Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 Lynn, I'm glad you sent more information. My lay opinion is that unless you have inflammatory bowel disease, I don't think caraggeenan or other natural gums are going to harm you. Your problems lie in a different area, but I still think it is smart to lay off the iron supplements. After all, you are in the normal range for the iron, and it may be rising slowly. If you still need to detoxify from too much uranium, that sounds like an important reason for eating the moss. I still think it is a good idea to keep digestion in mind and fortify your digestive system by eating lots of fermented dairy and fermented vegetables. The questions is, how do you feel? Are you exhausted all the time? Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 22:45:48 -0700 From: " Lynn McGaha " <lmcgaha@...> Subject: Re: iron/caraggeenan/oils Thanks to those of you that replied to my Irish moss/carrageenan/low serum ferritin post. The number of posts in this group is voluminous, and I've been busy reading instead of responding earlier. My serum ferritin was 12 in June and 13 in February, so obviously the ferrous sulfate was ineffective or worse. I've read the normal range is 12 to 150; my doctor certainly thinks I should be much higher. I had ESR tests, and they were slightly elevated. I don't know of any infection or inflammation, although I take Sun Chlorella A tablets, and thus have very dark bowels anyway. I've not had a functioning thyroid for 51 years, since I was 3, and had the misfortunate to be on Synthroid for the last 4 1/2 years, until I learned more about it on the web and sought out a more enlightened physician last June. I'm now back on dessicated thyroid at about double the equivalent dose of Synthroid. So the hypothyroidism could have caused the initial low serum ferritin, but it's been corrected. My saliva test showed I was very, very low in progesterone, and very low in the estrogens, cortisol, DHEA, and testosterone. I'm taking a prescription topical cream with Biest, progesterone, and testosterone, but my skin doesn't seem to be absorbing it. I had a couple iron shots this summer. My hair analysis last spring showed an off the chart high level of uranium, which I understand acts like lead in the body. ( The only exposure I know of is living downwind from Rocky Flats nuclear weapons plant for 5 years). The Irish moss was to help detoxify the uranium. I eat about 3 oz. of grass-fed bison, store-bought chicken or fish each day, about 4 pastured eggs per week, 95% home prepared foods (mostly the NT way), a bunch of supplements including 2000 mg Vit C, and get 6 miles a week on the treadmill plus 3 hours of yoga. After reading comments about the dangers of iron supplements, I have discontinued the ferrous sulfate. I'm now taking dessicated liver pills. I don't like the taste of liver, and can't get organic liver locally anyway. Is the dessicated as good as whole liver? How much does it take to do the job? This is way too long, but apparently I didn't give enough information on my first post. Anybody have any further thoughts? Lynn > Dear Lynn, > I am really not an expert on iron and caraggeenan or on your body, but I'll > try to be brief with my own experience regarding my daughter. > > Her iron was very low, and guess what, she had inflammatory bowel disease. > We learned a lot very fast and one of the things we learned is that all the > iron supplements we tried - including natural and liquid supplements from > the health food store - damaged her stomach and intestines. <snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 Lynn, The carrageenan is a non consumable. Ray Peat has written fairly extensively on this. It is irritable to every bowel whether its noticable or not. And we all know we have and have had plenty of opportunity to irritate our bowels. If you can avoid that irritation by just eliminating a very suspect substance I strongly suggest doing so. Peat discusses that not only is it a serious irritant he also tags it as a potential cancer source (either liver or stomach I don't recall). My vote on this is nay. Sincerely, DMM > Lynn, > I'm glad you sent more information. My lay opinion is that unless you have > inflammatory bowel disease, I don't think caraggeenan or other natural gums > are going to harm you. Your problems lie in a different area, but I still > think it is smart to lay off the iron supplements. After all, you are in > the normal range for the iron, and it may be rising slowly. If you still > need to detoxify from too much uranium, that sounds like an important reason > for eating the moss. > > I still think it is a good idea to keep digestion in mind and fortify your > digestive system by eating lots of fermented dairy and fermented vegetables. > > The questions is, how do you feel? Are you exhausted all the time? > > > > > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 22:45:48 -0700 > From: " Lynn McGaha " <lmcgaha@a...> > Subject: Re: iron/caraggeenan/oils > > Thanks to those of you that replied to my Irish moss/carrageenan/low serum > ferritin post. The number of posts in this group is voluminous, and I've > been busy reading instead of responding earlier. > > My serum ferritin was 12 in June and 13 in February, so obviously the > ferrous sulfate was ineffective or worse. I've read the normal range is 12 > to 150; my doctor certainly thinks I should be much higher. I had ESR > tests, and they were slightly elevated. I don't know of any infection or > inflammation, although I take Sun Chlorella A tablets, and thus have very > dark bowels anyway. I've not had a functioning thyroid for 51 years, since I > was 3, and had the misfortunate to be on Synthroid for the last 4 1/2 years, > until I learned more about it on the web and sought out a more enlightened > physician last June. I'm now back on dessicated thyroid at about double the > equivalent dose of Synthroid. So the hypothyroidism could have caused the > initial low serum ferritin, but it's been corrected. My saliva test showed > I was very, very low in progesterone, and very low in the estrogens, > cortisol, DHEA, and testosterone. I'm taking a prescription topical cream > with Biest, progesterone, and testosterone, but my skin doesn't seem to be > absorbing it. I had a couple iron shots this summer. My hair analysis last > spring showed an off the chart high level of uranium, which I understand > acts like lead in the body. ( The only exposure I know of is living downwind > from Rocky Flats nuclear weapons plant for 5 years). The Irish moss was to > help detoxify the uranium. I eat about 3 oz. of grass-fed bison, > store-bought chicken or fish each day, about 4 pastured eggs per week, 95% > home prepared foods (mostly the NT way), a bunch of supplements including > 2000 mg Vit C, and get 6 miles a week on the treadmill plus 3 hours of yoga. > > After reading comments about the dangers of iron supplements, I have > discontinued the ferrous sulfate. I'm now taking dessicated liver pills. I > don't like the taste of liver, and can't get organic liver locally anyway. > Is the dessicated as good as whole liver? How much does it take to do the > job? > > This is way too long, but apparently I didn't give enough information on my > first post. Anybody have any further thoughts? > > Lynn > > > Dear Lynn, > > I am really not an expert on iron and caraggeenan or on your body, but > I'll > > try to be brief with my own experience regarding my daughter. > > > > Her iron was very low, and guess what, she had inflammatory bowel disease. > > We learned a lot very fast and one of the things we learned is that all > the > > iron supplements we tried - including natural and liquid supplements from > > the health food store - damaged her stomach and intestines. > <snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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