Re: NFP from pulpit..help with wording?

April 25, 2012

Yes great point and I am not saying we should add or combine METHODS together, I am pointing out that perhaps combining multiple fertility indicators could more precisely determine the 6 day fertile window -- a goal we should ALL strive for, right? I mean if your particular method is 99 percent efficacious in avoiding pregnancy, yet the couple has to abstain for 15 days, then that's not good either -- your discontinuation rate is going to be high. In His Peace, rebeccaSent via BlackBerry by AT&TSender: nfpprofessionals Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 15:06:49 -0700To: <nfpprofessionals >ReplyTo: nfpprofessionals Subject: RE: NFP from pulpit..help with wording? And an important distinction, between a methodology, whose effectiveness has been studied, which utilizes a cross check system of multiple signs, and combining methods. I think people need to be cautioned about combining what they might see as the " best " different methods have to offer, and in effect creating their own method, so that they understand they are not necessarily achieving higher effectiveness, and in fact no one could tell them the effectiveness of their unstudied, self devised method. Sheila St. Executive DirectorCalifornia Association of Natural Family Planningwww.canfp.org1-877-33-CANFP From: nfpprofessionals [mailto:nfpprofessionals ] On Behalf Of rbamer2@...Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 2:20 PMTo: nfpprofessionals Subject: Re: NFP from pulpit..help with wording? Efficacious, sorry. The european multicenter study of NFP compared a double check method to a single check and found the double check more effective. Needs to be studied more. But interesting and exciting and will lead to more collaboration...Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Sender: nfpprofessionals Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:20:18 -0700To: <nfpprofessionals >ReplyTo: nfpprofessionals Subject: RE: NFP from pulpit..help with wording? You state that combining these methods increases accuracy? Did you really mean that? Sheila St. Executive DirectorCalifornia Association of Natural Family Planningwww.canfp.org1-877-33-CANFP From: nfpprofessionals [mailto:nfpprofessionals ] On Behalf Of BameSent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:16 PMTo: nfpprofessionals Subject: Re: NFP from pulpit..help with wording? I think the first 4 chapters of Dr. Fehring's Marquette University HEAL Online Course for Medical Professionals provide a great history of NFP and explanation of the different methods available. Perhaps he would let you look at these. Basically there are 5 basic methods: (1) Calendar rhythm, (2) Basal Body Temperature, (3) the Ovulation Method, (4)Symptothermal methods, (5) Hormonal monitoring methods. Then you can use different combinations of the above to get " double checks " for the beginning and end of the fertile window, to increase accuracy. Blessings, Dr. Peck, MD, CCD, AAFP, Marquette NFP InstructorPecks Family Practice, PLC1688 W Granada Blvd, Ste 2AOrmond Beach, FL 32174 fax: cell: To: " nfpprofessionals " <nfpprofessionals > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 3:32 PMSubject: Re: NFP from pulpit..help with wording? Is there a good book/article that explains all the current methods to some extent? To: nfpprofessionals Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:25 PMSubject: Re: NFP from pulpit..help with wording? I totally agree. Couples can make the decision if they are presented with all the options. Do you think most NFP instructors (doctors included) share all the methods? No, probably not. But as time goes by and the couples aren't either doing well with a method or express interest in discontinuing, it would at least be worth a try to give them a list of other methods with brief descriptions so that instead of flying off to sterilization-land they might at least try another NFP method. My husband and I didn't care for the BBT but we love the monitor. To each his own! Vive la difference! Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Sender: nfpprofessionals Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:12:13 -0400To: <nfpprofessionals >ReplyTo: nfpprofessionals Subject: Re: NFP from pulpit..help with wording? ï»¿ , I think we are very close but perhaps differ as to who should make the decision. Granted, doctors are trained to make decisions about medical problems. But when it comes to the decision about whether to use something as cheap and simple as well tested as a basal thermometer, I think that ordinary couples are capable of making that decision if they are given adequate information. I think it is theologically amiss for the Church to align itself too closely with any particular method, and therefore it should be insisting that couples be given sufficient information so that the have the freedom of choice that is appropriate to ordinary folks. The will cannot choose what the intellect has not considered. Kippley NFP from pulpit..help with wording? Good afternoon!I was asked by my pastor to draft an after Mass announcement I would make in person soon. What do you think of this? I think I have 2 minutes. Good morning. As a nurse and women and couples' health advocate I ask for you to consider this: Religious freedom vs. contraceptivesWe have until this August 2012, before Catholic churches and Catholic agencies will be forced in their insurance plans to cover contraceptives free of charge to the insurance member. Do we have to take sides? Women or religion? Of course we know: religious freedom AND true women's health care for sure! Truthfully many are caught in the middle and we think we have to choose because we've taken the Pill for planning purposes and teen or women's health. Consider this perspective: We can support our Church's religious freedom and it's teachings against contraceptive use for family planning . We can support our Bishops and priests AND embrace the Church's teachings by understanding it's practical help through Natural Methods of Fertility Awareness or NFP offered by local practitioners. What would you say if you were told there was another effective, safe method which took care of both: family planning and women's health without use of contraceptives at all? Over 50 couples in the past 2 years right in our very own locale, have turned with success to natural methods in conjunction with medical care for healing. This offers up to 80% success in a totally moral manner where IVF fails. There is no need for fear of religious freedom without the Pill. Pills have high doses of hormones, elevate the risk of blood clots, strokes, heart attacks, weight gain, and has not ever been researched for its use for women's health. Fertility is a healthy state, no need to be reduced to a disease. The miracle of creating new life is stripped of its entire dual meanings : babies and bonding in every marital embrace and turns it into a private " contact " sport. This is what drug free/ device free fertility awareness or natural family planning looks like:99% effective 100% natural, underlying causes of women's physical and mental health revealed and healed without use of the Pill, private, and personalized couple centered learning....You might not have thought much about religious freedom because you haven't lived under oppression.You also might not have thought much about natural family planning or fertility awareness methods for teens, singles and married women for women's health because you thought it was ineffective or too much work or wasn't ever mentioned by your doctor as a viable option. As a wife, mother and currently a Registered Nurse, I've talked to over 150 couples who've taken a full Natural Family planning course and communicate with their doctor to manage all women's reproductive health issues, including depression and irregularities of all kinds and family planning based on their private and personal daily fertility journal. Local, organic and sustainable to women's health and the power to create human life with God.. Natural family planning can help sustain your openness to life and love in your life. These are the 2 ends of our physical expression in our relationships whether married or not.In harmony with nature and God's ways, you have the freedom to trust NFP for healing, for family planning & women's health. This is the freedom the Church invites us too. Your body knows, you can too!I will be available in the Green Room at back of parish hall to offer materials, information for your own research and discuss your comments on this. I welcome them and you! I would very much expect opposing viewpoints. I will listen and want to hear your story. There is still hope and healing.-- Therese , RN, FCP**FertilityCare Practitionerwww.potomacfertility.org " your cycles, your fertility, in your hands " At this point, any woman can get the Pill for free if she has financial issues. Right here at our local Planned Parenthood in Montgomery Village. -- Therese , RN, FCP**FertilityCare Practitionerwww.potomacfertility.org " your cycles, your fertility, in your hands " -- Therese , RN, FCP**FertilityCare Practitionerwww.potomacfertility.org " your cycles, your fertility, in your hands "

