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Hi there,

This is Vicki in Cali.... I have Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue and

the stress of life can be overwhelming at times.... it is funny that

when our kids are doing well, it is as if our bodies and minds know it

and that is when we are the ones who need help....

The one thing that helps greatly is physical activity... are you

doing this...??? I don't mean anything that exhausts you... but even

a 10 minute walk 1 to 2 times a day... in the cold, in the heat, even

stretching, getting the blood flowing and the chemical levels in the

brain changing. Also... could it be weather related at all... with

the winter weather. We are purchasing my father a " blue light " they

have one at costco for $109.00 it is a special light that provides

the body the necessary " sun " light during the winter... a lot of

people's chemical makeup changes and it either causes depression or

increases the depression people already have.... so....

Why don't you keep a diary of your feelings... and start with 1 or 2

10 minute walks a day and see if you are able to get a blue light... I

don't know if you are in the financial position to buy one... but I

have read review after review after review at how much they help

people.

Lastly.... give yourself a break! you are a supportive Mom.... you

are in a down time and you are taking ownership of that, that is great

right there. Don't beat yourself up over this! If you believe in

God.... pray.....

I know a huge part of depression is the motivation to help ones

self... you are reaching out and I want to hear from you at what you

are doing to move forward with this... stick with the meds...

Have you tried Melatonin for sleeping.... it is an all natural pill

that you get at the health store... we have used it with our kids to

get them on a better sleep routine... it can be used for anyone, any

age... it is a natural sleep aid. The body produces melatonin....

this is an extra dose of it....

again... lastly... since lastly last time didn't work for me, I will

try it again :) do you give yourself time to veg at night. When the

kids go to bed.... do something that allows your mind to shut off...

I play games on the computer... like scrabble cubes or flip words...

you have to think about words or strategy, so you are not able to

think of everything else in the world....

I hope one of these things help.... let us know.... our mental health

is so important... for us to be able to advocate and support our

children's mental health....

Happy thoughts and hugs from Northern California....

Vicki

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Hi there,

I also have times of depression, spring/fall in particular.

Medication has never helped for me so I have tried many other

alternatives. It is individual I know but here are a few things that

I find really help-

Light box, by Apollo(can assist with sleep too)

Vit D - 2000mg (sunshine vitamin)

Chinese Emotional Remedy - (best to get TCM practioner who will do an

assessment)This one I am amazed at how quickly and well it can help

Accupuncture

20mins of natural light, walk, no sunglasses, light need to hit the

retina

CBT - Talk back to negative thoughts, or not listen, not asign

meaning to the depression, just be with it

Make myself get out even when I don't want to

Do something for someone else(ok, I sound like my Mother...)

Watch comedies or something uplifting

And when all else fails eat chocolate, it's a natural mood booster,

likewise coffee, my drug of choice!

Depression is in itself depressing, I know that maybe sounds stupid,

but it's how I feel. It can limit your life, your ability to

function, the choices you make because you are not sure you will be

able to follow through... Your brain is mush, don't care about

anything, and it feels impossible to move, but move you must I find.

Basically the behavioral part of CBT.

If I make myself do something, anything, clear a counter, clean out a

drawer(pathetic I know), but I think it is the distraction as well as

having an end result. Force myself to go out to a store and talk to

someone, or phone someone and ask about them. Alternately I lie down

and die for a while, and then get back up and start moving again.

The idea being to let the feeling wash over you, not try to fight it,

the fighting is what can get you stuck in it, I find I can cyle

through the feeling of it easier.

I remind myself that I LIVE with depression, unwelcome guest that it

is, I walk with it but it is not who I AM. The separation helps a

lot, very Zen, the " isness " of it and all, if I can separate and look

at it then I know it is not me that is the depression. I imagine it

is much like the OCD, it lives in your head, but it is not who you

ARE. Ok, so I'm not sure if that makes any sense to you, but it is

very powerful for me.

I find if I focus on what I CAN do rather than what I can't, and try

to hold a positive focus, which I had to learn is mainly a choice.

Ok, so I feel like I am getting too Polly again, hope it's not

too annoying to you. When I'm depressed I find these sorts of

suggestions annoying myself, so I'll understand if you are swearing

at you computer screen right now...

Has bipolar been considered? My understanding is that repeated

cycles of depression, even without mania is considered bipolar. Not

sure if it is medicated any differently though. My sister (bipolar

depression) found Wellbutrin and Effexor helpful at various times,

after many years of drug trials. I keep trying medications myself now

and then, just to see if something new will help, no luck yet, but I

am lucky in that it cycles and moves in the other direction...and

that I can function still.

Hang in there. I hope you DO find a medication that is helpful.

I send you a big hug!

Barb

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> My daughter pretty much has her " issues " (OCD, ADD) under control;

however I

> do not. So, I was hoping to reach out for some advice.

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> I have battled depression for 10 years. I started on Zoloft way

back then,

> and it worked for about 5-6 years, although, over the years I did

have to

> continue to up the dosage. I tried the vitamin supplement route

for about

> one year, and decided that was just not going to work for me. Just

within

> the last couple of months, I started Cymbalta. I am taking the

maximum

> dosage of 90mg. It has helped a little bit, but not as much as I

would like

> it to. I have tried taking it at different times of the day; I

tried

> dividing the dosage between morning and evening, still no

improvement. I

> still have issues with sleep and my mood still needs improvement.

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> I hate to have to wean myself and start over, but I am thinking

that might

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Was just catching up on posts, and had to respond.

First of all, I was also thinking/wondering about about suggesting

CBT, so glad you mentioned that, Barb.

But, I also wanted to comment how courageous you are, Barb. Listening

to you describe your struggle with your BPD, it really hit me how

disabling it is for you. Yet, you keep going, reaching out to others

here too, despite your own struggle. Wow! Impressive! ::::pat on

the back and hugs:::::

BJ

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> > My daughter pretty much has her " issues " (OCD, ADD) under control;

> however I

> > do not. So, I was hoping to reach out for some advice.

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> > I have battled depression for 10 years. I started on Zoloft way

> back then,

> > and it worked for about 5-6 years, although, over the years I did

> have to

> > continue to up the dosage. I tried the vitamin supplement route

> for about

> > one year, and decided that was just not going to work for me. Just

> within

> > the last couple of months, I started Cymbalta. I am taking the

> maximum

> > dosage of 90mg. It has helped a little bit, but not as much as I

> would like

> > it to. I have tried taking it at different times of the day; I

> tried

> > dividing the dosage between morning and evening, still no

> improvement. I

> > still have issues with sleep and my mood still needs improvement.

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> > I hate to have to wean myself and start over, but I am thinking

> that might

> > be necessary.any insight???

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Good suggestions, Vicki. I also have Fibromyalgia, along with a slew

of other health issues. I find exercising helps so much. Not only

physically, but mentally too.

BJ

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