Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Hi - I know a mom on a list of mine that has taken her son to China once for adult stem cell treatment. They saw such wonderful gains that they are going back again this summer for more. Email me off list and I'll give you her email address if you would like to speak with her. LIsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 I would like to talk to her and find out her experience and the clinic. For some reason your email didn't pop up. K@...Thanks. KristyHi - I know a mom on a list of mine that has taken her son to China once for adult stem cell treatment. They saw such wonderful gains that they are going back again this summer for more. Email me off list and I'll give you her email address if you would like to speak with her. LIsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 How does that treatment work exactly? I have never heard of that. Thanks, Jen re: stem cell therapy Hi - I know a mom on a list of mine that has taken her son to China once for adult stem cell treatment. They saw such wonderful gains that they are going back again this summer for more. Email me off list and I'll give you her email address if you would like to speak with her. LIsa No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/852 - Release Date: 6/17/2007 8:23 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 I forwarded your email address to her. They are leaving this Wednesday for China so it might take her a few days to get to you. Her name is Rita Badger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 >Thanks for your opinion. This particular dog did have a meniscal release done at the time of the TTA sx at a different hospital from where I am. The client came to our surgeon for a second opinion 8wks post op because the prior surgeon had placed a cast on the dogs sx leg for 8 wks. That is how I received her as a rehab patient. She was progressing well, then started declining several weeks into the rehab program. This is when our surgeon made a probable dx of a meniscal tear. No arthoscope was done to confirm the dx. Unfortunately, another surgery is not in this dogs future, so I am trying to help the best I can with rehab. Thanks again for your help. > > I am doing SCT, and I don't feel that qa torn mensicus is a place where I would use this. I do plenty of TTAs, and if a meniscal release wasn't done (everyone has an opinion), often the meniscus qwill tear, as long as 1 yr later-I've had two of these, and both 1 yr later-dogs did great up to that point-stifle needs to be looked at and the tear cleaned up, IMO. > > > stem cell therapy > > > Hello, > Is anybody getting cases in for rehab that have gone through stem cell > therapy? What type of cases are they and how has the outcome been? > I have one 4 yr old golden ret. that is 1 yr post TTA sx, with a > menicsal injury post surgery. The meniscal injury was never re- > operated. The dog started stem cell therapy 8 weeks ago and has had 2 > injections into the stifle joint 4 weeks apart. This dog has been NWB > on the affected limb after both injections for 1-3 days post, then > resumes her gait with a slight lameness aprox. 80% weight bearing. > She has not improved on her gait, and is ocassionally worse. I have > not had much experience with stem cell therapy, but the cases I have > heard about have had a great outcome. I am guessing this poor > response may be due to the meniscal injury. Any experience is great, > and suggestions on particular exercises that may help. I just saw the > dog once 2 weeks post 2nd stem cell injection. The treament was warm > compress, massage, gentle PROM (the dog dislikes), and UWTM at greater > trochanter water level for 15 mins. > Any help is appreciated! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I just got these links from Vet-Stem: http://www.vet-stem.com/images/PetOwnerRehab.pdf and http://www.vet-stem.com/images/VetRehab.pdf Anyone have any thoughts on using ultrasound on areas that have recently (say within 2-3 weeks) been treated with stem cell therapy? Regards, Carol Helfer, DVM Portland, OR To: VetRehab From: renee1rvt@...Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:43:02 +0000Subject: Re: stem cell therapy >Thanks for your opinion. This particular dog did have a meniscal release done at the time of the TTA sx at a different hospital from where I am. The client came to our surgeon for a second opinion 8wks post op because the prior surgeon had placed a cast on the dogs sx leg for 8 wks. That is how I received her as a rehab patient. She was progressing well, then started declining several weeks into the rehab program. This is when our surgeon made a probable dx of a meniscal tear. No arthoscope was done to confirm the dx. Unfortunately, another surgery is not in this dogs future, so I am trying to help the best I can with rehab.Thanks again for your help.> > I am doing SCT, and I don't feel that qa torn mensicus is a place where I would use this. I do plenty of TTAs, and if a meniscal release wasn't done (everyone has an opinion), often the meniscus qwill tear, as long as 1 yr later-I've had two of these, and both 1 yr later-dogs did great up to that point-stifle needs to be looked at and the tear cleaned up, IMO.> > > stem cell therapy> > > Hello,> Is anybody getting cases in for rehab that have gone through stem cell > therapy? What type of cases are they and how has the outcome been?> I have one 4 yr old golden ret. that is 1 yr post TTA sx, with a > menicsal injury post surgery. The meniscal injury was never re-> operated. The dog started stem cell therapy 8 weeks ago and has had 2 > injections into the stifle joint 4 weeks apart. This dog has been NWB > on the affected limb after both injections for 1-3 days post, then > resumes her gait with a slight lameness aprox. 