Re: urinating on self

[Guest guest]

I've been trying not to post until I've answered out standing emails, but it

seems we are in such a downward spiral, and Its happening so fast.

I went into Micah's room this morning...and it smelled like urine. I asked

him why his room smells like pee. At first he wouldn't answer me. Then he said

he accidentally wet himself, so I had him change his underwear PJ's and clean

himself up.

Well while he was gone, the smell stayed. I started smelling his quilt,

sheets, blanket, he has been wetting himself while in bed! I asked him if he did

this in his sleep, but he said no.

He's just lying in bed and peeing on himself. I asked him why, but he said I

don't know. He doesn't even change his clothes afterward. He's been doing it

for a week.

I've stripped everything off the bed, and it made it to the mattress, even

with a mattress pad and mattress protector (supposedly water proof).

I don't know what to do, and to make matters worse, I feel so bad, because I

yelled at him. I know its not his fault, but I yelled and said what's wrong

with you. I wish I could take those words back.

we sat down and talked about it, I told him how sorry I was for what I said.

but I still feel awful. I know he doesn't want to do these things. It just

came out... I feel like I'm losing it.

Between the poop smell, spitting, and now peeing....I just feel like I'm at

the end of my rope.

Has anyone else had a child that started wetting themselves, and lying in it?

[Guest guest]

Hi his first appt with psychologist is next Wednesday, but she cant

give him meds.

We have an appt with neurologist the 22, but don't know if he will give

meds.

The Neuropsychologist called psychiatrist and asked him to move Micahs appt

up, as I couldn't get him in any sooner than March. Hopefully the appt will

be soon, and we can get him on something, as things are getting bad fast.

I got the message from the Neuropsychologist to call psychiatrist after 1,

but their office had closed at noon. So I have to wait until Monday. All this

waiting!!

In a message dated 12/6/2008 5:05:10 P.M. Central Standard Time,

@... writes:

, has he started any medication for OCD yet? Some kids begin

wetting the bed, so was wondering. Doesn't happen often, but does/can

happen.

in NC

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[Guest guest]

Hi BJ,

thanks for trying to make me feel better, I'm still trying.

I wish he were a sleep when he did it, it would be so Micah easier to

understand. but no he says he does it while he is laying in bed watching TV. I

asked him why he didn't get up and go, but he just said he didn't know.

Not wetting his pants any other time, except he admitted he had done it

while playing video games once.

I think he just doesn't want to get up.....I don't know........I don't know

what to think

I don't know anything about the Drs any one you would suggest

thanks for the prayers BJ,

In a message dated 12/6/2008 5:34:52 P.M. Central Standard Time,

BJClosner@... writes:

Do you think Micah might be sleeping so soundly that he is not waking

up all the way to make it to the bathroom? You know, like he knows it

is happening, but he isn't awake enough to get up and do something

about it?

Does he pee in his pants any other time of the day? Or is he having

issues with using the bathroom any other time, for any other reason?

It's so hard to know sometimes what fears they have and how it's being

applied.

Seems like I remember someone in here mentioning a while back that

they had a child who was having a problem wetting their pants after

they started taking an antidepressant, so had to switch to another

kind, and that helped. I searched back, but couldn't find the post

though. Barb, do either of you remember that?

, you might consider writing to some of the experts here, maybe

Dr. Wagner, Dr. Chansky, Dr. , or Dr. Geller, to see what they

might think. If you do, include his diagnosis' and meds. They could

be of more help with it, maybe. I hope they can give you some good

information. You and Micah are in my prayers.

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[Guest guest]

HI ,

 

I'm sorry you are having such a rough time. I feel pretty safe in saying I bet

we have all lost our tempers and raised our voices at some point. I had a moment

like that myself this morning.

 

Parents are not saints and we make mistakes. This is true of those that have

kids without any challenges as well. Please don't be to hard on yourself.

 

I'm back to using BJ's suggestions and taking lots of showers   It is helping

me get a few moments to myself and to clear my head.

 

Big hugs to you.

~~Kathy

 

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Courage is not living without fear.

Courage is being scared to death and doing the right thing anyway.

-Chae

Subject: Re: Re: urinating on self

To:

Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 12:58 PM

I've been trying not to post until I've answered out standing emails, but it

seems we are in such a downward spiral, and Its happening so fast.

