Re: What a difference a week makes

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Great to hear of this turn around. So hard to ever know exactly what

helps to bring these changes, usually a mix of things I suspect, and

from what you describe I would think all of these things factored

into it. The Native Remedies/medication can help alleviate the

anxiety to a point where they are able to resist compulsions, and to

be able to participate in therapy/ERP.

I did mention the nine yr change idea and concerns around death, and

it does seem to me that at least some of the thought stuff is age

specific. Ours is a teen and was obsessed with identity issues, need

to be " tough " , this sort of thing.

There is no amount of " talking " about it that helps, just need to

have the insight that the obsessive nature of it is OCD, while

the " concern " part is a normal, human thing, both of which the answer

really is to just " sit " with it if you know what I mean. However

they get to this place of not " reacting " to the thoughts, this

ultimately is the answer I am seeing now clearly with ours.

Our son will speak about being bored and used to leave the classroom

frequently. Bored seemed to cover many things - couldn't focus,

couldn't tolerate something in the class " just right " stuff, needed

to move, restless, can't feel trapped. Some of this is part of who

our son is, then tangled with OCD stuff. Find ours was not good at

explaining what the problem was often and would use the " bored " thing

as a catch all. It is a form of avoidance too, I think, a form of

coping really, albeit not the ultimate answer, dare I say a male thing

(?).

I remember early on when our son started seeing someone for ERP, he

would also come out revitalized, with a better understanding and

feeling more powerful against the OCD. Our situation turned, and

ours got worse and then meds were needed and we travelled a bit of an

odyssey for a couple of years after that. But, I do believe that

having had that understanding about the OCD and what he needed to do

to combat it from the outset was a critical piece that somewhere deep

down he understood, and he is now able to employ.

The twists and turns with recovery with this disorder are different

for everyone and they just play out as they will. But the end goal

of ERP/not responding to the thoughts, is the way out, getting to

this place is generally the challenge. Sounds like you are already

there, at least in the understanding part, so this is HUGE!

Again, so happy to hear your news!

Hugs!

Barb

>

> Hi all,

>

> A week ago I posted about my 9 yr old son, who was having extreme

> difficulty with crying in school. He had started throwing up in

the

> morning before school, and I found out he was leaving the classroom

> 10-12 times a day to go to the nurse, bathroom or guidance

> counselor. His anxiety level was so high. I felt he had reached

the

> point of needing meds, and scheduled a psych evaluation for after

> Christmas. Well, he's done a complete turnaround in a week!

>

> I wish I knew why! He's been taking Native Remedy products for

> almost 5 weeks now - supposedly results are seen in 3-5 weeks. Is

> that it? He seemed to finally start to come to terms with his

> grandpa's recent death - talking about it, writing about it, making

> posters about him. Is that it? He met with his therapist again

> earlier this week, and he came out seeming so energized. She

showed

> him pictures in a textbook of a brainscan done on a person with OCD

> before therapy and after learning CBT/ERP - the " after " picture was

> considered " normal. " Is that it? Or is he just waning?

>

> I told him that he couldn't be leaving the classroom so many times

a

> day, and that the teacher was going to limit him to 4 passes a day,

> or else he'd have to make up the missed time after school. He said

> she had never told him that he couldn't go whenever he wanted, and

he

> was just leaving so much because he gets so bored. So now he's

only

> leaving 1-3 times a day.

>

> He certainly isn't " fine, " and he still is having thoughts about me

> and my husband dying. He says that it's because Grandpa just died,

> and it made him realize that we could die at any time also. He

knows

> grandpa died because he was very old, but he's just thinking about

it

> more now.

>

> Someone here (Barb?) mentioned the Waldorf Nine Year Change. I

think

> that's part of what's going on with him. Whatever it is, I'm just

> grateful for the break right now. I asked his therapist if she

> thought he should still get the psych evaluation, and she thought

we

> should cancel and wait and see how he is. She doesn't feel he's

bad

> enough for meds yet. Of course I realize this could all change in

> the blink of an eye, but for now, we'll hold off.

>

> Just had to share my bit of good news with all of you. I love this

> group so much, you have no idea.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > A week ago I posted about my 9 yr old son, who was having extreme

> > difficulty with crying in school. He had started throwing up in

> the

> > morning before school, and I found out he was leaving the classroom

> > 10-12 times a day to go to the nurse, bathroom or guidance

> > counselor. His anxiety level was so high. I felt he had reached

> the

> > point of needing meds, and scheduled a psych evaluation for after

> > Christmas. Well, he's done a complete turnaround in a week!

