Re: regarding a facebook interaction

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Children are "goods" for society. Who is going to take care of him when he is old in a nursing home? -- our children. Who is going to pay taxes to support the items he will need? Our children. In places like italy, they do not have enough children to support the social structures and government because there are too many older people and not enough younger people. They have to now pay people to have babies. See www.pri.org for more info on thisSent via BlackBerry by AT&TSender: nfpprofessionals Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 21:08:32 -0000To: <nfpprofessionals >ReplyTo: nfpprofessionals Subject: regarding a facebook interaction I put up a quote from Dr. Peck on my facebook and a *FRIEND* commented: " To quote a friend: If I pay premiums into an insurance program, I have just as much right to have myprescriptions covered as anyone else in the program. If you're going to deny birth control coverage because you don't want to " pay for my reproductive choices " since all I'm doing is " having sex " , then I don't think it's fair that I have to pay for newborn care under the same policy. After all, why should I have to pay for YOUR sexual choices? You had no right getting pregnant, starting a family, and expecting ME to pay for it. Lets see you get up in front of Congress and fight for your right to procreate.You want to have kids? Then YOU pay for them. NO insurance. PERIOD. Pay for your OWN sexual choices out of your own pocket. " I want to respond, but I'm at a loss. Can anyone help me respond eloquently and with charity to this FB friend?Thank you!Warmly, O'Connor, RN, BSNA Gift: NFP/FA ServicesCertified CCL TCNovice Marquette Instructor

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Okay, here are 2 more responses on my FB page- 1. "  

I would be looking at the *source* of the increase of premiums causing the employer to switch policies. Insurance company. There is no flippin' way that birth control is 20% of the payout for any policy and thus a legitimate cause of a 20% hike in premiums. Insurance companies are businesses and they want to make money. If they feel they can make money pitting GOOD people against each other about who deserves their prescriptions and who doesn't THEY WILL. 

My mom's health insurance premiums went up 37%, and they had to switch to an 80/20 policy. This has really hurt my parents and caused them to suffer and put off medical treatment. And you know what, *neither* policy had " free " birth control. In fact, it was not even a covered medication. 

So I'd really question whether all those women and the BCPs really kept someone from getting their health care...or was it the machinations of a huge corporation with HUGE profits?

2.  We pay people to have babies, every year, it's called the child tax credit!

 Um and last time I checked Italy is a majority Catholic country, the home of his holiness the POPE, so I don't think religious objections to birth control are really a problem there.

 

Children are " goods " for society. Who is going to take care of him when he is old in a nursing home? -- our children. Who is going to pay taxes to support the items he will need? Our children. In places like italy, they do not have enough children to support the social structures and government because there are too many older people and not enough younger people. They have to now pay people to have babies. See www.pri.org for more info on this

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Subject: regarding a facebook interaction

 

I put up a quote from Dr. Peck on my facebook and a *FRIEND* commented: " To quote a friend: If I pay premiums into an insurance program, I have just as much right to have my

prescriptions covered as anyone else in the program. If you're going to deny birth control coverage because you don't want to " pay for my reproductive choices " since all I'm doing is " having sex " , then I don't think it's fair that I have to pay for newborn care under the same policy. After all, why should I have to pay for YOUR sexual choices? You had no right getting pregnant, starting a family, and expecting ME to pay for it.

Lets see you get up in front of Congress and fight for your right to procreate.

You want to have kids? Then YOU pay for them. NO insurance. PERIOD. Pay for your OWN sexual choices out of your own pocket. "

I want to respond, but I'm at a loss. Can anyone help me respond eloquently and with charity to this FB friend?

Thank you!

Warmly,

O'Connor, RN, BSN

A Gift: NFP/FA Services

Certified CCL TC

Novice Marquette Instructor

[Guest guest]

Great response. There is also the simple and fundamental fact that health insurance ought only to pay for interventions that benefit health. This person's confusion is perhaps a bit understandable, since we've made health care, and health insurance, ways of accomplishing all sorts of social goals not at all consonant with health, and now there is all too often widespread confusion about what healthcare is. Is this not a great demonstration -- albeit quite scary -- of the prediction of JPII that when democracy loses its moral core, it is prone to becoming a thinly veiled totalitarianism, a veritable 'tyranny of the majority"?

