Re: Re: How much therapy before adding meds----- kelly

[Guest guest]

I understand what you mean about obsessed with you.  Joei has the same

compulsion to constantly say I love you, or having to hold my hand or following

me and not lettting me out of her sight, etc.

 

She had a short little break for a few weeks but the last few days it's been in

full force, including her other thoughts.

 

It definately is exhausting at times, that's for sure!

 

Hang in there!

~~Kathy

 

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http://www.myspace.com/clearingachannel

yahoo messenger id  gkathy40@...

Courage is not living without fear.

Courage is being scared to death and doing the right thing anyway.

-Chae

Subject: Re: Re: How much therapy before adding meds?

To:

Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 1:39 PM

Sorry for being too vague. I meant obsessed with me. Clingy, yes, but also just

having to touch me constantly and having to say " I love you " repeatedly. I

suppose of all the obsessions he could have, it's not that bad, but it can still

wear me out!

As far as the neuro transmitter meds, our doctor tests his neuro transmitters

and sends the test to a company called Neuro Science who in turn puts together

nutrients to address Josiah neuro transmittter irregularities. We've had a lot

of success, but as you know, had to add Prozac recently. The Dr. feels that

according to the tests, Josiah's body was making enough serotonin, but another

brain chemical was " off " and causing his body to use it way too fast. The prozac

is helping his body use it more slowly. We are looking into what we can do

naturally to support this chemical so that when he gets off the Prozac someday,

he will be more balanced. I'll let you know how it goes when we get to that

point. Thanks for asking.

Walk by Faith

Tyler

____________ _________ _________ __

From: svdbyhislove <BJClosnercomcast (DOT) net>

To: @ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 1:43:32 PM

Subject: Re: How much therapy before adding meds?

> > >

> > > Hi Annie. I just want you to know that my thoughts and prayers are

> > with you and your son. We've been right where you are within the last

> > few weeks. It is so scary and heartbreaking to see them go downhill,

> > and yes, it always happens on the weekends!

> > >

> > > We finally started Josiah on meds last Sunday. He was diagnosed a

> > year ago. We tried so hard not to go this route but I have to say

> > that this week has been a much needed reprieve for all of us. The OCD

> > is not gone, but it is manageable and he is so much calmer. He plays

> > with toys again and he can get a grip on his anger when he gets upset.

> > >

> > > The codeine may have affected your son. Mine is really sensitive to

> > drugs and so is his father. My husband cannot take antihistamines

> > because he has such horrible mood swings from them.

> > >

> > > Let me know how you're doing over the next few days. We're all here

> > for you. Lots of hugs to you.

> > >

> > >

> > > Walk by Faith

> > > Tyler

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Annie Moreland <amoreland@ ..>

> > > To: @ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:40:12 PM

> > > Subject: RE: Re: How much therapy before adding

> meds?

> > >

> > >

> > > Well, I am pretty sure we are going to have to go to meds. He's

> > completely

> > > out of control tonight with his obsessions. We were going to bring

> > him to

> > > the Childrens Hospital ER if he did not settle down (called the

> > therapist

> > > and that was her advice) but I think he is asleep now. Why do things

> > always

> > > happen on he weekend when the drs office is not open?

> > >

> > > Does anyone know if codeine can make OCD worse? He had his tonsils

> > out on

> > > Friday and I am wondering if the codeine is affecting him.

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > From: @ yahoogroups. com

> > > [mailto:ocdandparen ting@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Trabulsy,

>

> > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 9:07 AM

> > > To: @ yahoogroups. com

> > > Subject: Re: How much therapy before adding meds?

> > >

> > > I second what the Barb and say. Finding someone who does CBT /

> > ERP is

> > > the important thing. What their title is is irrelevant. You will

> > know when

> > > it is time (if it is time) to start meds. We did therapy for a year

> > when my

> > > son was first dx (age 3) with several months of totally exploding

> > symptoms

> > > and unfunctional behavior, but I just couldnt bring mysek to do it

> > at 3 year

> > > old. Then he improved and was really in remisssion till age 8 (never

> > started

> > > meds). At 8 relapsed, tried for another year, not able to engage

> > with CBT

> > > and stopped eating due to poison fears- started meds at that time,

> with

> > > failure of the first med ( suicidal) prior to any response. Changed

> > to 2nd

> > > med and started going up with good response but bad side effects.

> > But then

> > > were able to engage in CBT and get things under better control and

> > have been

> > > weaning down since then ( he is now 12 and almost off) Good luck.

> It is

> > > heartbreaking! !!!

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I'm really glad you understand. It's not something easy to explain. We're

really trying to teach him about personal space but it seems so hard for him to

deny his compulsions. Hopefully in time he'll get better.

