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I'm right with ya!  It's 4 until 2 on Christmas morning here and I'm coming down

from a night with OCD as well. 

If it is any consolation, my mom and I were having a discussion the other

day and I was trying to explain to her that a behavior of Joei's was OCD and

that is why I was not handling it in the manner she thought I should. It got a

bit heated and I told her she should read some of the books I have recommended

to help her understand.  She flat out told me NO. lol

I was angry for a bit until I realized that she is in a whole lot of fear over

this OCD with her granddaughter and that by reading up on it, she would have to

accept it.  Accepting it is hard for her, she is still very upset and worried

about it. 

I really strive to not let what others feel about this affect me. It is

impossible to understand it unless they have been knee deep in it.  

I think our kids are good at hiding it in certain situations as well.  Joei's

code word when she is getting anxiety or thoughts is " monkeybutt. "   We were at a

family gathering tonite that had my own anxiety on edge and she came to me and

told me " monkeybutt. "   She looked so composed, the only reason I noticed is

because I can see the faint twitch she gets in her nose and hear the little hum

she is developing.  

I actually felt really alone at that time because there was a house full of

people and nobody to understand because they have absolutely no clue!

 

~~Kathy

 Courage is not living without fear.

Courage is being scared to death and doing the right thing anyway.

-Chae

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Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:09:21 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Judy

Hi. It's ten til two on Christmas morning and here I am just trying to hold on

to a little bit of sanity.

i think the whole Christmas thing was just too much for him. He was so overly

excited and all he (my 7 year old with ocd) cared about was getting his latest

obsession, toys. We had to let him open some gifts last night to take the

edge off but I couldn't remember which package had what he really wanted. So he

melted down, threw things and cursed. My mom is here and her response was to

tell me how manipulative he is, as if I didn't know. I don't even want to show

up for Christmas!

What's worse is that my mom will be here until the 29th and I have to deal with

Josiah who, although he is doing better than a month ago, is still a very big

handful and can flip into rage on a dime. He hit me twice the other day. What do

you do when this happens? He was not like this so much until recently. I have

him on a point system for rewards and punishments but when he gets points taken

off for bad behavior he goes into a rage again! Sometimes I just don't know how

I'm going to make it! I think he has ODD on top of the OCD. Is that somewhat

common?

I know I'm rambling, so I'll sign off. Thanks to all of you very supportive

listeners. Dare I even say Merry Christmas after all of my complaining? I do

wish you all the best!

Walk by Faith

Tyler

____________ _________ _________ __

From: c ward <cward_riyahoo (DOT) com>

To: @ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 2:30:29 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Judy

Judy,

Is your daughter still doing well on the gluten free diet?

in TN

From: jchabot <jchabotsnet (DOT) net>

Subject: Re: Re: Experience with abilify and hospitalization

To: @ yahoogroups. com

Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 2:00 PM

Hi Silvia,

My 7 yr old son is on Abilify with Luvox. He has OCD and Bipolar , so we can't

go up on the Luvox unless we also go up on the Abilify. My experience is that if

you use the anti-psychotic alone, it will intensify the OCD. You must have an

SSRI with it.My son has been horrendous lately. He has gained weight and needs a

raise in the Abilify. He rages all day. He screams, spits, hits, etc, etc.He

doesn't listen to anything I say, and punishments and time outs are just not

effective. I'm hoping his doctor will raise the meds again, or he will have to

be hospitalized also. I haven't had him hospitalized yet, but my daughter (12)

has been there twice, and I know how hard it is.

With your son being 17, you really have to consider how dangerous he could

become if he is acting out. I think you did the right thing by hospitalizing

him.

Hang in there! It will get better!

We are all here if you need to talk.

Hugs

Judy

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Thanks for writing! It feels good that there are people who do understand.

I'll be glad when today is over. :) Hang in there.

Walk by Faith

Tyler

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Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 5:07:39 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Judy----

I'm right with ya! It's 4 until 2 on Christmas morning here and I'm coming down

from a night with OCD as well.

If it is any consolation, my mom and I were having a discussion the other day

and I was trying to explain to her that a behavior of Joei's was OCD and that is

why I was not handling it in the manner she thought I should. It got a bit

heated and I told her she should read some of the books I have recommended to

help her understand. She flat out told me NO. lol

I was angry for a bit until I realized that she is in a whole lot of fear over

this OCD with her granddaughter and that by reading up on it, she would have to

accept it. Accepting it is hard for her, she is still very upset and worried

about it.

I really strive to not let what others feel about this affect me. It is

impossible to understand it unless they have been knee deep in it.

I think our kids are good at hiding it in certain situations as well. Joei's

code word when she is getting anxiety or thoughts is " monkeybutt. " We were at

a family gathering tonite that had my own anxiety on edge and she came to me and

told me " monkeybutt. " She looked so composed, the only reason I noticed is

because I can see the faint twitch she gets in her nose and hear the little hum

she is developing.

