Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Hi Debbie, I feel I need to explain better. In Sept he lost his IEP because he refused to go to speech class. They said he no longer had a qualifying diagnosis (even though it was sensory integration dysfunction) and that we would have to start over for a 504. I told her we suspected he had TS and OCD. She told me that I should talk to his teachers and see what accommodations they felt they could do until the 504, if he qualified, kicked in. Oct 16 he got his diagnosis, TS and OCD. I called her, she said she would like academic testing done, and that just because he has TS and OCD didn't mean he qualified for a 504. She suggested we do it outside the school as it would be quicker, and of course we pay the bill. so we did. in the meantime she said continue to work with the teachers on what accommodations you would like for him. so I tried, I just had one teacher that wouldn't work with me, the other was great. Anyway she complained to the principal that I was asking for accommodations. that's when he called me and told me to stop asking his teachers for accommodations, Micah didn't have a 504, and he didn't know if he would get one until the testing was done. I reminded him we had given him the diagnosis from the Dr that he has TS, and OCD, but he said that still doesn't mean he needs a 504. then he told me to stop referring to my child as a special ed child. he's not, he's not getting services. I told him, I was sorry, I thought any child that got any special help was special ed, but he said that's not true. personally I thought it was splitting hairs. its not like I was going around telling every one, just the 2 teachers I was dealing, did I refer to him as special ed, which he was up until 5 grade. I just assumed a child that would be getting a 504, was special ed. (got the papers from Dr. yesterday...guess what...he needs an IEP or 504. He rated him under OHI) obliviously the principal upset me very much, I cried a lot, mainly stress, fear, but I also felt sucker punched, I'd done what I was told, and then was told in a nice way to back off. I would not have asked her 2 or 3 times, if she would have answered the first time, but she didn't. I gave her the benefit of the doubt that she wasn't ignoring me, but I guess she was. anyway...my husband, called the principals boss!!! OMGosh!! I didn't know until he told me. Well let me tell you things sure changed after that. the principal called my husband and said what would you like in the accommodations until the 504 takes effect? totally different attitude. My husband also told him that I wouldn't have asked multiple times had the teacher responded, and that I didn't know if she got the email, over looked the question, or what, the principal didn't realize she wasn't responding. I guess it pays to have guts...I would never had done that. But it sure fixed things. In a message dated 12/3/2008 3:15:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, deborahcavender@... writes: , I find that absolutely amazing that the principal said you can't even use the word 504! That's really the most ridiculous thing i've heard! Public schools are required BY LAW to set up a 504 if you request it and you have documentation from his therapist. When I initiated 's, I contacted her principal. He asked for the documentation and once he had it, got the ball rolling. After we had our meeting with him and the teachers, they wrote it all up in a legal document and I signed it. I would try just once more to ask the principal to set up a meeting with him, you, and this teacher to try to work things out. Tell him you feel things have gotten off on the wrong foot and you'd like a chance to discuss the situation with everyone involved with your son. Ask him this in a letter or email and keep a copy. If he refuses, you may have to print your state's 504 law and just show up at school. If he still doesn't cooperate, I'd go to the superintendent of your school system. **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 , I am so sorry you had such a bad experience. Some people have no business going into the field of education! I am a teacher (on a break) and I made accommodations for kids all the time who did not have IEPS or 504s. It's called meeting students where they are! Ugh. I get so angry when I read things like this. I hope things turn around for you. Annie _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of ccfcrwmc@... Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 12:28 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: public school Hi Debbie, I feel I need to explain better. In Sept he lost his IEP because he refused to go to speech class. They said he no longer had a qualifying diagnosis (even though it was sensory integration dysfunction) and that we would have to start over for a 504. I told her we suspected he had TS and OCD. She told me that I should talk to his teachers and see what accommodations they felt they could do until the 504, if he qualified, kicked in. Oct 16 he got his diagnosis, TS and OCD. I called her, she said she would like academic testing done, and that just because he has TS and OCD didn't mean he qualified for a 504. She suggested we do it outside the school as it would be quicker, and of course we pay the bill. so we did. in the meantime she said continue to work with the teachers on what accommodations you would like for him. so I tried, I just had one teacher that wouldn't work with me, the other was great. Anyway she complained to the principal that I was asking for accommodations. that's when he called me and told me to stop asking his teachers for accommodations, Micah didn't have a 504, and he didn't know if he would get one until the testing was done. I reminded him we had given him the diagnosis from the Dr that he has TS, and OCD, but he said that still doesn't mean he needs a 504. then he told me to stop referring to my child as a special ed child. he's not, he's not getting services. I told him, I was sorry, I thought any child that got any special help was special ed, but he said that's not true. personally I thought it was splitting hairs. its not like I was going around telling every one, just the 2 teachers I was dealing, did I refer to him as special ed, which he was up until 5 grade. I just assumed a child that would be getting a 504, was special ed. (got the papers from Dr. yesterday...guess what...he needs an IEP or 504. He rated him under OHI) obliviously the principal upset me very much, I cried a lot, mainly stress, fear, but I also felt sucker punched, I'd done what I was told, and then was told in a nice way to back off. I would not have asked her 2 or 3 times, if she would have answered the first time, but she didn't. I gave her the benefit of the doubt that she wasn't ignoring me, but I guess she was. anyway...my husband, called the principals boss!!! OMGosh!! I didn't know