Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 I think journaling is helpful. It can help you analyse what, when and how much you are eating. Maybe once the extra weight is gone it won't be needed. Some of my craving can come from not being present with my food. For instance, I'm eating while doing or thinking about something else. I essentially miss my meal when I do that. I like to wolf down my food. This is a family trait. I found a meditation on line while googling contemplative meditation. This meditation is specifically for eating. If you are interested, you will have to search for it yourself. I was on a different computer so I couldn't bookmark it. Other causes of craving, for me, include trying too hard or trying to change too many things at once. Peace, Jean --- Yianacopolus wrote: > > I was wondering if journaling would really help? > Is it helpful for the past situations or can it be > useful to prevent binging? What about food > journaling does't,t that feed the obsession in your > mind by keeping you focused on food? For me I find > that if I eat what I want I can manage. I eat only > when I am really hungry and stop when I've had > enough. That all works fine. The problem is I have > not lost any weight when I do that. So I start to > think I need to cut back or only eat certain foods. > I tell myself I need to exercise and it seems before > I know it I'm right back in my old cycle of feeling > restricted and I Begin to overeat. It really is very > simple eat only when hungry do some form of exercise > = weight loss. So why can't I stay on track? I > really think I want to lose this weight? So how do i > figure out whats holding me back? > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 I agree that one of the challenges with journaling is that by carrying around the journal with you keeps your mind on food more often then not. Its a tricky proposition. Just seeing the journal brings my mind back to food. I know that I have two different types of hunger, stomach hunger and mouth hunger. They are pretty independent of each other. Stomach hunger is only active when my body needs food, or at least when my stomach is empty and thinks it needs food. Mouth hunger is the more dangerous of the two. It can be active even when my stomach is full; I still want more. Mouth hunger is usually what drives my cravings for specific foods. The trick for me is to identify whetjer it is stomach hunger or mouth hunger and act accordingly. This checking in with my stomach really helps. An interesting note on cravings. Chinese medicine deals with the five tastes of food: sweet, salty, sour, bitter, and pungent (spicy, but not necessarily hot; think horseradish). They think cravings are caused by a lack of one of the flavors. So Chinese medicine recommends every meal contain at least one of all five flavors. Its a little more complicated than it sounds, but the principle of eating wide variety of foods with different tastes, smells, and textures is very sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Hi Journaling will make you more aware of your feelings and of the food you are putting in your mouth. You may think you are eating great but come to find out that you are binging 3 days out of the week. Exercising also helps me withe the emotional eating I tend to do. You commented that you " think " you want to lose the weight. Downloads 's " How do you know if you want to change " worksheet. This is were I started. I know you can do it. Just have to find your strength and want. Mocko journaling I was wondering if journaling would really help? Is it helpful for the past situations or can it be useful to prevent binging? What about food journaling does't,t that feed the obsession in your mind by keeping you focused on food? For me I find that if I eat what I want I can manage. I eat only when I am really hungry and stop when I've had enough. That all works fine. The problem is I have not lost any weight when I do that. So I start to think I need to cut back or only eat certain foods. I tell myself I need to exercise and it seems before I know it I'm right back in my old cycle of feeling restricted and I Begin to overeat. It really is very simple eat only when hungry do some form of exercise = weight loss. So why can't I stay on track? I really think I want to lose this weight? So how do i figure out whats holding me back? ------------ --------- --------- --- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 I really believe " We get what we focus on. " I believe and teach, ~that we must move to what we want not what we do not want...focus focus, focus as in location, location location~ LET IT GO? LKF Randy Hall wrote: I agree that one of the challenges with journaling is that by carrying around the journal with you keeps your mind on food more often then not. Its a tricky proposition. Just seeing the journal brings my mind back to food. I know that I have two different types of hunger, stomach hunger and mouth hunger. They are pretty independent of each other. Stomach hunger is only active when my body needs food, or at least when my stomach is empty and thinks it needs food. Mouth hunger is the more dangerous of the two. It can be active even when my stomach is full; I still want more. Mouth hunger is usually what drives my cravings for specific foods. The trick for me is to identify whetjer it is stomach hunger or mouth hunger and act accordingly. This checking in with my stomach really helps. An