Re: OCD and learning

[Guest guest]

Found a great web site about how OCD impacts learning, thought Id share it,

incase no one had.

_http://www.do2learn.com/disabilities/diagnosis/ocd/impactonlearning.htm_

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Thank you! I just order the book Teaching the Tiger. And thanks to

everyone who's offered advice to me this past week, on nutrition, B8,

and on patience. I was wrapped up in what was going on at home and I

never formally said Thank You.

> Found a great web site about how OCD impacts learning, thought Id

share it, in case no one had.

(http://www.do2learn.com/disabilities/diagnosis/ocd/impactonlearning.htm

>

[Guest guest]

WOW! I, too, am VERY surprised at what this study says. Everything I have ever

read on OCD says that the majority of children with OCD are highly intelligent

or have above average intelligence. However, it is only one report. Just kind of

shocking. My daughter amazes me with how she excels at school while fighting

OCD. I have a hard time getting through it some days and I'm not even the one

who has it!!! My dd inspires me that way.

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks.  That makes sense.

Re: OCD and learning

The do2learn site is used a lot for those on the autism spectrum. And

those on the spectrum often have obsessive behaviors/needs, strict

rituals, etc. It's a great site for those who need pictures or check

lists, etc.

Just FYI for everyone.

[Guest guest]

Hmmmm.... Well this one surely is individual I think. Our son does not

fall into the " highly intelligent " category. Creative yes, and I do

believe there are different forms of intelligence, so I believe our son

has his areas. But when it comes to school we already had LD on board,

so OCD just made it that much harder. Ours is two years behind now,

and we are trying to streamline the process to make it as managable as

possible. This aspect has been a very great challenge.

Our son has said himself that it was nearly impossible for him to

process information when he was at his most ill. Considering that he

has an auditory processing defecit in the first place, this would make

sense....

I know others in our support group who chuckle at the " intelligence "

linked to kids with OCD, not their experience either. Guess we missed

this " helping " in the mix! Wonder if this contributed to what they

called " lack of insight " with our son??? (tongue in cheek)

Barb

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> WOW! I, too, am VERY surprised at what this study says. Everything I

have ever read on OCD says that the majority of children with OCD are

highly intelligent or have above average intelligence. However, it is

only one report. Just kind of shocking. My daughter amazes me with how

she excels at school while fighting OCD. I have a hard time getting

through it some days and I'm not even the one who has it!!! My dd

inspires me that way.

>  

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, for a time when I was a sophomore in college, I had problems writing

anything down on my notebook paper because if there was a speck of red ink from

the margin line anywhere on the page, I would be afraid that someone with a name

that began with the letter that touched that spot might have something bad

happen to them.  I would be crossing out word after word after word because of

fears like that.  I could barely get anything on a page.  Thus, OCD can affect

output, but it didn't affect my underlying intelligence or reasoning ability.

Re: Re: OCD and learning

Found a great web site about how OCD impacts learning, thought Id share it,

incase no one had.

_http://www.do2learn .com/disabilitie s/di

agnosis/ ocd/impactonlear ning.htm_

(http://www.do2learn .com/disabilitie s/diagnosis/ ocd/impactonlear ning.htm)

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[Guest guest]

Very good points you've made here that just go to show, like you

said, each case is very individual. I agree that intelligence is

measured on many levels also and it is so interesting to me that many

with OCD also have other illnesses such as GAD, Tourette's, or as I

read in another post Asperger's. Were these factored into the study?

As if OCD isn't enough by itself! I truly hope my remarks were not

insulting. They weren't meant to be and I apologize if anyone felt

that way. My dd was only diagnosed as of Aug. so we are new and still

learning.

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> > WOW! I, too, am VERY surprised at what this study says.

Everything I

> have ever read on OCD says that the majority of children with OCD

are

> highly intelligent or have above average intelligence. However, it

is

> only one report. Just kind of shocking. My daughter amazes me with

how

> she excels at school while fighting OCD. I have a hard time getting

> through it some days and I'm not even the one who has it!!! My dd

> inspires me that way.

> >  

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

That's the way it is here. Micah tested normal for intelligence...93. Not

bad, but not great, but still within the normal range. Micah is also very

creative, just not book smart...he really struggles with learning, and to

remember.

He loves to write, has been writing books since he was in K. Make that

loved, he stopped writing this year, when the OCD took over his life.