Walk by Faith

Tyler

________________________________

To:

Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 6:30:51 PM

Subject: Re: Re: How much therapy before adding meds-----

kelly

I understand what you mean about obsessed with you. Joei has the same

compulsion to constantly say I love you, or having to hold my hand or following

me and not lettting me out of her sight, etc.

She had a short little break for a few weeks but the last few days it's been in

full force, including her other thoughts.

It definately is exhausting at times, that's for sure!

Hang in there!

~~Kathy

gkathy40sbcglobal (DOT) net

http://www.myspace. com/clearingacha nnel

yahoo messenger id gkathy40yahoo (DOT) com

Courage is not living without fear.

Courage is being scared to death and doing the right thing anyway.

-Chae

From: Tyler <suddenly17yahoo (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Re: How much therapy before adding meds?

To: @ yahoogroups. com

Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 1:39 PM

Sorry for being too vague. I meant obsessed with me. Clingy, yes, but also just

having to touch me constantly and having to say " I love you " repeatedly. I

suppose of all the obsessions he could have, it's not that bad, but it can still

wear me out!

As far as the neuro transmitter meds, our doctor tests his neuro transmitters

and sends the test to a company called Neuro Science who in turn puts together

nutrients to address Josiah neuro transmittter irregularities. We've had a lot

of success, but as you know, had to add Prozac recently. The Dr. feels that

according to the tests, Josiah's body was making enough serotonin, but another

brain chemical was " off " and causing his body to use it way too fast. The prozac

is helping his body use it more slowly. We are looking into what we can do

naturally to support this chemical so that when he gets off the Prozac someday,

he will be more balanced. I'll let you know how it goes when we get to that

point. Thanks for asking.

Walk by Faith

Tyler

____________ _________ _________ __

From: svdbyhislove <BJClosnercomcast (DOT) net>

To: @ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 1:43:32 PM

Subject: Re: How much therapy before adding meds?

> > >

> > > Hi Annie. I just want you to know that my thoughts and prayers are

> > with you and your son. We've been right where you are within the last

> > few weeks. It is so scary and heartbreaking to see them go downhill,

> > and yes, it always happens on the weekends!

> > >

> > > We finally started Josiah on meds last Sunday. He was diagnosed a

> > year ago. We tried so hard not to go this route but I have to say

> > that this week has been a much needed reprieve for all of us. The OCD

> > is not gone, but it is manageable and he is so much calmer. He plays

> > with toys again and he can get a grip on his anger when he gets upset.

> > >

> > > The codeine may have affected your son. Mine is really sensitive to

> > drugs and so is his father. My husband cannot take antihistamines

> > because he has such horrible mood swings from them.

> > >

> > > Let me know how you're doing over the next few days. We're all here

> > for you. Lots of hugs to you.

> > >

> > >

> > > Walk by Faith

> > > Tyler

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Annie Moreland <amoreland@ ..>

> > > To: @ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:40:12 PM

> > > Subject: RE: Re: How much therapy before adding

> meds?

> > >

> > >

> > > Well, I am pretty sure we are going to have to go to meds. He's

> > completely

> > > out of control tonight with his obsessions. We were going to bring

> > him to

> > > the Childrens Hospital ER if he did not settle down (called the

> > therapist

> > > and that was her advice) but I think he is asleep now. Why do things

> > always

> > > happen on he weekend when the drs office is not open?

> > >

> > > Does anyone know if codeine can make OCD worse? He had his tonsils

> > out on

> > > Friday and I am wondering if the codeine is affecting him.

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > From: @ yahoogroups. com

> > > [mailto:ocdandparen ting@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Trabulsy,

>

> > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 9:07 AM

> > > To: @ yahoogroups. com

> > > Subject: Re: How much therapy before adding meds?

> > >

> > > I second what the Barb and say. Finding someone who does CBT /

> > ERP is

> > > the important thing. What their title is is irrelevant. You will

> > know when

> > > it is time (if it is time) to start meds. We did therapy for a year

> > when my

> > > son was first dx (age 3) with several months of totally exploding

> > symptoms

> > > and unfunctional behavior, but I just couldnt bring mysek to do it

> > at 3 year

> > > old. Then he improved and was really in remisssion till age 8 (never

> > started

> > > meds). At 8 relapsed, tried for another year, not able to engage

> > with CBT

> > > and stopped eating due to poison fears- started meds at that time,

> with

> > > failure of the first med ( suicidal) prior to any response. Changed

> > to 2nd

> > > med and started going up with good response but bad side effects.

> > But then

> > > were able to engage in CBT and get things under better control and

> > have been

> > > weaning down since then ( he is now 12 and almost off) Good luck.

> It is

> > > heartbreaking! !!!

> > >

> > >