interesting note on cravings. Chinese medicine deals with the five tastes of food: sweet, salty, sour, bitter, and pungent (spicy, but not necessarily hot; think horseradish). They think cravings are caused by a lack of one of the flavors. So Chinese medicine recommends every meal contain at least one of all five flavors. Its a little more complicated than it sounds, but the principle of eating wide variety of foods with different tastes, smells, and textures is very sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Yes, , journaling really does help. I can't speak for anyone else, but I am not journaling about food, and have very few references to food items in my journal. What I'm journaling about are the times when I've had a good breakfast/lunch/dinner, but suddenly feel compelled to eat <insert your trigger food here>. I look inside myself to try to figure out if I'm actually hungry (which I'm usually not) or if something else is going on, and if so, what that something is about. So I guess that the bottom line is that I'm journaling about WHY I eat, and not WHAT I eat. To those of you who have already heard me waxing poetic about journaling, I'm starting to feel like the queen of journals. :-) Pat _____ From: insideoutweightloss [mailto:insideoutweightloss ] On Behalf Of Yianacopolus Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 8:08 AM To: insideoutweightloss Subject: journaling I was wondering if journaling would really help? Is it helpful for the past situations or can it be useful to prevent binging? What about food journaling does't,t that feed the obsession in your mind by keeping you focused on food? For me I find that if I eat what I want I can manage. I eat only when I am really hungry and stop when I've had enough. That all works fine. The problem is I have not lost any weight when I do that. So I start to think I need to cut back or only eat certain foods. I tell myself I need to exercise and it seems before I know it I'm right back in my old cycle of feeling restricted and I Begin to overeat. It really is very simple eat only when hungry do some form of exercise = weight loss. So why can't I stay on track? I really think I want to lose this weight? So how do i figure out whats holding me back? --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 I am a journal maniac too. But I write both food and personal. Just to figure out what's really going on with myself and why I did or didn't lose weight. Also I give myself different topics to write about, kind of like in class where the teacher gives you a topic to write on for 5 mins. I try to review the IOWL podcasts and write my own personal review as it applies to me. It is really alot better for me to write something down and get it out; rather than to continually think about it all day. I only have so many brain cells and I don't want to waste them. Plus I know how to type, so that's easier for me because I have been known to misplace stuff (blame it on the brain cell drainers/kids) and not find it for several hours. God bless the person who invented the mechanical pencil and spiral notebook! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 Hi - I do journal and I do journal about the ongoing process of cluing into my hunger, conscious eating and those sorts of things. I journal every morning as part of what I like to call my spiritual practice. I do some reading and some writing and I find it helps me focus my thoughts - mediation would be good too but I have not incorporated that into my practice yet. Full time job and all my many interests and family fill my day so this is a nice calm start. It does really help - I think a food diary is different and I accomplish that too by using the computer. I enter what I plan to eat early in the day - then I go in and modify after each meal or after every 2 meals - I try to write what I'm feeling, how satisfied I was by the meal and then check to see how long the meal lasted. I am trying to eat more 3 times a day without snacks but to consume a balance of foods at each meal and enough food so I just don't feel vague then strong hunger until the next meal. I'm at about a 70% success rate I'd say so far. It is a switch for me from the 5 small meals or the 3 with snacks but it seems to make me smile more - satisfied you know. Now I need to get better with the exercise - I can usually do 3 times a week - say 90% of the weeks, I can often do 4 times a week - say 60% of the time but my goal is 5 times a week this year and I think I've done it once - maybe not. But I'll keep on chugging - each minute is a new beginning - have a great weekend. --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 That is just it - wasn't sure how to access. I was in my ITunes and figured I'd see some attachment symbol to download since that is how I get the podcast. Unsure where to look in order to download. > > > > > > Hi > > > Journaling will make you more aware of your feelings and of the > > food you are putting in your mouth. > > > You may think you are eating great but come to find out that you > > are binging 3 days out of the week. Exercising also helps me withe > > the emotional eating I tend to do. > > > You commented that you " think " you want to lose the weight. > > Downloads 's " How do you know if you want to change " worksheet. > > This is were I started. > > > I know you can do it. Just have to find your strength and want. > > > Mocko > > > journaling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering