)

> >

> >

> >    I've taken LDN since May of this year.

> > I've always  done every thing back wards from other people,,,,,, I

> write

> >

> > right-handed but reverse every thing I do as if I were left handed

> and

> > still am using my right hand.     I say, turn right,, and it's left.

> >  I first noticed the cold hard felling of the floor on my feet and

> when

> > I rubbed my thigh i could actually feel it . My leg was " mine " , and

> > wasn't someone else.

> > I'm still working on the strength.     All good things come in time.

> > I've seen <Br> used,,,,What does it mean?   Thanks,,,,,,,,,, Thelma

>  

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Another important thing I forgot to mention about Mercury or any other

metal. Sometimes one of the ways to remove the metals and fastest is

also Sauna / Heat/ Infrared . That then tells you why you are sicker

in the summer than you are in the winter. Perspiring makes the

metals move out of our tissues and move around freely in our bodies

making our symptoms worse (if we have metals).

Mira

On Saturday, Aug 9, 2003, at 13:44 US/Central, mertburton wrote:

> --Yes, there is a connection between mercury and MS--plenty of

> info on the internet. MS'ers tend to test high. I had my amalgam

> fillings replaced and then was tested--bingo! High in mercury. I've

> been doing an oral detox for six months with 8 weeks of epsom salts

> baths, and will probably do a few more months of the oral. Even if

> symptoms don't improve, it can't hurt to get rid of toxicity.--Martha

>

>

>> Hi Thelma--

>>

>> The reversals you describe may be symptoms of what the school system

>> refers to as " dyslexia " . (I know about this subject all too well

>> because I homeschool my son who is " dyslexic " .) Strangely enough,

>> although I didn't have those symptoms (reversals) growing up, they

>> have

>> developed in recent years. My hunch is that these symptoms are caused

>> by mercury or another metal (acting in the brain). I had a mouthful

>> of

>> mercury ( " silver " ) fillings (until recently).

>>

>> I believe there may be a connection between MS and heavy metal

>> poisioning of some kind, probably mercury.

>>

>> S.

>>

>> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:28:36 -0400 (EDT)

>> From: fthinman@w...

>> Subject: (unknown)

>>

>>

>> I've taken LDN since May of this year.

>> I've always done every thing back wards from other people,,,,,, I

>> write

>>

>> right-handed but reverse every thing I do as if I were left handed and

>> still am using my right hand. I say, turn right,, and it's left.

>> I first noticed the cold hard felling of the floor on my feet and

>> when

>> I rubbed my thigh i could actually feel it . My leg was " mine " , and

>> wasn't someone else.

>> I'm still working on the strength. All good things come in time.

>> I've seen <Br> used,,,,What does it mean? Thanks,,,,,,,,,, Thelma

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Martha

Where did you get this test done. Who is your doctor I know most of

them. Researched it to death 12 yrs ago. I have never met anyone who

has been through this as I have. You seem to know it well. I have been

in this for 10-12yrs. (not because my doctor is bad but my case was

from exposure to nuclear factory).

Its great to meet you!

Mira

On Sunday, Aug 10, 2003, at 06:29 US/Central, mertburton wrote:

> (Sent to only yesterday, then I realized I should have posted to

> all.)

>

> --I did a DMPS chelation test--$300. The chelator is injected,

> the metals bind to the chelator and then are excreted in your urine. A

> six-hour urine collection that gets sent for analysis. It tests for

> all heavy and essential metals (like what you're getting in your

> diet). There is no " negative " or " positive " --it gives levels. Reputed

> to be the most accurate test, plenty of info on the 'net.

>

> The doctor didn't want to do the test until the metal was out of my

> mouth because results would be skewed--allegedly, amalgams continually

> off-gas.

>

> I hope this helps!

>

> Martha

>

>

>

>

>>>> Hi Thelma--

>>>>

>>>> The reversals you describe may be symptoms of what the school system

>>>

>>>> refers to as " dyslexia " . (I know about this subject all too well

>>>> because I homeschool my son who is " dyslexic " .) Strangely enough,

>>>> although I didn't have those symptoms (reversals) growing up, they

>>> have

>>>> developed in recent years. My hunch is that these symptoms are

>>> caused

>>>> by mercury or another metal (acting in the brain). I had a mouthful

>>> of

>>>> mercury ( " silver " ) fillings (until recently).

>>>>

>>>> I believe there may be a connection between MS and heavy metal

>>>> poisioning of some kind, probably mercury.

>>>>

>>>> S.

>>>>

>>>> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:28:36 -0400 (EDT)

>>>> From: fthinman@w...

>>>> Subject: (unknown)

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> I've taken LDN since May of this year.

>>>> I've always done every thing back wards from other people,,,,,, I

>>> write

>>>>

>>>> right-handed but reverse every thing I do as if I were left handed

>>> and

>>>> still am using my right hand. I say, turn right,, and it's left.

>>>

>>>> I first noticed the cold hard felling of the floor on my feet and

>>> when

>>>> I rubbed my thigh i could actually feel it . My leg was " mine " , and

>>>

>>>> wasn't someone else.

>>>> I'm still working on the strength. All good things come in time.

>>>

>>>> I've seen <Br> used,,,,What does it mean? Thanks,,,,,,,,,, Thelma

>>>

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

Mira, the DMPS chelator was injected at Foxhollow Wellness Clinic;

Crestwood, KY. I then collected urine for six hours and sent it to a

lab for analysis. A very comprehensive test. After learning the

results, I've been doing Redoxal (methionine) to detox the blood and

alternating months of brown seaweed and chlorella to detox the gut.