I went into Micah's room this morning...and it smelled like urine. I asked

him why his room smells like pee. At first he wouldn't answer me. Then he said

he accidentally wet himself, so I had him change his underwear PJ's and clean

himself up.

Well while he was gone, the smell stayed. I started smelling his quilt,

sheets, blanket, he has been wetting himself while in bed! I asked him if he did

this in his sleep, but he said no.

He's just lying in bed and peeing on himself. I asked him why, but he said I

don't know. He doesn't even change his clothes afterward. He's been doing it

for a week.

I've stripped everything off the bed, and it made it to the mattress, even

with a mattress pad and mattress protector (supposedly water proof).

I don't know what to do, and to make matters worse, I feel so bad, because I

yelled at him. I know its not his fault, but I yelled and said what's wrong

with you. I wish I could take those words back.

we sat down and talked about it, I told him how sorry I was for what I said.

but I still feel awful. I know he doesn't want to do these things. It just

came out... I feel like I'm losing it.

Between the poop smell, spitting, and now peeing....I just feel like I'm at

the end of my rope.

Has anyone else had a child that started wetting themselves, and lying in it?

[Guest guest]

, has he started any medication for OCD yet? Some kids begin

wetting the bed, so was wondering. Doesn't happen often, but does/can

happen.

>

> I've been trying not to post until I've answered out standing emails,

but it

> seems we are in such a downward spiral, and Its happening so fast.

>

> I went into Micah's room this morning...and it smelled like urine. I

asked

> him why his room smells like pee. At first he wouldn't answer me.

Then he said

> he accidentally wet himself, so I had him change his underwear PJ's

[Guest guest]

::::Raising hand::::: Yep, I've yelled at my kid and felt horrible

afterwards. Makes you feel horrible. We all have our breaking point.

But, I think there can be a silver lining. Kids figure out parents

aren't perfect either, and maybe that takes some of the stress off of

them to be perfect. You did the right thing, , by going to him

and apologizing for losing your cool. That sets a great example for

him, on how it should be handled. Don't beat yourself up. You are

human, Hon.

The only urinary issues I've read about, and we also experienced,

associated with OCD is them thinking they need to go to empty their

bladder, when they don't have to. Josh stood in the bathroom for

hours at times, unable to come out, due to him thinking he still had

some in his bladder that needed to come out. It was truly awful.

Do you think Micah might be sleeping so soundly that he is not waking

up all the way to make it to the bathroom? You know, like he knows it

is happening, but he isn't awake enough to get up and do something

about it?

Does he pee in his pants any other time of the day? Or is he having

issues with using the bathroom any other time, for any other reason?

It's so hard to know sometimes what fears they have and how it's being

applied.

Seems like I remember someone in here mentioning a while back that

they had a child who was having a problem wetting their pants after

they started taking an antidepressant, so had to switch to another

kind, and that helped. I searched back, but couldn't find the post

though. Barb, do either of you remember that?

, you might consider writing to some of the experts here, maybe

Dr. Wagner, Dr. Chansky, Dr. , or Dr. Geller, to see what they

might think. If you do, include his diagnosis' and meds. They could

be of more help with it, maybe. I hope they can give you some good

information. You and Micah are in my prayers.

Hugs,

BJ

>

> I've been trying not to post until I've answered out standing

emails, but it

> seems we are in such a downward spiral, and Its happening so fast.

>

> I went into Micah's room this morning...and it smelled like urine. I

asked

> him why his room smells like pee. At first he wouldn't answer me.

Then he said

> he accidentally wet himself, so I had him change his underwear PJ's

and clean

> himself up.

>

> Well while he was gone, the smell stayed. I started smelling his

quilt,

> sheets, blanket, he has been wetting himself while in bed! I asked

him if he did

> this in his sleep, but he said no.

>

> He's just lying in bed and peeing on himself. I asked him why, but

he said I

> don't know. He doesn't even change his clothes afterward. He's been

doing it

> for a week.

>

> I've stripped everything off the bed, and it made it to the

mattress, even

> with a mattress pad and mattress protector (supposedly water proof).