if journaling would really help? Is it helpful > > for the past situations or can it be useful to prevent binging? What > > about food journaling does't,t that feed the obsession in your mind > > by keeping you focused on food? For me I find that if I eat what I > > want I can manage. I eat only when I am really hungry and stop when > > I've had enough. That all works fine. The problem is I have not lost > > any weight when I do that. So I start to think I need to cut back or > > only eat certain foods. I tell myself I need to exercise and it seems > > before I know it I'm right back in my old cycle of feeling restricted > > and I Begin to overeat. It really is very simple eat only when hungry > > do some form of exercise = weight loss. So why can't I stay on track? > > I really think I want to lose this weight? So how do i figure out > > whats holding me back? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 They are stored in the Yahoo Group, not the Podcast. You can access them at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/insideoutweightloss/files/. You will probably have to log in with your Yahoo ID. > That is just it - wasn't sure how to access. I was in my ITunes and > figured I'd see some attachment symbol to download since that is how > I get the podcast. Unsure where to look in order to download. > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > Journaling will make you more aware of your feelings and of the > > > food you are putting in your mouth. > > > > You may think you are eating great but come to find out that you > > > are binging 3 days out of the week. Exercising also helps me withe > > > the emotional eating I tend to do. > > > > You commented that you " think " you want to lose the weight. > > > Downloads 's " How do you know if you want to change " > worksheet. > > > This is were I started. > > > > I know you can do it. Just have to find your strength and > want. > > > > Mocko > > > > journaling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering if journaling would really help? Is it helpful > > > for the past situations or can it be useful to prevent binging? > What > > > about food journaling does't,t that feed the obsession in your > mind > > > by keeping you focused on food? For me I find that if I eat what I > > > want I can manage. I eat only when I am really hungry and stop > when > > > I've had enough. That all works fine. The problem is I have not > lost > > > any weight when I do that. So I start to think I need to cut back > or > > > only eat certain foods. I tell myself I need to exercise and it > seems > > > before I know it I'm right back in my old cycle of feeling > restricted > > > and I Begin to overeat. It really is very simple eat only when > hungry > > > do some form of exercise = weight loss. So why can't I stay on > track? > > > I really think I want to lose this weight? So how do i figure out > > > whats holding me back? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 on the left there are some links, one of them says " Files " you will find the worksheet in there for " How do you know you want to change " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 THANKS!!! I GOT IT. The Naturally Slim - -- In insideoutweightloss , " Randy Hall " wrote: > > They are stored in the Yahoo Group, not the Podcast. You can access them at > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/insideoutweightloss/files/. > > You will probably have to log in with your Yahoo ID. > > > > > That is just it - wasn't sure how to access. I was in my ITunes and > > figured I'd see some attachment symbol to download since that is how > > I get the podcast. Unsure where to look in order to download. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > Journaling will make you more aware of your feelings and of the > > > > food you are putting in your mouth. > > > > > You may think you are eating great but come to find out that you > > > > are binging 3 days out of the week. Exercising also helps me withe > > > > the emotional eating I tend to do. > > > > > You commented that you " think " you want to lose the weight. > > > > Downloads 's " How do you know if you want to change " > > worksheet. > > > > This is were I started. > > > > > I know you can do it. Just have to find your strength and > > want. > > > > > Mocko > > > > > journaling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering if journaling would really help? Is it helpful > > > > for the past situations or can it be useful to prevent binging? > > What > > > > about food journaling does't,t that feed the obsession in your > > mind > > > > by keeping you focused on food? For me I find that if I eat what I > > > > want I can manage. I eat only when I am really hungry and stop > > when > > > > I've had enough. That all works fine. The problem is I have not > > lost > > > > any weight when I do that. So I start to think I need to cut back > > or > > > > only eat certain foods. I tell myself I need to exercise and it > > seems > > > > before I know it I'm right back in my old cycle of feeling > > restricted > > > > and I Begin to overeat. It really is very simple eat only when > > hungry > > > > do some form of exercise = weight loss. So why can't I stay on > > track? > > > > I really think I want to lose this weight? So how do i figure out > > > > whats holding me back? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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