Brown seaweed is what they gave the victims of Chernobyl. There are

also herbal detoxes. As I said, I also added eight weeks of epsom

salts baths, six days on, one day off. I eat a lot of seaweed because

of the high mineral content and also as a detoxer. A healthy, clean

(organic) diet and exercise are helping me be well while I do LDN and

more research--the " cure " is up for grabs. I think MS is caused by

environmental toxins or bacteria/viruses/fungi, or a combo, so I'm

trying to cover all the bases. Great to meet you too!--Martha

> Martha

> Where did you get this test done. Who is your doctor I know most of

> them. Researched it to death 12 yrs ago. I have never met anyone who

> has been through this as I have. You seem to know it well. I have

been

> in this for 10-12yrs. (not because my doctor is bad but my case was

> from exposure to nuclear factory).

> Its great to meet you!

> Mira

[Guest guest]

Hi Martha

It is so nice to have someone in the same boat, (though not saying one

is happy your unwell). Honestly I am the only one for years with MS

and you are the first one I meet on the net doing Mercury push and

other metals on the web.

I used to take all you take now, (and many more) but can't now. I am

not allowed to push anymore. I contacted Chernoble research many years

ago.

My doctors have been amazing kept me alive. And I have had many and

now am being supervised by their professor. My case is more

complicated now and can't push any metals anymore. Thats a long story

I can tell you if you like.

But mainly done all you do 16 yrs ago (when it was a no no) and till

August last year. I had gotten better but used to keep going home

where the poision was finally found, (my house on the dumping sea),

and I moved here last August where I used to come for treatments 4

times a year.

Great meeting you!!!

Mira

On Sunday, Aug 10, 2003, at 10:47 US/Central, mertburton wrote:

> Mira, the DMPS chelator was injected at Foxhollow Wellness Clinic;

> Crestwood, KY. I then collected urine for six hours and sent it to a

> lab for analysis. A very comprehensive test. After learning the

> results, I've been doing Redoxal (methionine) to detox the blood and

> alternating months of brown seaweed and chlorella to detox the gut.

> Brown seaweed is what they gave the victims of Chernobyl. There are

> also herbal detoxes. As I said, I also added eight weeks of epsom

> salts baths, six days on, one day off. I eat a lot of seaweed because

> of the high mineral content and also as a detoxer. A healthy, clean

> (organic) diet and exercise are helping me be well while I do LDN and

> more research--the " cure " is up for grabs. I think MS is caused by

> environmental toxins or bacteria/viruses/fungi, or a combo, so I'm

> trying to cover all the bases. Great to meet you too!--Martha

>

>

>

>> Martha

>> Where did you get this test done. Who is your doctor I know most of

>> them. Researched it to death 12 yrs ago. I have never met anyone who

>> has been through this as I have. You seem to know it well. I have

> been

>> in this for 10-12yrs. (not because my doctor is bad but my case was

>> from exposure to nuclear factory).

>> Its great to meet you!

>> Mira

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

According to Dr. Bihari it should be taken between 9:00 and I think 2:00 am.

I don't think it even works if you take it at any other time of day. Not

quite sure why any doctor would tell you to do that but hey....we are all

just experimenting here. I would not advise taking it any other time of day.

Why risk it. Maybe someone could ask Dr. Bihari more specifically why this

is the case on their next visit? Joyce.

From: " angelduffy2002 "

low dose naltrexone

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] (unknown)

Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:38:44 -0000

IAm confuse,so can you take ldn in the morning instead of night time

some of the post make it sound like you can?

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Yes he did say you can. Mainly that you can cut the dose and have it

at night and then in the day. But yes he said some may need to take it

in the morning to stimulate. So I guess each case is different.

Want me to call and check for you?

On Monday, Aug 11, 2003, at 19:38 US/Central, angelduffy2002 wrote:

> IAm confuse,so can you take ldn in the morning instead of night time

> some of the post make it sound like you can?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I can check for you. But the idea is that it works on the part of the

brain that is healing at that time of night. So I do know it has to

be taken then. What I was told is you can take another in the morning

if night time one didn't leave you with enough energy.

I can call and find out more if anyone wants me to. Let me know.

Mira

On Monday, Aug 11, 2003, at 19:51 US/Central, wkendz 32 wrote:

> According to Dr. Bihari it should be taken between 9:00 and I think

> 2:00 am.

> I don't think it even works if you take it at any other time of day.

> Not

> quite sure why any doctor would tell you to do that but hey....we are

> all

> just experimenting here. I would not advise taking it any other time

> of day.

> Why risk it. Maybe someone could ask Dr. Bihari more specifically why

> this

> is the case on their next visit? Joyce.

>

>

> From: " angelduffy2002 "

> low dose naltrexone

> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] (unknown)

> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:38:44 -0000

> IAm confuse,so can you take ldn in the morning instead of night time

> some of the post make it sound like you can?

>

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Since you have posted here it looks to me like you have joined. Welcome

aboard.

What is your disease? MS? Cancer? etc?

Noland

----- Original Message -----

From: <spexl@...>

<low dose naltrexone >

Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 4:52 PM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] (unknown)

> what do i need to do to join the group?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't have anything to report about Novantrone with LDN, although I will

at some point, I imagine. I take LDN now, and I will be going on Novantrone

with it in December.

Bou

[Guest guest]

It certainly would not hurt to try LDN. You have everything to gain and

nothing to lose. The cost is very reasonable.

Noland

----- Original Message -----

From: <spexl@...>

<low dose naltrexone >

Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 12:56 PM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] (unknown)

> I'M CURRENTLY TAKING NOVANTRONE AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE HELPING MUCH.

> DO YOU THINK LDN WOULD HAVE BETTER RESULTS? OR MAYBE A COMBINATION OF

> THE TWO MIGHT BE BETTER?

>

>

>

>