80% weight bearing. > She has not improved on her gait, and is ocassionally worse. I have > not had much experience with stem cell therapy, but the cases I have > heard about have had a great outcome. I am guessing this poor > response may be due to the meniscal injury. Any experience is great, > and suggestions on particular exercises that may help. I just saw the > dog once 2 weeks post 2nd stem cell injection. The treament was warm > compress, massage, gentle PROM (the dog dislikes), and UWTM at greater > trochanter water level for 15 mins.> Any help is appreciated!> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 , We have had a few cases with severe end-stage hip OA respond well to intra-articular SCT. Alternatively, we have also had numerous cases respond favorably to intra-articular cortisone. It will be important to find a surgeon or anesthesiologist who is comfortable injecting arthritic hips as they can be a challenge…..fluoroscopic guidance using a spinal needle is typically recommended. The number one cause of failure to respond to intra-articular injections in people is failure of actually injecting into the joint (administered periarticular instead), therefore a false negative response. I assume you have already attempted rehabilitation therapy and conservative medical management? Rehabilitation therapy is still recommended following intra-articular injections. Unfortunately, I have no experience with PST but I am sure others can comment on their success with hip OA. Since PST is a more conservative approach you could attempt this mode of therapy (along with a full rehab program) and if no response consider intra-articular injections. Best Regards, Sherman Sherman O. Canapp Jr., DVM, MS Diplomate ACVS Veterinary Orthopedic & Sports Medicine Group 10270 Baltimore National Pike Ellicott City, MD 21042 Phone: Fax: http://www.vosm.org ________________________________________ > > I have a almost 13yo golden bitch (my own ) that has symptomatic DJD hips. > She had bilat TPO when she was 7mo of age. Pennhip >.9 and having trouble > getting up. She has been extremely active got her MACH and hunts with me > till this past year. My question is anyones experience with SCT vs PST I see > several of you are on the SCT web site. If one is preferred over the other I > will seek out that modality for her. > > thanks karen kowalski RN., DVM cincinnati > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used? ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 DM was on the research list and they were funding 50% of it last year. We tried it IV on one patient. She lived 12 months post-dx and did seem to plateau for a few weeks after each injection, but then deteriorated. Mindy , DVM, CCRT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 I fully understand....the reason for the question is that IV administration for any condition, to me, doesn't make much sense...as compared to intrarticular or other localized delivery of the stem cells to target tissues...SCT isn't approved for either use-I just don't understand why this is being offered in these cases, wiothout any scientific evidence to suppoort it's use-in fact more evidence to the contrary stem cell therapy> > > Hello,> Is anybody getting cases in f or rehab that have gone through stem cell > therapy? What type of cases are they and how has the outcome been?> I have one 4 yr old golden ret. that is 1 yr post TTA sx, with a > menicsal injury post surgery. The meniscal injury was never re-> operated. The dog started stem cell therapy 8 weeks ago and has had 2 > injections into the stifle joint 4 weeks apart. This dog has been NWB > on the affected limb after both injections for 1-3 days post, then > resu mes her gait with a slight lameness aprox. 80% weight bearing. > She has not improved on her gait, and is ocassionally worse. I have > not had much experience with stem cell therapy, but the cases I have > heard about have had a great outcome. I am guessing this poor > response may be due to the meniscal injury. Any experience isgreat, > and suggestions on particular exercises that may help. I just saw the > dog once 2 weeks post 2nd stem cell injection. The treament was warm > compress, massage, gentle PROM (the dog dislikes), and UWTM at greater > trochanter water level for 15 mins.> Any help is appreciated!> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 HI Petra, I have had some gratifying success with hips and elbows in cases of severe OA. Although as others have mentioned, the ROM is not improved the comfort level is significantly improved, and very early on after injections. The dogs have been more anxious to go on walks, and without prolonged soreness. Also better at getting up, going up stairs and getting into the car. Also more sociable, assumed to be less uncomfortable. Still no long term results. Meryl Lessinger VMD, CVA, CCRT burg, VA > > Subject: re: stem cell therapy > To: " vetrehab " <vetrehab > > Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 1:00 PM > Hello Everyone! > This is my first time posting to the list. Thanks in > advance for your help! > I was wondering if anyone can comment on the success rate > of stem cell therapy in hip and elbow dysplasia. > Thanks! > > Petra Ford, P.T., CCRT candidate > Aqua Dog Rehabilitation, LLC > 24C Bartley Road > Flanders, NJ 07836 > www.aquadogrehab.com > > > petraford@... > EarthLink Revolves Around You. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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