I pulled samples of his handwriting for the school, going back to 2nd grade.

He was writing as you would expect until the end of 4th grade. Then his

writing changed, it became large, disorganized, upper and lower case mixed

together. This is when he fist started touching things, but we didn't yet know

what

was going on.

Now in the 6 grade...there is no longer any space between his words, letters

are large, leaning left and right, on and off the line, its a mess. The OCD

has stolen his desire to write, his imagination is still there, but he wont

write anymore.

It seems, from what I've read so far, the kids that have just OCD (like OCD

isn't enough to deal with) do much better, they are very smart, and excel,

but the kids that have OCD plus something else, they have to work so much

harder just to get by.

Micah studies for hours, and still gets Cs and Ds. But what's odd is that

this is just this year. Up until now, he had been A/B honor roll, he got his

first C at the end of 5th grade. The only changes....TS has gotten worse as has

the OCD. Last year we noticed he was doing some odd things, but it didn't

really send up a red flag, as it didn't interfere with his life, we just

noticed, but didn't know what we were seeing.

All that changed this year, I'm thinking because of puberty. I know puberty

makes TS worse, but I don't know how it impacts OCD. But something has

happened, he's not the same child he was last year, or all the years before.

Its

like someone snuck in, and in the middle of the night.... stole his abilities,

and common sense, he had them, where'd they go? I'm hoping all is still there,

just buried in confusion, and we will find our creative son again.

Thankfully he's still the same thoughtful caring kid, that part of him

hasn't changed, or gone into hiding.

I'm hoping things will improve with meds for the OCD, and we will get back

to where he had been, able to achieve A/B with hard work.

In a message dated 11/24/2008 9:59:27 P.M. Central Standard Time,

barbnesrallah@... writes:

Hmmmm.... Well this one surely is individual I think. Our son does not

fall into the " highly intelligent " category. Creative yes, and I do

believe there are different forms of intelligence, so I believe our son

has his areas. But when it comes to school we already had LD on board,

so OCD just made it that much harder. Ours is two years behind now,

and we are trying to streamline the process to make it as managable as

possible. This aspect has been a very great challenge.

Our son has said himself that it was nearly impossible for him to

process information when he was at his most ill. Considering that he

has an auditory processing defecit in the first place, this would make

sense....

I know others in our support group who chuckle at the " intelligence "

linked to kids with OCD, not their experience either. Guess we missed

this " helping " in the mix! Wonder if this contributed to what they

called " lack of insight " with our son??? (tongue in cheek)

Barb

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That's a great idea , thank you. Ive book marked them, so i can go back

and spend more time on their web site.

In a message dated 11/25/2008 3:06:51 P.M. Central Standard Time,

cward_ri@... writes:

,

My son was the same way until we worked on a couple of things:

1. Simple kid joke books

2. Analogies

3. making inferences

We ordered lots of products from a company called Linguisystems and they

have counselors you can talk to on the phone who can recommend products for

your

child based on your needs. I really like them because if you get something

and it is not what you thought or is not working well, you can return it.

They also have computer games, board games, etc depending on what skill you are

choosing to work on.

Good luck!

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I know exactly what you mean. I've tried to explain to one teacher in

particular, but it just falls on deaf ears. He now hates school, feels like a

failure and wants to quit.

We've decided to home school him next year rather than continue to try and

deal with the system.

I might pull him out after Christmas break, if I can get things lined up,

but it may be too soon.

We shall see, I wish you the best.

In a message dated 11/27/2008 6:47:59 A.M. Central Standard Time,

m.snyder78@... writes:

I thought I'd jump in here, glad to see TS talked about here. My six

year old son has TS and OCD PANDAS. I have been going around with the

school on accomodations for a year. In his MFE he tested average

ability. That means he qualifies for no help. I tried to make them

understand that due to his disabilities things are much harder for

him. I read examples from articles of areas he would need more help

in. The team all decided at this time he needs no additional help. He

only gets OT at school once a week under IDEA for his dygraphia and

hyptonia. His tics are much worse now then they were at the beginning

of the year. I believe it is stress related and immune because of

recent strep going around the classroom. His handwriting is horrible

and worse during waxing. I also do private OT once a week for motor

issues.

If you find a way to convince the school that his learning is affected

even though his ability is good please let me know. Could someone here

describe the psych educational testing? Lately my son's emotions are

off the chart too. He has so much going on it is really overwhelming!

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