Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Tara, Given the chronicity of this condition...the immune response is weak. I would suggest a wide spread of probiotic use. I would discourage the use of probiotic extracts, but would recommend a high CFU or Colony Forming Unit count to boost the immune response. Most treat UTI with antibiotics which will kill both good and bad bugs....re-invest with good bugs ASAP. Mackie www.equinechallengesupplements.com www.k9challengesupplements.com www.gotmorgans.com Are there any supplements that people are using to help reduce the frequency/severity of lower urinary tract infections for either their geriatric clients or neurological cases that are prone to chronic urinary tract infections? Thanks in advance Tara , DVM, CCRT Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 CranVet from onlynaturalpet.com does wonders - we have used it with 100% success thus far. Maja Wichtowski, RVT, CCRT Chronic UTI's Are there any supplements that people are using to help reduce the frequency/severity of lower urinary tract infections for either their geriatric clients or neurological cases that are prone to chronic urinary tract infections? Thanks in advance Tara , DVM, CCRT Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 I have had great success with just using Vit C, assuming there are no concerns for oxalate stones. I have also heard of wonderful things with the Cran Vet already mentioned. D-mannose is another I know although have not had the occasion to use, but is very helpful in chronic E-coli. Jo Byron, DVM Cleveland OHtararedwards wrote: Are there any supplements that people are using to help reduce the frequency/severity of lower urinary tract infections for either their geriatric clients or neurological cases that are prone to chronic urinary tract infections? Thanks in advance Tara , DVM, CCRT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 First of all, you need to know what the organism is. Acidfying the urine in dogs has been shown to make no difference in the control of bacteria. Pulsing antbiotics may help, as will frequent emptying. Acidification can predispose to calcium oxalate stones. I'd approach these medically, not with cranvet. Chronic UTI's Are there any supplements that people are using to help reduce the frequency/severity of lower urinary tract infections for either their geriatric clients or neurological cases that are prone to chronic urinary tract infections? Thanks in advance Tara , DVM, CCRT Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 I have also had success with this PRN-brand product (although I don't order it from onlynaturalpet.com). Alternatively, regular cranberries (ground up in a food processor; whole ones come out whole!) work if the dog's palate permits. Our holistic Vet has also prescribed "Red Front Door" to be given at the first signs of an UTI to successfully stop progression. In my late dog who battled UTI's for years, the other successful change we implemented was a home-cooked diet. She went from 2 years of constant infections to never having another one. To: VetRehab From: tsavo13@...Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:30:34 -0400Subject: Re: Chronic UTI's CranVet from onlynaturalpet.com does wonders - we have used it with 100% success thus far. Maja Wichtowski, RVT, CCRT Chronic UTI's Are there any supplements that people are using to help reduce the frequency/severity of lower urinary tract infections for either their geriatric clients or neurological cases that are prone to chronic urinary tract infections? Thanks in advance Tara , DVM, CCRT Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 I UA and culture all my "downer dogs" by US guided cystocentesis (also looking for crystalluria) ON ADMISSION irrespective if there is or is not a history of UTI. This is part of our initial routine admission work-up for the "downer dog". I frequently find UTI in patients with no primary complaint of UTI by the owner.I have had excellent and safe results with long term nitrofurantoin (an antibacterial which we have compounded in liquid or capsule form by a compounding pharmacy), if of course C & S dictates sensitivity to this product and the patient is free of renal impairment. As we are expressing the bladder in these patients 2 to 3 times daily, we also check UA's on a weekly basis or as suspected from our excellent nursing staff.Antibiotics are used cautiously and judiciously.I could not agree more with . Indiscriminate use of products without good, objective information on the individual patient is probably not advisable.First of all, you need to know what the organism is. Acidfying the urine in dogs has been shown to make no difference in the control of bacteria. Pulsing antbiotics may help, as will frequent emptying. Acidification can predispose to calcium oxalate stones.I'd approach these medically, not with cranvet. Chronic UTI'sAre there any supplements that people are using to help reduce the frequency/severity of lower urinary tract infections for either their geriatric clients or neurological cases that are prone to chronic urinary tract infections? Thanks in advance Tara , DVM, CCRTPlanning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. ph A. DeLucia DVM, CCRPValley Veterinary Rehabilitation/Valley Animal Hospital1171 Valley RoadClifton, New Jersey 07013 ext. 103Veterinary MRI and RT Center of New Jersey1071 ison AvenueClifton, New Jersey 07011dogedoc@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 I've used D-mannose and cranberry for my own doxies with IVDD both the cranberry NS (500mg) 1/2 capsule 2x day and the Utract (d-Mannose) 50 grams 1 scoop 2 x day are by Pure Encapsulations. You can see their entire line at http://www.purecaps .com/ the d-mannose at: http://www.purecaps .com/itemdy00. asp?T1=DMP1 cranberry at: http://www.purecaps .com/itemdy00. asp?T1=CN1 Patti Triola, PT, CCRT Dogs In Motion Co-moderator VetRehabJo wrote: I have had great success with just using Vit C, assuming there are no concerns for oxalate stones. I have also heard of wonderful things with the Cran Vet already mentioned. D-mannose is another I know although have not had the occasion to use, but is very helpful in chronic E-coli. Jo Byron, DVM Cleveland OHtararedwards <tararedwardshotmail> wrote: Are there any supplements that people are using to help reduce the frequency/severity of lower urinary tract infections for either their geriatric clients or neurological cases that are prone to chronic urinary tract infections? Thanks in advance Tara , DVM, CCRT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Thanks for all the input on UTI's. We are treating these cases medically by routinely culturing and using antibiotics judiciously. I just felt that maybe there was a way to not necessarily "treat" the infections with supplements but rather "support" a healthy bladder environment. In regards to cranberry supplements - I was under the impression that they did not significantly contribute to lowering the pH but instead acted at the mucosal level and reduced the adherence capabilities of e.coli? Thanks again, TaraTara , DVMCertified Canine Rehabilitation Therapist 404 Veterinary Hospital Referral Centre1210 Journey's End CircleNewmarket Ontariowww.veter.ca To: VetRehab From: MKHartwig1@...Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:52:24 -0400Subject: Re: Chronic UTI's Tara, Given the chronicity of this condition...the immune response is weak. I would suggest a wide spread of probiotic use. I would discourage the use of probiotic extracts, but would recommend a high CFU or Colony Forming Unit count to boost the immune response. Most treat UTI with antibiotics which will kill both good and bad bugs....re-invest with good bugs ASAP. Mackie www.equinechallengesupplements.com www.k9challengesupplements.com www.gotmorgans.com In a message dated 4/2/2008 6:26:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tararedwardshotmail writes: Are there any supplements that people are using to help reduce the frequency/severity of lower urinary tract infections for either their geriatric clients or neurological cases that are prone to chronic urinary tract infections? Thanks in advance Tara , DVM, CCRT Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. Sign in today. When you sign in to Windows Live Messenger you could win $1000 a day until May 12th. Learn more at SignInAndWIN.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 In my human practice the following are the consistent " winners " : D-Mannose: a sugar that appears to make the bacteria less sticky - as I understand it - it creates a mechanical disadvantage to getting a foothold as it were. Widely available in our area and online. Cranberry extracts/complexes: generally well tolerated in capsule form, some folks can get over-done on taking the cranberry juice and over-acidify the system. Of course if on antibiotics, may need to address the probiotic route as well. I have one gal who swears by using a few drops of GSE (grapefruit seed extract) as a natural antibiotic but its only an n of 1. Of course, evaluating the bladder/urogenital system for function and integrity is part of the routine. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.