I actually felt really alone at that time because there was a house full of

people and nobody to understand because they have absolutely no clue!

~~Kathy

Courage is not living without fear.

Courage is being scared to death and doing the right thing anyway.

-Chae

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Tyler <suddenly17yahoo (DOT) com>

To: @ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:09:21 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Judy

Hi. It's ten til two on Christmas morning and here I am just trying to hold on

to a little bit of sanity.

i think the whole Christmas thing was just too much for him. He was so overly

excited and all he (my 7 year old with ocd) cared about was getting his latest

obsession, toys. We had to let him open some gifts last night to take the

edge off but I couldn't remember which package had what he really wanted. So he

melted down, threw things and cursed. My mom is here and her response was to

tell me how manipulative he is, as if I didn't know. I don't even want to show

up for Christmas!

What's worse is that my mom will be here until the 29th and I have to deal with

Josiah who, although he is doing better than a month ago, is still a very big

handful and can flip into rage on a dime. He hit me twice the other day. What do

you do when this happens? He was not like this so much until recently. I have

him on a point system for rewards and punishments but when he gets points taken

off for bad behavior he goes into a rage again! Sometimes I just don't know how

I'm going to make it! I think he has ODD on top of the OCD. Is that somewhat

common?

I know I'm rambling, so I'll sign off. Thanks to all of you very supportive

listeners. Dare I even say Merry Christmas after all of my complaining? I do

wish you all the best!

Walk by Faith

Tyler

____________ _________ _________ __

From: c ward <cward_riyahoo (DOT) com>

To: @ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 2:30:29 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Judy

Judy,

Is your daughter still doing well on the gluten free diet?

in TN

From: jchabot <jchabotsnet (DOT) net>

Subject: Re: Re: Experience with abilify and hospitalization

To: @ yahoogroups. com

Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 2:00 PM

Hi Silvia,

My 7 yr old son is on Abilify with Luvox. He has OCD and Bipolar , so we can't

go up on the Luvox unless we also go up on the Abilify. My experience is that if

you use the anti-psychotic alone, it will intensify the OCD. You must have an

SSRI with it.My son has been horrendous lately. He has gained weight and needs a

raise in the Abilify. He rages all day. He screams, spits, hits, etc, etc.He

doesn't listen to anything I say, and punishments and time outs are just not

effective. I'm hoping his doctor will raise the meds again, or he will have to

be hospitalized also. I haven't had him hospitalized yet, but my daughter (12)

has been there twice, and I know how hard it is.

With your son being 17, you really have to consider how dangerous he could

become if he is acting out. I think you did the right thing by hospitalizing

him.

Hang in there! It will get better!

We are all here if you need to talk.

Hugs

Judy

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My dad is a big part of our lives, and even though he had to deal with my severe

OCD as I was a teen, he still doesn't really accept my daughter's.  I do

believe that it is because he hopes she won't have to go through what I did.

 He was over for Chanukah last night and my son got an iDog from me as a gift.

 My daughter was enjoying playing with the idog that is just so adorable; it

dances and lights up to the music that plays through it from my son's ipod nano.

 Anyway, my dad made a comment that it is a waste of money and alluded to the

whole economic mess in the country and that we shouldn't be spending such money.

 Well, that is exactly the OPPOSITE of what he should say in front of my

daughter.  She has a whole obsession about anyone spending any money on her.

 Just now she brought up what my father said last night and was upset by it.

 He knows she has this issue with getting things, but he just ignores it and

thinks it will go away and that I am making things seem worse for her than they

are.  

OCD is a very isolating illness and it is also isolating for the parents.  That

is what is so great about this group!

Re: Re: Experience with abilify and hospitalization

To: @ yahoogroups. com

Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 2:00 PM

Hi Silvia,

My 7 yr old son is on Abilify with Luvox. He has OCD and Bipolar , so we can't

go up on the Luvox unless we also go up on the Abilify. My experience is that if

you use the anti-psychotic alone, it will intensify the OCD. You must have an

SSRI with it.My son has been horrendous lately. He has gained weight and needs a

raise in the Abilify. He rages all day. He screams, spits, hits, etc, etc.He

doesn't listen to anything I say, and punishments and time outs are just not

effective. I'm hoping his doctor will raise the meds again, or he will have to

be hospitalized also. I haven't had him hospitalized=2

0yet, but my daughter (12) has been there twice, and I know how hard it is.

With your son being 17, you really have to consider how dangerous he could

become if he is acting out. I think you did the right thing by hospitalizing

him.

Hang in there! It will get better!

We are all here if you need to talk.

Hugs

Judy

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