Re: How much therapy before adding meds?

[Guest guest]

THanks BJ. I ended up having a phone appointment because my daughter was really

sick with strep. It went really well. She was thrilled that the meds are

working so quickly and said that she expected to see more improvement. We all

agreed to keep Josiah on his natural neuro transmitter meds since so many of his

transmitters are off besides serotonin.

Since he's been home so much, I've become his obsession. Has this ever happened

to you? It's better than him obsessing over the girls in school, which has been

the case before. I'm using it as an opportunity to teach him boundaries, but it

was a little difficult to get him to school today. It's always an adventure!

LOL!!

Walk by Faith

Tyler

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To:

Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 12:18:22 PM

Subject: Re: How much therapy before adding meds?

Will say a prayer, . Let us know how it goes today. )

BJ

> >

> > Hi Annie. I just want you to know that my thoughts and prayers are

> with you and your son. We've been right where you are within the last

> few weeks. It is so scary and heartbreaking to see them go downhill,

> and yes, it always happens on the weekends!

> >

> > We finally started Josiah on meds last Sunday. He was diagnosed a

> year ago. We tried so hard not to go this route but I have to say

> that this week has been a much needed reprieve for all of us. The OCD

> is not gone, but it is manageable and he is so much calmer. He plays

> with toys again and he can get a grip on his anger when he gets upset.

> >

> > The codeine may have affected your son. Mine is really sensitive to

> drugs and so is his father. My husband cannot take antihistamines

> because he has such horrible mood swings from them.

> >

> > Let me know how you're doing over the next few days. We're all here

> for you. Lots of hugs to you.

> >

> >

> > Walk by Faith

> > Tyler

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: Annie Moreland <amoreland@ ..>

> > To: @ yahoogroups. com

> > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:40:12 PM

> > Subject: RE: Re: How much therapy before adding

meds?

> >

> >

> > Well, I am pretty sure we are going to have to go to meds. He's

> completely

> > out of control tonight with his obsessions. We were going to bring

> him to

> > the Childrens Hospital ER if he did not settle down (called the

> therapist

> > and that was her advice) but I think he is asleep now. Why do things

> always

> > happen on he weekend when the drs office is not open?

> >

> > Does anyone know if codeine can make OCD worse? He had his tonsils

> out on

> > Friday and I am wondering if the codeine is affecting him.

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: @ yahoogroups. com

> > [mailto:ocdandparen ting@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Trabulsy,

> > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 9:07 AM

> > To: @ yahoogroups. com

> > Subject: Re: How much therapy before adding meds?

> >

> > I second what the Barb and say. Finding someone who does CBT /

> ERP is

> > the important thing. What their title is is irrelevant. You will

> know when

> > it is time (if it is time) to start meds. We did therapy for a year

> when my

> > son was first dx (age 3) with several months of totally exploding

> symptoms

> > and unfunctional behavior, but I just couldnt bring mysek to do it

> at 3 year

> > old. Then he improved and was really in remisssion till age 8 (never

> started

> > meds). At 8 relapsed, tried for another year, not able to engage

> with CBT

> > and stopped eating due to poison fears- started meds at that time,

with

> > failure of the first med ( suicidal) prior to any response. Changed

> to 2nd

> > med and started going up with good response but bad side effects.

> But then

> > were able to engage in CBT and get things under better control and

> have been

> > weaning down since then ( he is now 12 and almost off) Good luck.

It is

> > heartbreaking! !!!

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > Hi Annie. I just want you to know that my thoughts and prayers are

> > with you and your son. We've been right where you are within the last

> > few weeks. It is so scary and heartbreaking to see them go downhill,

> > and yes, it always happens on the weekends!

> > >

> > > We finally started Josiah on meds last Sunday. He was diagnosed a

> > year ago. We tried so hard not to go this route but I have to say

> > that this week has been a much needed reprieve for all of us. The OCD

> > is not gone, but it is manageable and he is so much calmer. He plays

> > with toys again and he can get a grip on his anger when he gets upset.

> > >

> > > The codeine may have affected your son. Mine is really sensitive to

> > drugs and so is his father. My husband cannot take antihistamines

> > because he has such horrible mood swings from them.

> > >

> > > Let me know how you're doing over the next few days. We're all here

> > for you. Lots of hugs to you.

> > >

> > >

> > > Walk by Faith

> > > Tyler

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Annie Moreland <amoreland@ ..>

> > > To: @ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:40:12 PM

> > > Subject: RE: Re: How much therapy before adding

> meds?

> > >

> > >

> > > Well, I am pretty sure we are going to have to go to meds. He's

> > completely

> > > out of control tonight with his obsessions. We were going to bring

> > him to

> > > the Childrens Hospital ER if he did not settle down (called the

> > therapist

> > > and that was her advice) but I think he is asleep now. Why do things

> > always

> > > happen on he weekend when the drs office is not open?

> > >

> > > Does anyone know if codeine can make OCD worse? He had his tonsils

> > out on

> > > Friday and I am wondering if the codeine is affecting him.