April 25, 2012

I would like to second what Fr. Tom said, namely that an announcement or short testimony could be made at the end of the Mass (I don't recall his exact idea). As Dr. Fehring indicated we need qualified laity to explain things. After Mass, in a classroom, expert laity could explain the blessing of fertility and various methods of NFP.

Of course Steve is correct to point out the need to foster an openess to the blessing of children, but many people are not ready for this, and others who are not able to have children for a multiple of reasons, and need to learn about NFP.

As always, Les makes some very good points: Instructors for all the methods are not available everywhere. We need to work together. He writes: " We need more coordination, more collaboration, more prayer. " Â

During the homily the priest can and should speak about the sanctity of marriage, openess to the gift of life, and evil of contraception. I attach an excellent chapter from Fr. McGovern's book " Priest Identity " which would make a good gift to your pastor.

A related but different point, attached is my recent article for the Linacre Quarterly on IVF and NaProTechnology. It looks much more at the results or consequences, but presumes that the IVF is wrong because what it is in itself, not the consequences.

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Yes great point and I am not saying we should add or combine METHODS together, I am pointing out that perhaps combining multiple fertility indicators could more precisely determine the 6 day fertile window -- a goal we should ALL strive for, right? I mean if your particular method is 99 percent efficacious in avoiding pregnancy, yet the couple has to abstain for 15 days, then that's not good either -- your discontinuation rate is going to be high. In His Peace, rebecca