> >

> > I wish I knew why! He's been taking Native Remedy products for

> > almost 5 weeks now - supposedly results are seen in 3-5 weeks. Is

> > that it? He seemed to finally start to come to terms with his

> > grandpa's recent death - talking about it, writing about it, making

> > posters about him. Is that it? He met with his therapist again

> > earlier this week, and he came out seeming so energized. She

> showed

> > him pictures in a textbook of a brainscan done on a person with OCD

> > before therapy and after learning CBT/ERP - the " after " picture was

> > considered " normal. " Is that it? Or is he just waning?

> >

> > I told him that he couldn't be leaving the classroom so many times

> a

> > day, and that the teacher was going to limit him to 4 passes a day,

> > or else he'd have to make up the missed time after school. He said

> > she had never told him that he couldn't go whenever he wanted, and

> he

> > was just leaving so much because he gets so bored. So now he's

> only

> > leaving 1-3 times a day.

> >

> > He certainly isn't " fine, " and he still is having thoughts about me

> > and my husband dying. He says that it's because Grandpa just died,

> > and it made him realize that we could die at any time also. He

> knows

> > grandpa died because he was very old, but he's just thinking about

> it

> > more now.

> >

> > Someone here (Barb?) mentioned the Waldorf Nine Year Change. I

> think

> > that's part of what's going on with him. Whatever it is, I'm just

> > grateful for the break right now. I asked his therapist if she

> > thought he should still get the psych evaluation, and she thought

> we

> > should cancel and wait and see how he is. She doesn't feel he's

> bad

> > enough for meds yet. Of course I realize this could all change in

> > the blink of an eye, but for now, we'll hold off.

> >

> > Just had to share my bit of good news with all of you. I love this

> > group so much, you have no idea.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

See that is how I am when I am not on medication.  I so want to be off the

Anafranil, but 

it does work wonders for me.

Re: What a difference a week makes

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > A week ago I posted about my 9 yr old son, who was having extreme

> > difficulty with crying in school. He had started throwing up in

> the

> > morning before school, and I found out he was leaving the classroom

> > 10-12 times a day to go to the nurse, bathroom or guidance

> > counselor. His anxiety level was so high. I felt he had reached

> the

> > point of needing meds, and scheduled a psych evaluation for after

> > Christmas. Well, he's done a complete turnaround in20a week!

> >

> > I wish I knew why! He's been taking Native Remedy products for

> > almost 5 weeks now - supposedly results are seen in 3-5 weeks. Is

> > that it? He seemed to finally start to come to terms with his

> > grandpa's recent death - talking about it, writing about it, making

> > posters about him. Is that it? He met with his therapist again

> > earlier this week, and he came out seeming so energized. She

> showed

> > him pictures in a textbook of a brainscan done on a person with OCD

> > before therapy and after learning CBT/ERP - the " after " picture was

> > considered " normal. " Is that it? Or is he just waning?

> >

> > I told him that he couldn't be leaving the classroom so many times

> a

> > day, and that the teacher was going to limit him to 4 passes a day,

> > or else he'd have to make up the missed time after school. He said

> > she had never told him that he couldn't go whenever he wanted, and

> he

> > was just leaving so much because he gets so bored. So now he's

> only

> > leaving 1-3 times a day.

> >

> > He certainly isn't " fine, " and he still is having thoughts about me

> > and my husband dying. He says that it's because Grandpa just died,

> > and it made him realize that we could die at any time also. He

> knows

> > grandpa died because he was very=2

0old, but he's just thinking about

> it

> > more now.

> >

> > Someone here (Barb?) mentioned the Waldorf Nine Year Change. I

> think

> > that's part of what's going on with him. Whatever it is, I'm just

> > grateful for the break right now. I asked his therapist if she

> > thought he should still get the psych evaluation, and she thought

> we

> > should cancel and wait and see how he is. She doesn't feel he's

> bad

> > enough for meds yet. Of course I realize this could all change in

> > the blink of an eye, but for now, we'll hold off.

> >

> > Just had to share my bit of good news with all of you. I love this

> > group so much, you have no idea.

> >

> >

> >

>