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Hi ,

You mentioned your son is very aggressive, mine is too. Did the

psychiatrist put him on an anti-psychotic? how was this decision made

and what's the name of the medication? Never heard of this before.

I'm thinking maybe I can ask his doctor about this and it would make a

world of difference if my son mellows down. He has all the family going

crazy! We even had to call the police once and if we do a second time

that could be big trouble for him!!! I don't want this to happen.

Sil

RHelinski@... wrote:

>

>

> Just wanted to let you know you are not alone.? My son (now 13) has

> had issues with ing on himself as well while watching tv etc.? He has

> claimed to be unaware, or just not care.? I have always likened it to

> a preschooler who is playing in the sand box who knows they have to

> go, but is having too much fun to leave and thinks they can hold it

> until they can't.? And then once it's done, oh well....he still

> doesn't want to leave what he's doing. I think maybe he has desentized

> to the feeling over the years?? Or is getting such relief from his OCD

> for the moment that he doesn't want to stop the distraction?? My son

> has had urinary issues on and off since age 6, when he was diagnosed

> with PANDAS. Back then, he seemed to " leak " in his underwear, and

> developed a compulsion to change underwear 10-12 times a day, and

> always thought he was wet even when he wasnt.? Then the nighttime

> wetting kicked in.? We finally linked it to medication - no one had

> told us that ! the meds could actually physically increase urinary

> output. A med change this summer finally changed all the urinary

> issues - to his great relief.? Unfortunately, we had to put him back

> on an anti-psychotic again a month ago when he started getting really

> agressive, and the bedwetting started all over again.. Sigh... Anyway,

> if possible, I would suggest making him responsible for changing the

> bed, washing his clothes, etc. if he chooses to continue this, but all

> in a non- judgemental, calm manner.? That way, if it is within his

> control, he has consequences and he may decide getting up to go is

> easier than the laundry. If it is not within his control, he is just

> simply helping with the aftermath, and it's less cleaning on your part.

>

> Hang in there!!!? - in MI

>

>

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I found this website on-line and noticed the part about PANDAS and

urine.

Here is the website and I copied the paragraph that mentions the urine

below.

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1769

OCD symptoms are generally very similar between children with PANDAS

and other OCD patients (5). However, the onset of symptoms can be

quite different. While OCD is usually first identified in adolescence,

PANDAS patients are always prepubescent. This is likely to be because

of the rarity of GABHS infections in teens and adults. Also, though

OCD usually manifests itself gradually, in PANDAS patients it can set

in overnight. Swedo and colleagues report frequently seeing children

whose parents could recall the day their child became obsessive-

compulsive (2). Though it is not known why, PANDAS patients

overwhelmingly obsess about urination, which is not an especially

dominant obsession in other OCD cases (5). The episodic pattern of

symptoms is unique to PANDAS patients. While other OCD patients can go

through periods where symptoms are slightly more or less exacerbated,

PANDAS patients often experience complete disappearance of symptoms

between episodes (1). It is unknown whether a genetic marker on B

cells of the immune system known as D8/17 is specific to PANDAS

patients, or common in all OCD patients (6). The structure and

function of this marker is currently being identified, and may provide

some clues about the heredity of PANDAS or OCD in general (2).

> Hi ,

> You mentioned your son is very aggressive, mine is too. Did the

> psychiatrist put him on an anti-psychotic? how was this decision made

> and what's the name of the medication? Never heard of this before.

> I'm thinking maybe I can ask his doctor about this and it would make a

> world of difference if my son mellows down. He has all the family

> going

> crazy! We even had to call the police once and if we do a second time

> that could be big trouble for him!!! I don't want this to happen.

>

> Sil

>

> RHelinski@... wrote:

> >

> >

> > Just wanted to let you know you are not alone.? My son (now 13) has

> > had issues with ing on himself as well while watching tv etc.? He

> has

> > claimed to be unaware, or just not care.? I have always likened it

> to

> > a preschooler who is playing in the sand box who knows they have to

> > go, but is having too much fun to leave and thinks they can hold it

> > until they can't.? And then once it's done, oh well....he still

> > doesn't want to leave what he's doing. I think maybe he has

> desentized

> > to the feeling over the years?? Or is getting such relief from his

> OCD

> > for the moment that he doesn't want to stop the distraction?? My son

> > has had urinary issues on and off since age 6, when he was diagnosed

> > with PANDAS. Back then, he seemed to " leak " in his underwear, and

> > developed a compulsion to change underwear 10-12 times a day, and

> > always thought he was wet even when he wasnt.? Then the nighttime

> > wetting kicked in.? We finally linked it to medication - no one had

> > told us that ! the meds could actually physically increase urinary

> > output. A med change this summer finally changed all the urinary

> > issues - to his great relief.? Unfortunately, we had to put him back

> > on an anti-psychotic again a month ago when he started getting

> really

> > agressive, and the bedwetting started all over again.. Sigh...

> Anyway,

> > if possible, I would suggest making him responsible for changing the

> > bed, washing his clothes, etc. if he chooses to continue this, but

> all

> > in a non- judgemental, calm manner.? That way, if it is within his

> > control, he has consequences and he may decide getting up to go is

> > easier than the laundry. If it is not within his control, he is just

> > simply helping with the aftermath, and it's less cleaning on your

> part.

> >

> > Hang in there!!!? - in MI

> >

> >

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