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > From: @ yahoogroups. com

> > > [mailto:ocdandparen ting@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Trabulsy,

>

> > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 9:07 AM

> > > To: @ yahoogroups. com

> > > Subject: Re: How much therapy before adding meds?

> > >

> > > I second what the Barb and say. Finding someone who does CBT /

> > ERP is

> > > the important thing. What their title is is irrelevant. You will

> > know when

> > > it is time (if it is time) to start meds. We did therapy for a year

> > when my

> > > son was first dx (age 3) with several months of totally exploding

> > symptoms

> > > and unfunctional behavior, but I just couldnt bring mysek to do it

> > at 3 year

> > > old. Then he improved and was really in remisssion till age 8 (never

> > started

> > > meds). At 8 relapsed, tried for another year, not able to engage

> > with CBT

> > > and stopped eating due to poison fears- started meds at that time,

> with

> > > failure of the first med ( suicidal) prior to any response. Changed

> > to 2nd

> > > med and started going up with good response but bad side effects.

> > But then

> > > were able to engage in CBT and get things under better control and

> > have been

> > > weaning down since then ( he is now 12 and almost off) Good luck.

> It is

> > > heartbreaking! !!!

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks. Good idea. Maybe I'll try ERP for that too.

Walk by Faith

Tyler

________________________________

To:

Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 2:24:25 AM

Subject: Re: How much therapy before adding meds?

Oh yes, Josh went through that when he was younger. He also has

rituals where he says he loves me, because he NEEDS to say it. Then

the OCD requires that I answer " I love you " back. So sometimes it can

be OCD prompting it, for him. He literally did an exposure for that,

where he was only allowed to say it once, and I got to choose whether

I wanted to say it or not. In fact, I was encouraged to do it

intermittently. I suspect it is probably normal for a kid with

anxiety issues to be somewhat clingy, because they want to feel

secure. I can tell you to be encouraged. Josh eventually outgrew it.

I think it was when he started to feel more secure, as he matured.

Hang in there.

BJ

> > > >

> > > > Hi Annie. I just want you to know that my thoughts and

prayers are

> > > with you and your son. We've been right where you are within

the last

> > > few weeks. It is so scary and heartbreaking to see them go

downhill,

> > > and yes, it always happens on the weekends!

> > > >

> > > > We finally started Josiah on meds last Sunday. He was diagnosed a

> > > year ago. We tried so hard not to go this route but I have to say

> > > that this week has been a much needed reprieve for all of us.

The OCD

> > > is not gone, but it is manageable and he is so much calmer. He

plays

> > > with toys again and he can get a grip on his anger when he gets

upset.

> > > >

> > > > The codeine may have affected your son. Mine is really

sensitive to

> > > drugs and so is his father. My husband cannot take antihistamines

> > > because he has such horrible mood swings from them.

> > > >

> > > > Let me know how you're doing over the next few days. We're

all here

> > > for you. Lots of hugs to you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Walk by Faith

> > > > Tyler

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > From: Annie Moreland <amoreland@ ..>

> > > > To: @ yahoogroups. com

> > > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:40:12 PM

> > > > Subject: RE: Re: How much therapy before adding

> > meds?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Well, I am pretty sure we are going to have to go to meds. He's

> > > completely

> > > > out of control tonight with his obsessions. We were going to bring

> > > him to

> > > > the Childrens Hospital ER if he did not settle down (called the

> > > therapist

> > > > and that was her advice) but I think he is asleep now. Why do

things

> > > always

> > > > happen on he weekend when the drs office is not open?

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone know if codeine can make OCD worse? He had his tonsils

> > > out on

> > > > Friday and I am wondering if the codeine is affecting him.

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > From: @ yahoogroups. com

> > > > [mailto:ocdandparen ting@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Trabulsy,

> >

> > > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 9:07 AM

> > > > To: @ yahoogroups. com

> > > > Subject: Re: How much therapy before adding

meds?

> > > >

> > > > I second what the Barb and say. Finding someone who does

CBT /

> > > ERP is

> > > > the important thing. What their title is is irrelevant. You will

> > > know when

> > > > it is time (if it is time) to start meds. We did therapy for a

year

> > > when my

> > > > son was first dx (age 3) with several months of totally exploding

> > > symptoms

> > > > and unfunctional behavior, but I just couldnt bring mysek to do it

> > > at 3 year

> > > > old. Then he improved and was really in remisssion till age 8

(never

> > > started

> > > > meds). At 8 relapsed, tried for another year, not able to engage

> > > with CBT

> > > > and stopped eating due to poison fears- started meds at that time,

> > with

> > > > failure of the first med ( suicidal) prior to any response.

Changed

> > > to 2nd

> > > > med and started going up with good response but bad side effects.

> > > But then

> > > > were able to engage in CBT and get things under better control and

> > > have been

> > > > weaning down since then ( he is now 12 and almost off) Good luck.

> > It is

> > > > heartbreaking! !!!

> > > >

> > > >