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Hi, Miriam.

At 12:22 10-06-01 +0200, you wrote:

>Hi Coilìn,

>thanks a million for your swift replies to my queries. :)

I just happened to be there just after you posted. Always glad to oblige

with answers to interesting questions.

>I thought that conventional sleeping aids were OTC drugs because in

>www.rbcpress.com/Home/Sleeping_Aids/sleeping_aids.html it is said that

>insomnia can be treated with currently available over-the-counter

>medications as nighttime sleeping aids. These drugs are actually

>antihistamines.

I would consider it unconventional to treat insomnia with an antihistamine.

Sure, many antihistamines have drowsiness as a side-effect, but they also

have other side-effects, and for that reason I don't think this should be

considered conventional treatment.

Here are some opinions on Nytol, diphenhydramine, which is an example of an

antihistamine sometimes used as a sleeping aid:

http://www.epinions.com/well-Medicine-OTC-All-Nytol_Nighttime_Sleep_Aid/tk_~

PR004.1.11

I would call this a form of drug abuse! In view of the side-effects, this

is imho about as clever as drinking a shot of brandy to get to sleep at

night - i.e. to make myself perfectly clear, NOT CLEVER AT ALL. (don't mean

to yell, just to emphasise) If you need something to go to sleep, why not

get a prescription for something highly efficacious and with few side-effects?

>Anyway, I still had doubts and asked for confirmation.

You are always welcome to query anything I write here.

>Maybe

>this term can have different meanings according to the context where it it

>used - or at least this is my impression!

Definitely possible. The context may be some kind of marketing material

that does not have the same sense of ethics or of smart self-prescription

as I do.

>The sentence " if you are using a

>herb such as kava or valerian to treat insomnia, it may induce excessive

>sleepiness when combined with a *conventional sleeping aid *or with any drug

>that can cause drowisiness - a narcotic pain reliever, an OTC antihistamine,

>or even alcohol " , lead me to think that sleeping aid isn'nt a drug.

I think the word " other " should appear in there: " or with any _other_ drug

that can cause drowsiness " . Otherwise, I have no great problem with the

above. In fact, it seems quite ethical to warn of possible side-effects

when the herbal agent is used in combination with conventional hypnotic

agents or with OTC drugs (unconventionally) used as sedatives.

>Do you

>still think it may refer to prescription hypnotic agents? My (temporary)

>Italian translation is very general: *prodotti per favorire il riposo

>notturno*

Since the phrase in English is not orthodox medical terminology, this seems

like a very appropriate invention to describe the concept.

Personally, I would feel ethically obliged to refuse to translate the

phrase " _conventional_ sleeping aids " literally if it were being used to

refer to antihistamines or any other OTC drug I can think of, because I

don't consider it conventional to use OTC drugs as hypnotic agents.

>As far as *vitality boosters* are concerned, my translation is *prodotti

>energizzanti*.

>Other suggestions are still welcome!

Apart from Pierre's suggestions, perhaps " prodotti vivificante " ?

http://www.lagodiseonet.com/mtb/alimentazione.htm

To find more, you can do what I did:

Search in Google for " vitality boosters " . A selection of branded products

appear. Make note of these brand names.

Search in Google for prodotti - or for [brand name] site:it

See what phrases appear to describe the same products in Italian.

HTH

Coilín.

>Have a nice day!

>Miriam

>miriales@...

> Re: EN>it vitality boosters

>

>

>At 10:10 07-06-01 +0200, you wrote:

> >Hi everybody!

> >Are *vitality boosters* simply dietary supplements?

>

>I don't think so. I would distinguish between herbal preparations and

>actual dietary supplements.

>Some of the products listed here seem to include nutrients mixed in with

>the other, herbal ingredients:

>http://www.ds-marketing.freeserve.co.uk/vitality_boosters.htm

>

>But I don't think Guarana could be called a dietary supplement. And there

>are dietary supplements that do not contain any herbs and are not sold as

>vitality boosters.

>

>

> >*conventional sleeping aids* are OTC drugs?

>

>I don't think so. I would guess this refers to hypnotic agents such as the

>benzodiazepines, which must usually be prescribed by a doctor.

>

>Regards

>Coilín.

>

>

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I wrote:

>Apart from Pierre's suggestions, perhaps " prodotti vivificante " ?

>http://www.lagodiseonet.com/mtb/alimentazione.htm

>

>To find more, you can do what I did:

>Search in Google for " vitality boosters " . A selection of branded products

>appear. Make note of these brand names.

>Search in Google for prodotti - or for [brand name] site:it

I meant to write: Search in Google for [brand name] prodotti - or for

[brand name] site:it

While I think of it, you could also go Advanced Search, select Italian as

the only language to search in, then search for [brand name]

>See what phrases appear to describe the same products in Italian.

Best

Coilín.

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