until he told me. Well let me tell you things sure changed after that. the principal called my husband and said what would you like in the accommodations until the 504 takes effect? totally different attitude. My husband also told him that I wouldn't have asked multiple times had the teacher responded, and that I didn't know if she got the email, over looked the question, or what, the principal didn't realize she wasn't responding. I guess it pays to have guts...I would never had done that. But it sure fixed things. In a message dated 12/3/2008 3:15:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, deborahcavender@ <mailto:deborahcavender%40netzero.net> netzero.net writes: , I find that absolutely amazing that the principal said you can't even use the word 504! That's really the most ridiculous thing i've heard! Public schools are required BY LAW to set up a 504 if you request it and you have documentation from his therapist. When I initiated 's, I contacted her principal. He asked for the documentation and once he had it, got the ball rolling. After we had our meeting with him and the teachers, they wrote it all up in a legal document and I signed it. I would try just once more to ask the principal to set up a meeting with him, you, and this teacher to try to work things out. Tell him you feel things have gotten off on the wrong foot and you'd like a chance to discuss the situation with everyone involved with your son. Ask him this in a letter or email and keep a copy. If he refuses, you may have to print your state's 504 law and just show up at school. If he still doesn't cooperate, I'd go to the superintendent of your school system. **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 010> com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 As a speech-language pathologist in the public schools I have to say I am so proud of you and your husband!! I am so glad that you have seen a complete 180 with your principal - as it should be! BTW - if Micah has an OHI diagnosis - this is a category in special education so he could have a true IEP instead of a 504. Just a thought.....not sure if he needs any special services or just accomodations. I've learned that nobody can fight for a child like their parents and nobody can get things done in public schools like parents can......WAY TO GO! Beth mom to , 10 ½ w/ mild OCD >>> 12/4/2008 12:27 PM >>> Hi Debbie, I feel I need to explain better. In Sept he lost his IEP because he refused to go to speech class. They said he no longer had a qualifying diagnosis (even though it was sensory integration dysfunction) and that we would have to start over for a 504. I told her we suspected he had TS and OCD. She told me that I should talk to his teachers and see what accommodations they felt they could do until the 504, if he qualified, kicked in. Oct 16 he got his diagnosis, TS and OCD. I called her, she said she would like academic testing done, and that just because he has TS and OCD didn't mean he qualified for a 504. She suggested we do it outside the school as it would be quicker, and of course we pay the bill. so we did. in the meantime she said continue to work with the teachers on what accommodations you would like for him. so I tried, I just had one teacher that wouldn't work with me, the other was great. Anyway she complained to the principal that I was asking for accommodations. that's when he called me and told me to stop asking his teachers for accommodations, Micah didn't have a 504, and he didn't know if he would get one until the testing was done. I reminded him we had given him the diagnosis from the Dr that he has TS, and OCD, but he said that still doesn't mean he needs a 504. then he told me to stop referring to my child as a special ed child. he's not, he's not getting services. I told him, I was sorry, I thought any child that got any special help was special ed, but he said that's not true. personally I thought it was splitting hairs. its not like I was going around telling every one, just the 2 teachers I was dealing, did I refer to him as special ed, which he was up until 5 grade. I just assumed a child that would be getting a 504, was special ed. (got the papers from Dr. yesterday...guess what...he needs an IEP or 504. He rated him under OHI) obliviously the principal upset me very much, I cried a lot, mainly stress, fear, but I also felt sucker punched, I'd done what I was told, and then was told in a nice way to back off. I would not have asked her 2 or 3 times, if she would have answered the first time, but she didn't. I gave her the benefit of the doubt that she wasn't ignoring me, but I guess she was. anyway...my husband, called the principals boss!!! OMGosh!! I didn't know until he told me. Well let me tell you things sure changed after that. the principal called my husband and said what would you like in the accommodations until the 504 takes effect? totally different attitude. My husband also told him that I wouldn't have asked multiple times had the teacher responded, and that I didn't know if she got the email, over looked the question, or what, the principal didn't realize she wasn't responding. I guess it pays to have guts...I would never had done that. But it sure fixed things. In a message dated 12/3/2008 3:15:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, deborahcavender@... writes: , I find that absolutely amazing that the principal said you can't even use the word 504! That's really the most ridiculous thing i've heard! Public schools are required BY LAW to set up a 504 if you request it and you have documentation from his therapist. When I initiated 's, I contacted her principal. He asked for the documentation and once he had it, got the ball rolling. After we had our meeting with him and the teachers, they wrote it all up in a legal document and I signed it. I would try just once more to ask the principal to set up a meeting with him, you, and this teacher to try to work things out. Tell him you feel things have gotten off on the wrong foot and you'd like a chance to discuss the situation with everyone involved with your son. Ask him this in a letter or email and keep a copy. If he refuses, you may have to print your state's 504 law and just show up at school. If he still doesn't cooperate, I'd go to the superintendent of your school system. **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Thanks BJ, It feels so good....I was really stressed out over it. In a message dated 12/5/2008 12:10:13 A.M. Central Standard Time, BJClosner@... writes: Good for your husband, . I'm so glad he motivated them to do the right thing. Unfortunately there are some people out there who just respond to a man more seriously. That has been our experience at times. But, for whatever reason, I'm glad for you. You don't need the added stress. BJ **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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