>

> I don't know what to do, and to make matters worse, I feel so bad,

because I

> yelled at him. I know its not his fault, but I yelled and said

what's wrong

> with you. I wish I could take those words back.

>

> we sat down and talked about it, I told him how sorry I was for what

I said.

> but I still feel awful. I know he doesn't want to do these things.

It just

> came out... I feel like I'm losing it.

>

> Between the poop smell, spitting, and now peeing....I just feel like

I'm at

> the end of my rope.

>

> Has anyone else had a child that started wetting themselves, and

lying in it?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, does he have any transition rituals attached to his OCD? If it's

difficult for him to get out of bed, go through the doors, and get

whatever clothing adjusted to go to the bathroom, he may see peeing in

bed as being less difficult than going through all the transition rituals.

So sorry you're going through that, and you did just right by going back

to him to apologize for losing your cool. Everyone does, and you're

modeling the right behavior for him, too.

take care

ccfcrwmc@... wrote:

>

> Hi BJ,

> thanks for trying to make me feel better, I'm still trying.

>

> I wish he were a sleep when he did it, it would be so Micah easier to

> understand. but no he says he does it while he is laying in bed

> watching TV. I

> asked him why he didn't get up and go, but he just said he didn't know.

>

> Not wetting his pants any other time, except he admitted he had done it

> while playing video games once.

>

> I think he just doesn't want to get up.....I don't know........I don't

> know

> what to think

>

> I don't know anything about the Drs any one you would suggest

>

> thanks for the prayers BJ,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, . If you go into the " Home " page, you can see their names

with their websites listed next to their names. You can go in their

websites and read about them to see who you'd like to ask. I would

definitely include Dr. Geller, because he is a pediatric psychiatrist

and could offer information on if he thinks it might be drug related.

I've personally found Dr. Wagner to very helpful too, but I'm sure

they are all great. We are so fortunate to have access to these great

experts, through Louis, and that they are willing to offer their time

and expertise.

(((hugs to you)))

BJ

>

> Hi BJ,

> thanks for trying to make me feel better, I'm still trying.

>

> I wish he were a sleep when he did it, it would be so Micah easier to

> understand. but no he says he does it while he is laying in bed

watching TV. I

> asked him why he didn't get up and go, but he just said he didn't know.

>

> Not wetting his pants any other time, except he admitted he had done

it

> while playing video games once.

>

> I think he just doesn't want to get up.....I don't know........I

don't know

> what to think

>

> I don't know anything about the Drs any one you would suggest

>

> thanks for the prayers BJ,

>

>

>

> In a message dated 12/6/2008 5:34:52 P.M. Central Standard Time,

> BJClosner@... writes:

>

> Do you think Micah might be sleeping so soundly that he is not waking

> up all the way to make it to the bathroom? You know, like he knows it

> is happening, but he isn't awake enough to get up and do something

> about it?

>

> Does he pee in his pants any other time of the day? Or is he having

> issues with using the bathroom any other time, for any other reason?

> It's so hard to know sometimes what fears they have and how it's being

> applied.

>

> Seems like I remember someone in here mentioning a while back that

> they had a child who was having a problem wetting their pants after

> they started taking an antidepressant, so had to switch to another

> kind, and that helped. I searched back, but couldn't find the post

> though. Barb, do either of you remember that?

>

> , you might consider writing to some of the experts here, maybe

> Dr. Wagner, Dr. Chansky, Dr. , or Dr. Geller, to see what they

> might think. If you do, include his diagnosis' and meds. They could

> be of more help with it, maybe. I hope they can give you some good

> information. You and Micah are in my prayers.

>

>

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You know I'm not really sure. He does have problems with doorways and rugs,

and getting in bed just right, I cant remember if getting out is a problem.

I never thought of that.

Thanks for the support,

In a message dated 12/6/2008 6:25:42 P.M. Central Standard Time,

bootless@... writes:

, does he have any transition rituals attached to his OCD? If it's

difficult for him to get out of bed, go through the doors, and get

whatever clothing adjusted to go to the bathroom, he may see peeing in

bed as being less difficult than going through all the transition rituals.

So sorry you're going through that, and you did just right by going back

to him to apologize for losing your cool. Everyone does, and you're

modeling the right behavior for him, too.

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