Sincerely yours,

Dominic M. Pedulla MD, FACC, CNFPMC, ABVM, ACPh

Interventional Cardiologist, Endovascular Diplomate, Varicose Vein Specialist, Noncontraceptive Family Planning Consultant, Family Planning Researcher

Medical Director, The Oklahoma Vein and Endovascular Center (www.noveinok.com, veininfo@...)

Executive Director, The Edith Stein Foundation (www.theedithsteinfoundation.com)

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pedullad@...

regarding a facebook interaction

I put up a quote from Dr. Peck on my facebook and a *FRIEND* commented: "To quote a friend: If I pay premiums into an insurance program, I have just as much right to have my

prescriptions covered as anyone else in the program. If you're going to deny birth control coverage because you don't want to "pay for my reproductive choices" since all I'm doing is "having sex", then I don't think it's fair that I have to pay for newborn care under the same policy. After all, why should I have to pay for YOUR sexual choices? You had no right getting pregnant, starting a family, and expecting ME to pay for it.

Lets see you get up in front of Congress and fight for your right to procreate.

You want to have kids? Then YOU pay for them. NO insurance. PERIOD. Pay for your OWN sexual choices out of your own pocket."

I want to respond, but I'm at a loss. Can anyone help me respond eloquently and with charity to this FB friend?

Thank you!

Warmly,

O'Connor, RN, BSN

A Gift: NFP/FA Services

Certified CCL TC

Novice Marquette Instructor

[Guest guest]

In a free country, there are certain things we all agree on, such as murder is wrong. There are some things we disagree on.Sikhs think one should not cut hair, so their beards flow down to the feet and across the floor.In a free country, we should not force them to shave.Jews think one should not eat pork.In a free country, we should not force them to eat pork. The Catholic church thinks contraception is immoral and they don't want to pay for it or compell it. They are entitled to their opinion.If freedom means anything, that is exactly what it means.Thgey are entitled to their opinion, even though we might not agree with it. Compelling people against their will is charcteristic of dictatorship.Do we indeed have a dictatorship?and if so, who is the purported dictator?To: nfpprofessionals From: pedullad@...Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:03:16 -0400Subject: Re: regarding a facebook interaction

Great response. There is also the simple and fundamental fact that health insurance ought only to pay for interventions that benefit health. This person's confusion is perhaps a bit understandable, since we've made health care, and health insurance, ways of accomplishing all sorts of social goals not at all consonant with health, and now there is all too often widespread confusion about what healthcare is. Is this not a great demonstration -- albeit quite scary -- of the prediction of JPII that when democracy loses its moral core, it is prone to becoming a thinly veiled totalitarianism, a veritable 'tyranny of the majority"?

Sincerely yours,

Dominic M. Pedulla MD, FACC, CNFPMC, ABVM, ACPh

Interventional Cardiologist, Endovascular Diplomate, Varicose Vein Specialist, Noncontraceptive Family Planning Consultant, Family Planning Researcher

Medical Director, The Oklahoma Vein and Endovascular Center (www.noveinok.com, veininfo@...)

Executive Director, The Edith Stein Foundation (www.theedithsteinfoundation.com)

(office)

(cell)

(FAX)

pedullad@...

regarding a facebook interaction

I put up a quote from Dr. Peck on my facebook and a *FRIEND* commented: "To quote a friend: If I pay premiums into an insurance program, I have just as much right to have my

prescriptions covered as anyone else in the program. If you're going to deny birth control coverage because you don't want to "pay for my reproductive choices" since all I'm doing is "having sex", then I don't think it's fair that I have to pay for newborn care under the same policy. After all, why should I have to pay for YOUR sexual choices? You had no right getting pregnant, starting a family, and expecting ME to pay for it.

Lets see you get up in front of Congress and fight for your right to procreate.

You want to have kids? Then YOU pay for them. NO insurance. PERIOD. Pay for your OWN sexual choices out of your own pocket."

I want to respond, but I'm at a loss. Can anyone help me respond eloquently and with charity to this FB friend?

Thank you!

Warmly,

O'Connor, RN, BSN

A Gift: NFP/FA Services

Certified CCL TC

Novice Marquette Instructor